Let's stop clamoring over head coaches because it's pointless

[jazzcat22]

They look past them because they know they have no real power in Jerry's teams.

Yesterday before the game the sideline reporters were talking about how Stephan Jones was saying who was playing and who wasn't gonna.

The player personal guy on NO other team does this kinda *****

Uh no, Stephen was saying who the coaches told he and Jerry that were not playing. They did not make those choices, the coaches did.

 

[zrinkill]

Uh no, Stephen was saying who the coaches told he and Jerry that were not playing. They did not make those choices, the coaches did.

I'm sorry Jazz ...... but I have been watching this team too long to believe that.

But I hope you are right.

 

[jazzcat22]

This team is in deep DO-DO! There was no fire in our players, none at all! Denver's BIG BOY team beat-up our starters on Thursday and the backups mopped up on our backups last night. Last night's game said a lot about what's been going on in the Boy's training camp with over 100 yds in penalties, it looked like a sh^t show out there.

In a controlled glorified walk through, well, ok. then.
Actually they said Dak and Ceedee looked pretty good against Denver.

 

[Bobhaze]

It’s certainly a crapshoot that ole’ Jerry is going to make a competent decision when that time comes.

True. Because Jerry hires head coaches based on who makes him feel comfortable being a meddler, not who gives us the best chance to win.

Jerry doesn’t think like a healthy GM who is obsessed with winning first and foremost- like his job depends on it. Yes he wants to win but it’s not win at all costs. His brain is too cluttered with getting his almighty credit, how the stayjum looks in the sunlight, how much money he’s making, and dealing with the space in his brain Jimmy Johnson occupies rent free.

 

[john van brocklin]

Players used to fear and look up to their coaches.

Now, most millenial players just look past them. They have zero respect for authority and listen to nobody about anything.

The days of Parcells and Jimmy are over. The breed will die altogether in the NFL when Belichick retires.

Going forward, it's about hiring cool baby sitters to coach, while dumbing down schemes to be as simple as possible.

Games look chaotic, undisciplined, and sloppy. It's about trying to manage your crappy team better than the crappy team you're playing. It's one of many reasons offenses typically move the ball at will.

Coaches are grasping at straws at how to manage these kids, but they stay quiet about it because the paycheck is soooo good.

I would add the HC needs to be respected as the top Banana.
We all know who the head Banana is in Dallas.

 

[RomoLover94]

Players used to fear and look up to their coaches.

Now, most millenial players just look past them. They have zero respect for authority and listen to nobody about anything.

The days of Parcells and Jimmy are over. The breed will die altogether in the NFL when Belichick retires.

Going forward, it's about hiring cool baby sitters to coach, while dumbing down schemes to be as simple as possible.

Games look chaotic, undisciplined, and sloppy. It's about trying to manage your crappy team better than the crappy team you're playing. It's one of many reasons offenses typically move the ball at will.

Coaches are grasping at straws at how to manage these kids, but they stay quiet about it because the paycheck is soooo good.

Feels like this is a hot take. The game is evolving to be more offensive and guys like Sean McVay seem to have a pretty good grasp on their players, despite being younger than many. You can be a players coach and still have command of the team.

 

[erod]

Feels like this is a hot take. The game is evolving to be more offensive and guys like Sean McVay seem to have a pretty good grasp on their players, despite being younger than many. You can be a players coach and still have command of the team.

So what happened to McVay in 2019 and 2020? Stafford made the difference. Not McVay.

The game is simplifying and it's sloppy. The rules help the offenses along as needed.

 

[Diehardblues]

HC this era need to be team builders. Their instincts can make the difference. Like McVey rolling the dice risking his job for Stafford.

 

[Diehardblues]

In a pass happy era it’s all about having one of the best QB’s or one the generational defenses . There’s not much middle ground.

 

[CouchCoach]

Back in the day of Lombardi, Landry, Grant and Noll, they were the dog and the players were the tail with coaches having the ultimate hammer, starting positions and playing time because that related directly to paychecks.

If a player committed a penalty or mistake, he came out of the game for at least a play as a statement. When was the last time you saw that? They left Gregory in while he was laughing.

There is little depth and the coaches and players all know it. They tried benching Williams and McGovern was not as good so they had to put Williams back in. Think any HC is going to make himself vulnerable to make a point?

The average lifespan of a HC is equal to players now but the difference is most owners will pay their QB more than their entire coaching staff, so who are they going to keep happy?

It's a money grab. Get the HC contract, wait to get fired, get your go away money and get another coordinator's gig. The turnover in HC's in the NFL is embarrassing to the game.

Those 4 HC's I mentioned in that first sentence would struggle in today's NFL. Just like Johnson and Parcells did. No HC hated penalties more than Parcells and he couldn't fix it.

The players became the dog and it is only going to get worse from here on out. Coaches like Petrino, Saban, Spurrier and Kelly realized what they did would not work in the NFL.

The biggest mistake the owners have made was when the cap began to expand, they allowed salaries to expand instead of rosters. 220M spread among 75 is much better than 53 because these agents are aiming for %'s of the cap for their players which is why QB salaries doubled in just 10 years.

 

[RustyBourneHorse]

if jerry fires mccarthy.....folks ain't gonna like his replacement any better.
jerry is still in place...making the next hire.

Yup, the second that coach loses a game, it'll be time to fire him on this board. Coaches are supposed to go 17-0.

 

[Diehardblues]

Back in the day of Lombardi, Landry, Grant and Noll, they were the dog and the players were the tail with coaches having the ultimate hammer, starting positions and playing time because that related directly to paychecks.

If a player committed a penalty or mistake, he came out of the game for at least a play as a statement. When was the last time you saw that? They left Gregory in while he was laughing.

There is little depth and the coaches and players all know it. They tried benching Williams and McGovern was not as good so they had to put Williams back in. Think any HC is going to make himself vulnerable to make a point?

The average lifespan of a HC is equal to players now but the difference is most owners will pay their QB more than their entire coaching staff, so who are they going to keep happy?

It's a money grab. Get the HC contract, wait to get fired, get your go away money and get another coordinator's gig. The turnover in HC's in the NFL is embarrassing to the game.

Those 4 HC's I mentioned in that first sentence would struggle in today's NFL. Just like Johnson and Parcells did. No HC hated penalties more than Parcells and he couldn't fix it.

The players became the dog and it is only going to get worse from here on out. Coaches like Petrino, Saban, Spurrier and Kelly realized what they did would not work in the NFL.

The biggest mistake the owners have made was when the cap began to expand, they allowed salaries to expand instead of rosters. 220M spread among 75 is much better than 53 because these agents are aiming for %'s of the cap for their players which is why QB salaries doubled in just 10 years.

Yep, we are quickly approaching half billion contracts for top QB’s.

While about 80% of the players are at minimum wage less than a million a year. Try to manage that.

But yea, the NFL when it comes to coaches being second fiddle is approaching life in NBA and MLB.

 

[Diehardblues]

Average Salary of an NFL Player in 2022 is $2.8 Million per year. Their salary ranges from the maximum value of $45,000,000 (45 million) and the minimum value of $610,000 per year.

The median NFL player’s salary is $860,000 annually. Some of the rookies earn a minimum salary of $610,000 in their first year.

https://careerexplorerguide.com/nfl-player-salary/

I’m not sure how you manage a handful of players making tens to hundreds of millions while most are only making hundreds of thousands.

 

[ghst187]

Players used to fear and look up to their coaches.

Now, most millenial players just look past them. They have zero respect for authority and listen to nobody about anything.

The days of Parcells and Jimmy are over. The breed will die altogether in the NFL when Belichick retires.

Going forward, it's about hiring cool baby sitters to coach, while dumbing down schemes to be as simple as possible.

Games look chaotic, undisciplined, and sloppy. It's about trying to manage your crappy team better than the crappy team you're playing. It's one of many reasons offenses typically move the ball at will.

Coaches are grasping at straws at how to manage these kids, but they stay quiet about it because the paycheck is soooo good.

good points….this is really the case across all sectors of the workforce

 

[FVSTONE]

In a controlled glorified walk through, well, ok. then.
Actually they said Dak and Ceedee looked pretty good against Denver.

Who's they, the guys who are signing the checks.............ha-haaaaaa!

 

[RJ_MacReady]

What's missing is the Asthma Field.

Hey @AsthmaField. Get in there and fix our team!

 

[coogrfan]

Players used to fear and look up to their coaches.

Now, most millenial players just look past them. They have zero respect for authority and listen to nobody about anything.

The days of Parcells and Jimmy are over. The breed will die altogether in the NFL when Belichick retires.

Going forward, it's about hiring cool baby sitters to coach, while dumbing down schemes to be as simple as possible.

Games look chaotic, undisciplined, and sloppy. It's about trying to manage your crappy team better than the crappy team you're playing. It's one of many reasons offenses typically move the ball at will.

Coaches are grasping at straws at how to manage these kids, but they stay quiet about it because the paycheck is soooo good.

 

[IceBowler]

What's missing is the Asthma Field.

You can be sure the Players Union has got the hammer down on anything resembling that ..

 

[GINeric]

Players used to fear and look up to their coaches.

Now, most millenial players just look past them. They have zero respect for authority and listen to nobody about anything.

The days of Parcells and Jimmy are over. The breed will die altogether in the NFL when Belichick retires.

Going forward, it's about hiring cool baby sitters to coach, while dumbing down schemes to be as simple as possible.

Games look chaotic, undisciplined, and sloppy. It's about trying to manage your crappy team better than the crappy team you're playing. It's one of many reasons offenses typically move the ball at will.

Coaches are grasping at straws at how to manage these kids, but they stay quiet about it because the paycheck is soooo good.

Maybe the NFL owners should start hiring high level politicians and rappers as Head Coaches....

Players used to fear and look up to their coaches.

Now, most millenial players just look past them. They have zero respect for authority and listen to nobody about anything.

The days of Parcells and Jimmy are over. The breed will die altogether in the NFL when Belichick retires.

Going forward, it's about hiring cool baby sitters to coach, while dumbing down schemes to be as simple as possible.

Games look chaotic, undisciplined, and sloppy. It's about trying to manage your crappy team better than the crappy team you're playing. It's one of many reasons offenses typically move the ball at will.

Coaches are grasping at straws at how to manage these kids, but they stay quiet about it because the paycheck is soooo good.

Maybe NFL owners should higher high level politicians and rappers as Head Coaches. They lie and people STILL believe in them enough to get violently physical and climb walls for them.

 

[CowboyFrog]

The death of "Position Battles" because of the cap is literally killing HC input....Like has been said when they are clearly your only option...there really is no option even if they continue to do dumb things. I certainley doesn't help a already bad HC position as far as this franchise goes...because yeah the HC is 3rd fiddle at best.