Lets talk about the first interception

[TonyS]

Other than Dez pulling out a magic wand and making the safety disappear the safety was going to pick the ball off. The Romantics on this board will see no wrong in Romo on the throw but there is no way it every should have been thrown. That and all of the picks were on Romo. And why isn't there a thread on how Romo sucked in the beginning of the game?

Cajun, I greatly respect your opinion on the boards and I'm married to a Cajun Queen, but I have to go with Aikman on this one and after watching the replay. For this specific play, it clearly shows Dez rounding the route off and not getting inside soon enough. He does that and the worst that probably happens is a broken up pass, not an int. Dangerous pass, no doubt, but it was on Dez.

 

[JohnsKey19]

Dez ran a poor route. But the S was in a better position to make a play on the ball whether Dez's route is perfect or poor. Ball should've never gone there.

 

[links18]

Dez got bumped and quit on his route, you guys act like QB's never throw a pass till a receiver is wide open.

Aikman said it was a timing throw. He should know; it was the basis of the offense when he was a QB. In those situations, you trust the receiver will be where they are supposed to be.

 

[WoodysGirl]

Other than Dez pulling out a magic wand and making the safety disappear the safety was going to pick the ball off. The Romantics on this board will see no wrong in Romo on the throw but there is no way it every should have been thrown. That and all of the picks were on Romo. And why isn't there a thread on how Romo sucked in the beginning of the game?

There are various threads discussing different aspects of it, but maybe you should post it to get it started.


For the record, I think the first INT was on Dez and it has nothing to do with what the commentators were saying. Even to my untrained eye, that didn't look like a well run route.

 

[couchscout]

I really wish I could say that interception wasn't totally on Dez, but it was. Not only was Romo 100% right in making that throw, it was an absolutely beautiful throw. It's not that Dez rounded off his route, it's that he just decided to change it on the fly. He beat CB so bad early, he wanted to take the route vertical. Now, the safety was standing pretty flat footed, so there is a pretty damn good chance that had Romo thrown it up there, Dez would have run past the safety and it could have been a big play. In my years of playing and coaching, I've had many players like this, if they see an opportunity for a big play, they take it, even if it means going against the plays design. Smarter players would come to the QB/Coach/OC after the play and say "hey, when we ran that play action dig hold route, that safety was flat footed, lets go down town on it." Instead Dez tried to change the route mid-play, and it turned into an INT. At about 12-15 yards Dez is supposed to break that play straight across, he's supposed to run a dig route, instead he ran a skinny post.

I wanna love Dez, he has so many of the attributes to be successful, but he doesn't have it upstairs. Third year in the league and he's still running the wrong routes, lining up in the wrong place, missing sight adjustments, having no awareness of the sidelines (not talking about the big play at the end of this game), and generally displaying a super low football IQ. At this point, I hold out little hope it will ever change.

For the record that next INT was allll on Romo, he has to place that ball a lot better.

 

[Stinger_Splash]

Once again the Romo apologists are back at it....he had ZERO business throwing that ball into triple coverage. The play action had no chance of working because the fake was executed poorly. The safety was in a position to make a play regardless, interception might have been avoided but no chance that play is completed.

Thank you. All of Romo's interceptions were his fault. There are no excuses for him.

 

[Bleu Star]

Can we discuss please? Anyone have a differing view than the commentators on that one?

Not really. Dez should have sharpened the angle on that cut and come across closer to a 90 degree angle. I'm willing to bet he was supposed to cut much more sharply. Had he probably done what was supposed to be run, that's a catch and most likely a bigger gain across the middle as he would have caught it and broke past the safety.

Calling it like I see it and everyone knows I am about as far away from a Romo apologist as Pluto is from the sun. Actually, they both get on my nerves.

 

[Ender]

Cajun, I greatly respect your opinion on the boards and I'm married to a Cajun Queen, but I have to go with Aikman on this one and after watching the replay. For this specific play, it clearly shows Dez rounding the route off and not getting inside soon enough. He does that and the worst that probably happens is a broken up pass, not an int. Dangerous pass, no doubt, but it was on Dez.

The dangerous pass that shouldn't been thrown is Dez fault.. Sure

 

[Tezz]

I thought it was a misread by Romo or trying to thread the needle and the safety just made a good play... It could've been a bad route, but to me it could've just as easily been a post route where Romo didn't see the safety.

 

[jobberone]

Other than Dez pulling out a magic wand and making the safety disappear the safety was going to pick the ball off. The Romantics on this board will see no wrong in Romo on the throw but there is no way it every should have been thrown. That and all of the picks were on Romo. And why isn't there a thread on how Romo sucked in the beginning of the game?

And how does the safety INT the ball? If Dez is where he should be the ball gets to him first. The only way the safety can get to the ball is for Dez to fall down before the ball arrives, not be where he's supposed to be in front of the safety or the safety goes thru Dez to get the ball then that's pass interference. These are big league throws designed to work a certain way. Dez screwed it up which is whay everyone is on his arse.

But oh no they just climbed his arse so people would think it was Dez's fault thereby deflecting blame from Garrett and Romo.

 

[jimmy40]

I really wish I could say that interception wasn't totally on Dez, but it was. Not only was Romo 100% right in making that throw, it was an absolutely beautiful throw. It's not that Dez rounded off his route, it's that he just decided to change it on the fly. He beat CB so bad early, he wanted to take the route vertical. Now, the safety was standing pretty flat footed, so there is a pretty damn good chance that had Romo thrown it up there, Dez would have run past the safety and it could have been a big play. In my years of playing and coaching, I've had many players like this, if they see an opportunity for a big play, they take it, even if it means going against the plays design. Smarter players would come to the QB/Coach/OC after the play and say "hey, when we ran that play action dig hold route, that safety was flat footed, lets go down town on it." Instead Dez tried to change the route mid-play, and it turned into an INT. At about 12-15 yards Dez is supposed to break that play straight across, he's supposed to run a dig route, instead he ran a skinny post.

I wanna love Dez, he has so many of the attributes to be successful, but he doesn't have it upstairs. Third year in the league and he's still running the wrong routes, lining up in the wrong place, missing sight adjustments, having no awareness of the sidelines (not talking about the big play at the end of this game), and generally displaying a super low football IQ. At this point, I hold out little hope it will ever change.

For the record that next INT was allll on Romo, he has to place that ball a lot better.

 

[Ender]

I really wish I could say that interception wasn't totally on Dez, but it was. Not only was Romo 100% right in making that throw, it was an absolutely beautiful throw. It's not that Dez rounded off his route, it's that he just decided to change it on the fly. He beat CB so bad early, he wanted to take the route vertical. Now, the safety was standing pretty flat footed, so there is a pretty damn good chance that had Romo thrown it up there, Dez would have run past the safety and it could have been a big play. In my years of playing and coaching, I've had many players like this, if they see an opportunity for a big play, they take it, even if it means going against the plays design. Smarter players would come to the QB/Coach/OC after the play and say "hey, when we ran that play action dig hold route, that safety was flat footed, lets go down town on it." Instead Dez tried to change the route mid-play, and it turned into an INT. At about 12-15 yards Dez is supposed to break that play straight across, he's supposed to run a dig route, instead he ran a skinny post.

I wanna love Dez, he has so many of the attributes to be successful, but he doesn't have it upstairs. Third year in the league and he's still running the wrong routes, lining up in the wrong place, missing sight adjustments, having no awareness of the sidelines (not talking about the big play at the end of this game), and generally displaying a super low football IQ. At this point, I hold out little hope it will ever change.

For the record that next INT was allll on Romo, he has to place that ball a lot better.

That sounds great and all. But if Dez was suppose to break the route off after 10-12 why was the ball thrown 15+ yards down field? Even if it was a deep dig route, the qb should not throw the ball with a db trailing and a safety over the top. That route is dead right then and there.

 

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[Yakuza Rich]

I put more of the blame on Romo and I have been re-watching the play. Maybe the all-22 camera shows something different. But Brown wasn't deep enough for Dez to cross him effectively and I just don't see how anybody can watch the play and say that Romo saw Brown. He didn't. Put the blame on Dez for fumbling the punt return.






YR

 

[Cajuncowboy]

Cajun, I greatly respect your opinion on the boards and I'm married to a Cajun Queen, but I have to go with Aikman on this one and after watching the replay. For this specific play, it clearly shows Dez rounding the route off and not getting inside soon enough. He does that and the worst that probably happens is a broken up pass, not an int. Dangerous pass, no doubt, but it was on Dez.

My point was that the decision to throw the ball at the start of the play was bad because there was triple coverage. In addition, regardless of what Dez did, the safety jumped it and the pick was going to happen. What Dez did was inconsequential.

 

[Ender]

Clearly Romo didn't see the safety. He looked that way the entire time and the saftey read it.

 

[JustDezIt]

I really wish I could say that interception wasn't totally on Dez, but it was. Not only was Romo 100% right in making that throw, it was an absolutely beautiful throw. It's not that Dez rounded off his route, it's that he just decided to change it on the fly. He beat CB so bad early, he wanted to take the route vertical. Now, the safety was standing pretty flat footed, so there is a pretty damn good chance that had Romo thrown it up there, Dez would have run past the safety and it could have been a big play. In my years of playing and coaching, I've had many players like this, if they see an opportunity for a big play, they take it, even if it means going against the plays design. Smarter players would come to the QB/Coach/OC after the play and say "hey, when we ran that play action dig hold route, that safety was flat footed, lets go down town on it." Instead Dez tried to change the route mid-play, and it turned into an INT. At about 12-15 yards Dez is supposed to break that play straight across, he's supposed to run a dig route, instead he ran a skinny post.

I wanna love Dez, he has so many of the attributes to be successful, but he doesn't have it upstairs. Third year in the league and he's still running the wrong routes, lining up in the wrong place, missing sight adjustments, having no awareness of the sidelines (not talking about the big play at the end of this game), and generally displaying a super low football IQ. At this point, I hold out little hope it will ever change.

For the record that next INT was allll on Romo, he has to place that ball a lot better.

I respect your opinion, as well as WG's. I guess my initial feeling was that even if he had made the cut he would've gotten blasted by the safety who didnt buy on the broken play fake This is why I wanted to discuss this play in particular, to see how others saw it. You def no more than I do on the topic and i respect Troy as well but I know commentators have to think fast on their feet and make split second decisions as well. This makes more sense than Troy's argument that the route wasnt crisp enough, that the route shouldve been shallower, not so much that he rounded it off, which wouldve still gotten him blasted.

 

[Cajuncowboy]

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That actually proves the point that Romo never should have thrown the ball. You had a LB dropping, you had Dez bracketed on the outside and the ball, when it is released is floated high allowing the safety to jump it. No sharp cut by Dez would have made a difference.

 

[Yakuza Rich]

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Yup.

Romo didn't look the safety off either. All you need is one step, Brown didn't make one. Dez squaring off the route may have prevented the INT, but it's real iffy. Romo has to look off Brown, see if Brown makes a step towards Austin, then fire to Dez if he does.





YR

 

[Oh_Canada]

I put more of the blame on Romo and I have been re-watching the play. Maybe the all-22 camera shows something different. But Brown wasn't deep enough for Dez to cross him effectively and I just don't see how anybody can watch the play and say that Romo saw Brown. He didn't. Put the blame on Dez for fumbling the punt return.






YR

I totally agree....no freakin idea how anyone can say Dez catches that ball if he runs a crisper route, at the VERY best the ball sails over his head.