Lets talk about the first interception

It was a common NFL route. Looked like a standard route to go into the middle zone of that coverage. If Dez runs a good route its at least a catch and Dez out sizes and out speeds the safety there so who knows what happens if he runs the right route. Would it have been great for their safety to make a mistake and bite on a route outside of the zone he should be playing in? Yes, but that would have meant we got a completion despite Dez's bad route.

Romo has his issues. Right now they are being magnified by his line, WR and RB play. Murray is the only RB I think the team actually trusts right now and he seems to get hurt a lot.
 
Oh_Canada;4811237 said:
Once again the Romo apologists are back at it....he had ZERO business throwing that ball into triple coverage. The play action had no chance of working because the fake was executed poorly. The safety was in a position to make a play regardless, interception might have been avoided but no chance that play is completed.

It's funny. When a QB completes that throw in front of the safety, everyone says, "Great throw!" When the receiver rounds of his route and doesn't get where he's supposed to be, everyone says, "What are you doing, Romo?"

Good quarterbacks make that throw because they expect their receivers to be there to make the catch. The throw was where it was supposed to be, the receiver wasn't.

Now, if you want to blame Romo for the pass to Austin or the pass JPP intercepted, I have no problem with that. This one was simply a receiver not doing his job on a throw good quarterbacks make.
 
gimmesix;4814535 said:
It's funny. When a QB completes that throw in front of the safety, everyone says, "Great throw!" When the receiver rounds of his route and doesn't get where he's supposed to be, everyone says, "What are you doing, Romo?"

Good quarterbacks make that throw because they expect their receivers to be there to make the catch. The throw was where it was supposed to be, the receiver wasn't.

Now, if you want to blame Romo for the pass to Austin or the pass JPP intercepted, I have no problem with that. This one was simply a receiver not doing his job on a throw good quarterbacks make.

I agree. It is like a WR stopping on a slant rout and the QB gets picked. QB put the ball out there with every expectation that his WR is going to run the rout and not stop on the rout. QB gets the int put on the stat sheet but anyone with a ounce of sense damn well knows that is the fault of the WR. In this case Dez ran a sloppy rout and it cost us an int.

I also agree that Romo also made mistake and not all int are on someone else.
 
Doomsday101;4814546 said:
..I also agree that Romo also made mistake and not all int are on someone else.

We should also note clearly that all QBs have WRs run wrong routes, and there's nothing concrete to suggest it happens more to Romo than it does to other QBs, so Tony's stats relative to the competition might not be skewed, really, just because of his WRs.

The point of this particular play being Dez's fault is really only relevant when we're talking about whom to blame in this specific instance.
 
Bad route running on Dez. Should've ran a true post and not a lazy umbrella route. If he undercuts the safety like he is supposed to he may go for even more yards.
 
Bryant said the fumbled punt was the result of trying to do too much and running before he had the ball. On the interception, Bryant said he was off balance as he tried to flatten out his route. He noted that it was not a miscommunication between him and Romo.

When talking about Bryant’s errors, Jones said the big plays don’t win the games as much as the mistakes lose them.

Asked about that comment, Bryant agreed with the team owner.

“He’s absolutely right,” Bryant said. “We’ve just got to eliminate the mistakes. Those are the things that kill you, but we’ve just got to keep fighting.”

http://cowboysblog.***BANNED-URL***...win-games-as-much-as-mistakes-lose-them.html/
 
Mr Cowboy;4814766 said:
http://cowboysblog.***BANNED-URL***...win-games-as-much-as-mistakes-lose-them.html/

You don't have to keep fighting. You have to make taking care of the football a higher priority than trying to make plays. You you need to sit until you do. There's an important difference.
 
Ender;4811217 said:
Romo should have never thrown the pass. That's one reason he has thrown some many ints this year. The receiver is bracketed. DB looks like his playing a trail and has safety help over the top, Romo never looked off the safety. It wasn't a good rout, but the pass shouldn't have been thrown.

:bang2:

If some of you had your way the Cowboys would never throw a pass unless the receiver was open by 10 yards. The pass to Dez when the Giants blew the coverage had to be the only acceptable pass made yesterday.

Romo absolutely should have made the throw and it should have been a nice pick up on the play as well.
 
Idgit;4814686 said:
We should also note clearly that all QBs have WRs run wrong routes, and there's nothing concrete to suggest it happens more to Romo than it does to other QBs, so Tony's stats relative to the competition might not be skewed, really, just because of his WRs.

The point of this particular play being Dez's fault is really only relevant when we're talking about whom to blame in this specific instance.

I agree that every team has receiver mistakes, and quarterbacks really are given too much blame for their interception totals.

But I don't know if I've seen a team have as many receiver-based interception problems as Dallas has had at this point in the season. I can think of at least six (of Romo's 13) that the receivers are directly responsible for this year, and it's possibly more than that.
 
gimmesix;4814851 said:
I agree that every team has receiver mistakes, and quarterbacks really are given too much blame for their interception totals.

But I don't know if I've seen a team have as many receiver-based interception problems as Dallas has had at this point in the season. I can think of at least six (of Romo's 13) that the receivers are directly responsible for this year, and it's possibly more than that.

Honestly, I don't know if I have, either, but I only watch the Cowboys faithfully, and I haven't seen anything to indicate we make more bonehead plays than other teams do in this regard.

I do know that when I watch other teams' OLs and really pay attention, I notice a lot more pre-snap penalties and poor blocking than I was aware of before I started paying attention. There's a lot to be said for the effects of confirmation bias.
 
jobberone;4811190 said:
Dez has separation on the CB with a deep S sitting in a two deep zone. Dez's route was run poorly and if executed properly he would have crossed in front of the deep safety and no INT happens. IMO. Those are big league throws and Dez sucks at his routes too often. This is now a big problem without a doubt. And it is concerning this far into his career.

I totally agree. Bryant cannot run timing patterns because he cannot run precise routes.
 
the whole play was a disaster.
Romo's pathetic attempt at a fake hand off is for one the ages.

It didnt do a damned thing, let alone freeze a lber or bring a S a step or two closer to the LOS.

That S was waiting for that route all along and despite a poor route by Dez the pass should never have been thrown. Romo just HAS to see tyat deep S and throw a checkdown or get rid of it.

Its 75% on romo and 25% on dez imo. But the basics continue to elude this offence. *** was that fake handoff ? More miscommunication in Garretts offensive playbook. Quelle surprise!!!!!
 
ChldsPlay;4814787 said:
:bang2:

If some of you had your way the Cowboys would never throw a pass unless the receiver was open by 10 yards. The pass to Dez when the Giants blew the coverage had to be the only acceptable pass made yesterday.

Romo absolutely should have made the throw and it should have been a nice pick up on the play as well.

and romo screwed that up too
 
Any fool that throws a ball directly towards a safety who's just standing there, hoping a receiver can somehow shield him from the ball is pathetic. How about go somewhere else with the ball? You whine about no protection, you had enough time to build play ground, find another target.
 
Idgit;4814780 said:
You have to make taking care of the football a higher priority than trying to make plays..

Dez isn't the only one who needs to learn that..
 
RoyTheHammer;4815063 said:
Dez isn't the only one who needs to learn that..

Agreed. That applies across the board.
 
I played the receiver position and there comes a time when you have to protect your QB by running precise route's. WE all know Dez's route running sucks. Now why would the coaches put Dez in a position to run a route we ALL now he sucks at?

Romo may be making bad decisions but this was 100% on Dez and the playcall. Coaching killed this team against the Gmen. I thought the light bulb came on for Romo and there may finally be some trust with the O-line. Good game overall for the entire in the 2nd half.:)
 
couchscout;4812353 said:
Ding ding ding!!!


It absolutely blows my mind how so many football fans can know so little about the game. This game is SOOOOOO much more complex than they realize. Do some research before making these outlandish statements. There are tons and tons and tons of websites and books out there that can help explain the game. Watching football on TV, even for 40 years, doesn't even kinda qualify you to judge what happens on any individual play. You have to see if from the all22, know what the assignments of every players on the field were, and understand the intent and design of both the offensive and defensive play. Only then can you even start to figure out what actually happened.

When I watched the video, it seemed to me that when the corner chucked Bryant coming off the line, it threw him off for several yards, and he never really got his bearings until it was too late.

I am in no way trying to absolve Bryant in this play. I believe he still had the opportunity to run the route properly. I guess I am saying that the bump threw him a lot more off than it should have and had a disastrous effect on his route.
 

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