Let's talk linebackers

[rambo2]

They will absolutely leave huge holes in the 22 before “overpaying” in the eyes of talent evaluator Stephen Jones….and it burns them every time.

It will be interesting how it turns out this time at linebacker.

 

[rambo2]

CJ Allen has a decent probability of being available at 20, but most mock drafts have him going off the board before pick 30. So if we trade back far, it’s likely he’s gone soon after 20.

What are the odds thar Allen or Rodriguez are available in a trade back?

 

[gimmesix]

I'd say that that they didn't overpay and have interest in trading for Brooks or drafting Allen or Rodriguez.

You are welcome to say that. I think if we're relying on a rookie linebacker, it's a poor plan. And I see nothing concerning Brooks other than speculation.

 

[kramskoi]

What are the odds thar Allen or Rodriguez are available in a trade back?

I wouldn't pass on Allen...even at 12 (unless Delane or Terrell are there)...he may or may not be there at 20. Day one starter who played the MIKE at Georgia.

• Natural communicator who gets teammates aligned pre-snap and handles the green dot responsibilities with the poise of a ten-year veteran.

"What makes Allen a safe selection is the total package beyond the physical traits. The leadership, the football intelligence, the experience in a pro-style system under Kirby Smart, and the three years of high-level SEC production all point toward a player who will start from Week 1 and anchor a defense for a long time. He is not going to wow anyone with splash plays or highlight-reel moments, but he will show up every Sunday, get the defense lined up, and rarely beat himself. Teams building a defense around reliability and culture will find a foundational piece here."

 

[Coogiguy03]

I wouldn't pass on Allen...even at 12 (unless Delane or Terrell are there)...he may or may not be there at 20. Day one starter who played the MIKE at Georgia.

• Natural communicator who gets teammates aligned pre-snap and handles the green dot responsibilities with the poise of a ten-year veteran.

"What makes Allen a safe selection is the total package beyond the physical traits. The leadership, the football intelligence, the experience in a pro-style system under Kirby Smart, and the three years of high-level SEC production all point toward a player who will start from Week 1 and anchor a defense for a long time. He is not going to wow anyone with splash plays or highlight-reel moments, but he will show up every Sunday, get the defense lined up, and rarely beat himself. Teams building a defense around reliability and culture will find a foundational piece here."

You just sold me on him

 

[Aven8]

None of the FA LB’s were as good as the top ones in the draft. Styles, CJ, JRod, and even Jack Kelly from BYU.

Give me two ILB’s please and another OLB in the draft.

 

[rambo2]

You just sold me on him

I think that Allen is the favorite between pick 20 and 25. He called the defense at Georgia and they hired his coach. Connecting the dots gives the Cowboys a good chance of getting him.

 

[Coogiguy03]

I think that Allen is the favorite between pick 20 and 25. He called the defense at Georgia and they hired his coach. Connecting the dots gives the Cowboys a good chance of getting him.

I heard someone on X say watch out for the cowboys drafting a player from Georgia, we shall see. What coach did we hire from there

 

[kramskoi]

CJ Allen has a decent probability of being available at 20, but most mock drafts have him going off the board before pick 30. So if we trade back far, it’s likely he’s gone soon after 20.

You have to watch this because Allen is more ready than Styles, who only has two years at the LB position. Now Styles has a higher ceiling and better pass coverage...with the versatility to play any LB position but he might have some growing pains. Some teams might value Allen more as a finished product. 3 years of high SEC production could be the difference. Low missed tackle rate. Textbook tackling...every time. Good blitzer. Played the Mike at Georgia.

 

[phildadon86]

I think that they would have taken Dean or Walker, but not both. They lost them. I wouldn't call that criminal. That's just they way it turned out. I do think that they are interested in trading for Brooks and would have interest in drafting Allen or Rodriguez in the 20's.

Read my post again.

Going into the draft with a hope of getting a player isn’t a strategy.

The fact of the matter is when this teams plans fall thru, they don’t know what to do. There is no back up plan.

Last season we had the worst LB corps in the league. And we still do.

Relying on a rookie to come in and save the LB corps is a terrible plan.

 

[phildadon86]

You are welcome to say that. I think if we're relying on a rookie linebacker, it's a poor plan. And I see nothing concerning Brooks other than speculation.

Thank you.

 

[rambo2]

I heard someone on X say watch out for the cowboys drafting a player from Georgia, we shall see. What coach did we hire from there

I think it was the linebacker coach. I looked it up. It's the outside linebackers coach.

 

[rambo2]

Read my post again.

Going into the draft with a hope of getting a player isn’t a strategy.

The fact of the matter is when this teams plans fall thru, they don’t know what to do. There is no back up plan.

Last season we had the worst LB corps in the league. And we still do.

Relying on a rookie to come in and save the LB corps is a terrible plan.

We shall see, but Allen and Rodriguez are good players. I wouldn't mind having either one of them and I would love getting Brooks in trade.

 

[kramskoi]

None of the FA LB’s were as good as the top ones in the draft. Styles, CJ, JRod, and even Jack Kelly from BYU.

Give me two ILB’s please and another OLB in the draft.

Probably true. Allen (as the MIKE) is probably more ready than all of them, including Reese, who only started one season. But Reese has that freakish athleticism and power to punish offensive lineman...but it gets him into trouble, becoming too aggressive.

So the advantage that Reese and Styles have on Allen is the higher ceilings born of their high level athletic bonafides. Reese is really a dawg though. He combines Allen and Styles. He just lets his athleticism get the better of him. Styles is reportedly short on power to take on offensive lineman. Something he would have to improve. All show elite run defense skills. Allen is more polished and finished (3 years as a starter). A rock. Nothing too flashy but he's gonna be there every time...all the time. That's the narrative anyway.

So Allen is most ready...and some teams might value that. No way I'm not picking him...either at 12 or 20. He's your day one MIKE. Full stop.

 

[big dog cowboy]

If Styles is there and he isn’t drafted, I will fly to Frisco and punch dumb and dumber in the mouth!

We'll pitch in for your plane ticket.

 

[big dog cowboy]

Murray is not on the roster.

Thank goodness. He had me worried for a minute I thought I missed something!

 

[gimmesix]

I think it was the linebacker coach. I looked it up. It's the outside linebackers coach.

Yeah, since they played a 3-4 like us, he was the pass rushers coach (DE/OLB) instead of ILB coach, but still he would have good knowledge concerning Allen. Based on our approach at LB this offseason, I think he's our choice at some point.

I'd like us to still get someone like Okereke or Wagner and make Allen have to win snaps away from them, but we may wait to see how the draft goes and then sign a vet because they may be asking more than we think they are worth.

 

[phildadon86]

We shall see, but Allen and Rodriguez are good players. I wouldn't mind having either one of them and I would love getting Brooks in trade.

Nothing about brooks sounds like anything but people talking.

And yes they are both good players. Not disagreeing. I’m saying relying on a rookie in that position is not smart.

 

[big dog cowboy]

What coach did we hire from there

 

[phildadon86]

Probably true. Allen (as the MIKE) is probably more ready than all of them, including Reese, who only started one season. But Reese has that freakish athleticism and power to punish offensive lineman...but it gets him into trouble, becoming too aggressive.

So the advantage that Reese and Styles have on Allen is the higher ceilings born of their high level athletic bonafides. Reese is really a dawg though. He combines Allen and Styles. He just lets his athleticism get the better of him. Styles is reportedly short on power to take on offensive lineman. Something he would have to improve. All show elite run defense skills. Allen is more polished and finished (3 years as a starter). A rock. Nothing too flashy but he's gonna be there every time...all the time. That's the narrative anyway.

So Allen is most ready...and some teams might value that. No way I'm not picking him...either at 12 or 20. He's your day one MIKE. Full stop.

lol.

Allen more ready than Reese?

Go sit down and have some water sir. You’re drunk.

No Gm on the planet is taking Allen over styles or Reese.

And Allen will not be there, all the time every time in the NFL at least not in his first season. That’s the entire problem of relying on a rookie for that important a position.