Lets update our Predictions

[BBQ101]

9-7. I expected a loss here, and we still have an easy schedule, b ut I've lost hope of every winning anything with Romo until proven otherwise.

Sure, you might have expected a loss here to the Jets, but did you expect it to be so close, and that we basically lost the game?

I personally don't think Romo is an issue. In fact I think Romo is part of the reason we have a chance. Romo had an issue with this earlier in his career, but I think he has taken the time and changed his mindset to correct those issues. That doesn't mean he wont still make mistakes though...even twice in one game.

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[Eskimo]

I originally thought 6-10 but defense is better than I thought and OL actually did okay against one of the tougher defenses in the league.

I'm going to up to 8-8 now.

But Dez is going to have to stay healthy. We are a different offense with him running full speed. He needs to learn how to conserve his energy and preserve his health. Robinson is going to have his hands full with him.

 

[SA_Gunslinger]

What other teams in the league would have no issue with having all three starting CBs out? Depth at CB is not even an issue for this team, at least at the start of the season. No team is so deep that they can shrug off that kind of occurrence. I don't think that you can reasonably state that depth cost us this game, because no team has that much depth at any position.

Does that make sense? I can see your point, but it is not something that you can draft or pay your way out of. No one would devote so much to one position just to be ok if they lost 3 starters...

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I know what you're getting at but it's a position I believe we are thin at. And it's not the only one.

 

[The30YardSlant]

Sure, you might have expected a loss here to the Jets, but did you expect it to be so close, and that we basically lost the game?

I personally don't think Romo is an issue. In fact I think Romo is part of the reason we have a chance. Romo had an issue with this earlier in his career, but I think he has taken the time and changed his mindset to correct those issues. That doesn't mean he wont still make mistakes though...even twice in one game.

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Romo is the reason we always have a chance, but I'm not convinced he is also the reason why we will never completely succeed. He is incredibly gifted and makes amazing plays, but he just doesnt have whatever guys like Brady, Montana and Aikman had.

 

[windward]

Romo's had five years to prove me right. I've defended him in the face of endless adversity here. He, Ware and Witten are the only players I never, ever wavered on. No loss had ever caused me to lose faith, not even his collapse in Pittsburgh in 2008.

Tonight I lost my faith in Romo. It hurts to admit that, more than you know, but I lost it. Nothing short of a SB title will bring me back, because he has come up short one too many times now. Tonight changed my outlook on the current state ofm the franchise forever, and this fact is unbelievably upsetting.

Fair enough, I think you're being genuine here.

I'm not happy with his fourth quarter today. Not by a long shot But he's not there with me.Not yet at least

Hopefully he doesn't have a game like this for a long while. All we can do is wait and see.

 

[BBQ101]

Romo's had five years to prove me right. I've defended him in the face of endless adversity here. He, Ware and Witten are the only players I never, ever wavered on. No loss had ever caused me to lose faith, not even his collapse in Pittsburgh in 2008.

Tonight I lost my faith in Romo. It hurts to admit that, more than you know, but I lost it. Nothing short of a SB title will bring me back, because he has come up short one too many times now. Tonight changed my outlook on the current state ofm the franchise forever, and this fact is unbelievably upsetting.

Wow, one fumble and a bad decision and you have given up on a player. Romo was not, and is not the issue with this team. I don't know that he will ever win a super bowl, because it take alot more than just one person, but I believe Romo gives you more chance to win the game (and it all) than 25 other guys in this league, and at this level, that is all you can hope for.

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[windward]

I originally thought 6-10 but defense is better than I thought and OL actually did okay against one of the tougher defenses in the league.

I'm going to up to 8-8 now.

But Dez is going to have to stay healthy. We are a different offense with him running full speed. He needs to learn how to conserve his energy and preserve his health. Robinson is going to have his hands full with him.

No kidding. I'm afraid he's going to blow a knee when he is fighting through gang tackles and defender after defender is coming at him.

 

[BBQ101]

Romo is the reason we always have a chance, but I'm not convinced he is also the reason why we will never completely succeed. He is incredibly gifted and makes amazing plays, but he just doesnt have whatever guys like Brady, Montana and Aikman had.

Geeze man, if you are going compare them against Brady, Montana and Aikman, then you are just about always going to be disappointing. Those types of players don't come around too often.

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[The30YardSlant]

Fair enough, I think you're being genuine here.

I'm not happy with his fourth quarter today. Not by a long shot But he's not there with me.Not yet at least

Hopefully he doesn't have a game like this for a long while. All we can do is wait and see.

I think my issue comes from the fact that, as much as people call me a "realist" and as little patience as I have for failure, I still always believed deep down that Romo would come through one day. Five years worth of hoping came to a head today when finally, FINALLY, it looked like Romo was taking an average team on his back and leading them to victory against one of the best teams in football on the road in a statement game...and then the fourth quarter happened. I pray I'm wrong, I truly do, but I just can't convince myself any longer without proof that Romo is the guy. I want the proof, I long for it, but I just don't think it will ever come.

 

[The30YardSlant]

Wow, one fumble and a bad decision and you have given up on a player. Romo was not, and is not the issue with this team. I don't know that he will ever win a super bowl, because it take alot more than just one person, but I believe Romo gives you more chance to win the game (and it all) than 25 other guys in this league, and at this level, that is all you can hope for.

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One fumble and one bad decision? It's insulting that you address the situation like that. Insulting, and intellectually dishonest.

 

[BBQ101]

One fumble and one bad decision? It's insulting that you address the situation like that. Insulting, and intellectually dishonest.

That is a big statement to lay out and just end it. You stated you believed in Romo until tonight, and from what I remember he had two bad plays (and yes they costs us the game). So please help me understand why that is insulting and dishonest? I was not trying to be either, so maybe I missed something.

He still went 23 - 36 with a 2 - 1 TD/Int ratio. He also had a rating of 103.6 even though he was running for his life for alot of the game and was sacked 4 times. If he ends the season with those numbers, then I think we are all happy with the outcome.

Please enlighten me. Saying I am being insulting and intellectually dishonest and leaving it at that is not making a valid argument.

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[The30YardSlant]

That is a big statement to lay out and just end it. You stated you believed in Romo until tonight, and from what I remember he had two bad plays (and yes they costs us the game). So please help me understand why that is insulting and dishonest? I was not trying to be either, so maybe I missed something.

He still went 23 - 36 with a 2 - 1 TD/Int ratio. He also had a rating of 103.6 even though he was running for his life for alot of the game and was sacked 4 times. If he ends the season with those numbers, then I think we are all happy with the outcome.

Please enlighten me. Saying I am being insulting and intellectually dishonest and leaving it at that is not making a valid argument.

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The fact that he had such a great overall game is precisely what caused tonight to be the breaking point for me. Even on a night when he was on his game, when he was playing at an elite level against a great defense all night, he STILL couldnt muster up enough from within to only NOT fail, but he couldnt even avoid actively losing the game for us. ON HIS BEST NIGHT, Tony Romo still failed in the clutch. For 45 minutes, he was the best quarterback I've seen in Dallas since Troy circa 1995, and despite that he still faltered when it mattered. It wasnt the continuation of an already bad night, it wasnt a flair up of earlier mishaps, it was a flawless game that changed because the score got close and he turned into a different player.

THAT is why he lost me tonight, because I'm convinced that no matter what he does, no matter how well he plays, no matter how many touchdowns he throws, he will always be Tony Romo the quarterback, not Tony Romo the champion.

 

[BBQ101]

The fact that he had such a great overall game is precisely what caused tonight to be the breaking point for me. Even on a night when he was on his game, when he was playing at an elite level against a great defense all night, he STILL couldnt muster up enough from within to only NOT fail, but he couldnt even avoid actively losing the game for us. ON HIS BEST NIGHT, Tony Romo still failed in the clutch. For 45 minutes, he was the best quarterback I've seen in Dallas since Troy circa 1995, and despite that he still faltered when it mattered. It wasnt the continuation of an already bad night, it wasnt a flair up of earlier mishaps, it was a flawless game that changed because the score got close and he turned into a different player.

THAT is why he lost me tonight, because I'm convinced that no matter what he does, no matter how well he plays, no matter how many touchdowns he throws, he will always be Tony Romo the quarterback, not Tony Romo the champion.

So how is what I wrote :"One fumble and one bad decision?" different from what you wrote up there? He played a flawless game except for his to flawed decisions that cost us the game, and now you have given up on him. Don't see how that makes me insulting and intulectually dishonest for saying the same thing in less words.

Anyway, you are not the first to give up on Romo, and you wont be the last. For some, greatness can only be defined by winning it all. I for one think he will prove you wrong in the end.

I am more pragmatic. I think Romo is a godsend from what we have rolled out at QB since your aforementioned Troy circa 1995. I also think he has all the tools needed to bring it all home. However, having all the tools, and making it actually happen are two different things.

Anyway, it is late and I have to get some sleep. I can understand you thinking Romo doesn't have what it takes...afterall, you are the one that is right at the moment...he hasn't done anything when it mattered most. However, I do take issue with you calling me insulting and intulectually dishonest.

I was being neither, and your response didn't back that up for me.

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[The30YardSlant]

So how is what I wrote :"One fumble and one bad decision?" different from what you wrote up there? He played a flawless game except for his to flawed decisions that cost us the game, and now you have given up on him. Don't see how that makes me insulting and intulectually dishonest for saying the same thing in less words.

Anyway, you are not the first to give up on Romo, and you wont be the last. For some, greatness can only be defined by winning it all. I for one think he will prove you wrong in the end.

I am more pragmatic. I think Romo is a godsend from what we have rolled out at QB since your aforementioned Troy circa 1995. I also think he has all the tools needed to bring it all home. However, having all the tools, and making it actually happen are two different things.

Anyway, it is late and I have to get some sleep. I can understand you thinking Romo doesn't have what it takes...afterall, you are the one that is right at the moment...he hasn't done anything when it mattered most. However, I do take issue with you calling me insulting and intulectually dishonest.

I was being neither, and your response didn't back that up for me.

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So many times I've defended Romo's failures (and there have been many) because he got no help, or he was already having a bad game, or the coaching put him in a bad position...none of that was applicable tonight. He had the game won, then he said "here you go New York" and gave it all back.

If Tony Romo wins a championship, I will be first in line begging for forgiveness and acknowledging his greatness. Until then, I can delude myself no longer.

 

[SaltwaterServr]

10-6 or 11-5 this morning.

Barring injuries, I'm saying 11-5 now. We're not going to run into many more defenses as stout as the Jets are up front against the run or in the secondary.

 

[realtick]

Nothing has changed, I'm predicting 9-7.

 

[Beast_from_East]

I am sticking with my original prediction of 8-8.


I had this game as a loss, but I didnt expect us to just piss it away like we did.

 

[Dallaslullaby]

9-7 or 10-6

Only worry is the corner depth for me

 

[Arch Stanton]

We are so bad and after reading through Cbz my prediction is we go 0-32 this year.

 

[reddyuta]

i said 8-8 before and now i am upgrading it to 9-7.