Likelihood of trade/waiver wire addition of RB?

[Cowboysheelsreds058]

i failed to see your point, the jets brought that deal to the cowboys not the other way around , trying to tell me that you think the lions were smarter to do that deal??LOL i hope not.. Mims is a bust so far and our rb room is quite full for now. we dont need wr or RB, until we do.. that what TC and PS is for a few weeks leading to game 1 we will know what they think of this group.

So, SEE Nothing but possible CAMP bodies.

starters are pretty set at wr..CEEDEE, Gallup, and cooks, add in snaps the Rbs get and Turpin ...

Tolbert and that young group battling for 4-7 is really just not even a concern. how many balls are left , seriously??

My point was they were interested whether they were the lead or not, just stated they were interested because the article said they were and was hoping the jets would just flat release him and they got him for nothing. Nothing more or less the point is moot because the lions gave up the 7th rounder.

 

[beware_d-ware]

How do you know Vaughn is a fringe NFL player, before he even goes to his first training camp?

Size and speed.

No RB with a size/speed combo as poor as Deuce's has ever had a successful NFL career in the Combine era.

 

[805BoysInBlue]

Size and speed.

No RB with a size/speed combo as poor as Deuce's has ever had a successful NFL career in the Combine era.

Sproles ran a 4.49 and is like 1 inch taller. Vaughn ran a 4.50, not much difference to be honest. For some reason they showed alot of Kansas games on TV here on the west coast, so watching him live I gotta say I was impressed.

 

[xwalker]

Love Tony Pollard and Deuce Vaughn as big play guys but it feels like the cowboys are light @ RB. Would like to see a punishing RB in the lineup...

Ronald Jones can play as long as his carries are limited.

They can always get a backup RB during the season if needed.

 

[beware_d-ware]

Sproles ran a 4.49 and is like 1 inch taller. Vaughn ran a 4.50, not much difference to be honest. For some reason they showed alot of Kansas games on TV here on the west coast, so watching him live I gotta say I was impressed.

I've seen Deuce's 40 time reported as 4.50 and 4.59.

If he ran a 4.50, then the only HB to succeed with a worse size/speed ratio than him is Motor Singletary. Both are a little below Ahmad Bradshaw. If Deuce ran a 4.59, then he is an off-the-map outlier.

Sproles checked in at 8 lbs heavier than Deuce. He's got a poor size-speed combo, but he's not at the bottom end of the scale.

 

[Typhus]

I made it quite clear afterwards that I was only joking.

Learned a long time ago to quit apologizing.

 

[Typhus]

I was joking, but I wouldn't be surprised to see Jerry negotiate with Zeke for a 1 year deal.

Its definetely not out of the question.
Zeke is floating, the question will be what is available at mass team cut down time.
Other teams will add to the pool with hard cuts at RB.
The market will be set then.

 

[big dog cowboy]

Pollard, while great in his role wasn’t the lead RB, he looked good in a 2-3 games when Zeke was out. But that doesn’t mean he can maintain that for 17(+) games and still have the same level of production and health.

Doesn't mean he can't either.

 

[big dog cowboy]

Rojo and Vaughn are both fringe NFL players.

Vaughn is a fringe NFL player???

 

[Typhus]

Doesn't mean he can't either.

Ive seen that bet played before, you may be mistaken and still associating the historic "lead" back definition, Dorsett, Emmit, we have been spoiled.
Zeke spoiled us, but a different breed of back, only so many Derick Henrys in todays game.
If you think that still exists than please understand RBBC, becuase MM already fully understands the term and the value, the application.
Pollard is exceptional, and he will be preserved in a 17 game regular season schedule.
Fresh legs in the backfield in January is a luxury item.

 

[big dog cowboy]

If you think that still exists than please understand RBBC

I have been the one leading the RBBC decree since before draft day. Pollard will indeed be the lead back. But the 2023 Dallas Cowboys defination of lead back is different than what most are used too around here.

 

[CCBoy]

I have been the one leading the RBBC decree since before draft day. Pollard will indeed be the lead back. But the 2023 Dallas Cowboys defination of lead back is different than what most are used too around here.

Closer to a Philadelphia running back crew.

 

[Typhus]

I have been the one leading the RBBC decree since before draft day. Pollard will indeed be the lead back. But the 2023 Dallas Cowboys defination of lead back is different than what most are used too around here.

That is obvious, and not directed solely at you but in general fan reference that strictly follow Cowboy history.
RBBC is a new term to some fans that have been fans for the dominant running back in this league, historically, and the Cowboys are smack dab in that association.
Those days are done, Jerry holds on to that concept like many fans do.
He is learning still, unbelievable but true.
So are fans.

 

[gimmesix]

Ronald Jones will have a bigger role than most fans expect.

I'm calling it that Jones will have a better YPC than Pollard. That's not meant as a poor opinion of Pollard, only that it's hard to be the lead back for multiple reasons. The more carries you get, usually means the more pesky dings you have to play through.

I'm predicting Pollard is going to average 4.5 per carry this year (which is respectable) and Jones is going to average 4.8. Now, Pollard has only had one season where he averaged less than 5 yards per carry, but he's also never been the outright starter. Jones has had only one season over 5 per carry and then dropped off the next year.

It could come down to goal-line short-yardage stuff. If Pollard stays on the field for those short-yardage carries, that alone could bring down his average some. If we use Jones in that role, it would likely affect his average. If we use Luepke, the speed backs will benefit from not having to be out there as much in those situations.

 

[beware_d-ware]

Vaughn is a fringe NFL player???

A 6th round pick with sub-threshold measurables. That fits the bill.

 

[KJJ]

I don’t see us making a move at RB, unless they detect problems in training camp/preseason or early during the season. Appears the training camp roster is set and they’re going to see how it plays out. They’ll be plenty of players getting cut so they might be able to pick up a bruiser later in the summer if they’re not comfortable with what they have.

 

[big dog cowboy]

I don’t see us making a move at RB, unless they detect problems in training camp/preseason or early during the season. Appears the training camp roster is set and they’re going to see how it plays out. They’ll be plenty of players getting cut so they might be able to pick up a bruiser later in the summer if they’re not comfortable with what they have.

The RB position is no different than punter or kicker in todays NFL. Everyone can see it.

If we lose a RB for the season or we need one for insurance we will sign one before the season or in season.

I truly don't get all the panic in here since Zeke was cut.

 

[KJJ]

I truly don't get all the panic in here since Zeke was cut.

There’s definitely a concern because if we struggle to pick up one or two yards on third or fourth down or we can’t punch it into the end zone from yard out it’s going to lead to problems. Zeke did put up over 800 yards last season and 12 TDs.

 

[Verdict]

Ronald Jones will have a bigger role than most fans expect.

I don’t think so. But hey, I have been wrong before.

 

[blueblood70]

My point was they were interested whether they were the lead or not, just stated they were interested because the article said they were and was hoping the jets would just flat release him and they got him for nothing. Nothing more or less the point is moot because the lions gave up the 7th rounder.

how do you know?? you believe everything you read they in fact never said they were interested,,

the story stated the lions brought the idea to the cowboys, nothing happened= WERE NOT INTRESTED, jeez , you are one easy to influence sm viewer. kudos to them for getting a bust for a 7th that may not even make their team NOTE Sarcasm LOL