Lincoln Riley to the NFL?

[Rayman70]

Other than winning conference titles in the NO DEFENSE Big 12, his Sooners teams flubbed in the college playoffs.
Riley left OU when he found out they were joining the SEC; now he wants to bail on USC because they will soon be in the Big 10 (was "12" a few years ago - been "14" the last couple of seasons - in 2024 it will be 'The Big 18').

good points. Then, whomever hires him better understand his erratic pattern of "wanting out of town" quickly. The guy moves around more than a band of carny gypsies.

 

[Rayman70]

If I hire him, I'd commit to him on a iron clad 3 year deal. That ensures he is here, where ever HERE will be. lol

 

[Rayman70]

I agree with Lombardi.......ZERO chance

and THIS, did we REALLY ever go to the Moon? Thats how insane ^^THE ABOVE is. I agree with Mr. Lombardi 100%.

 

[Nova]

Arguing a guy that took a 4-win team to ranked 12th in a single season and has never finished worse than 12th is overrated is rather insane.
That is a very high-level year in and year out for his entire career.
Something OU couldn't maintain once he left and USC didn't touch in the DECADE before he got there.
And it is hilarious to knock a guy for losing CFP games.
Dabo is a legend but has had his teams fall unranked.

Only a very good coach can maintain a top 10 program and Riley has done that in 2 stops.

He didn't luck into good QB play, he identified those guys and went and got them and trained them in his system.
USC is the only 4-0 team in the Pac 12 but they definitely got handled last week in non-conf by a desperate ND team.
We shall see by season's end but history shows Riley will coach them into the top 12.

Yeah I don't think you're understanding my perspective.

Do I think he's a really good coach? Absolutely. Would I trade places with him and his success? 100%, yes.

I'm just saying he's frequently talked about like he's boy wonder when his teams have had some glaring weaknesses.

Reminds me a bit of Sean Payton, tbh.

 

[exciter]

Posting goofy absolutes is just bad form.
Harbaugh was a good NFL coach coming in from Stanford.

But the reality is generally it is awful teams hiring new head coaches and they fail regardless of where they come from.
Matt Rhule is a good head coach and an NFL style program builder, but he tears it all down first and the NFL you better get a QB.
He never stood a chance.

Lincoln's best asset is he develops QBs.
He's only coached Kyler, Jalen, Baker and now the obvious 1st overall next year.
And in the NFL you better get QB right.
I think Brian Daboll is a really good coach but he is likely getting fired because of Danny Dimes and loss fatigue.

The NFL takes freely and widely from the college game which takes freely and widely from High School and then the reverse filters down.
Good is good and it can promote up.

NFL assistants fail at shocking rates too.

The top 5-6 guys stay in place a decade plus and everything else is a flush cycle.

Meyer, Kingsbury, Saban, Spurrier etc etc!
But hey, it’ll work this time!

 

[Redsfan_83]

Not a chance. Giving ownership to coaches and particularly players is not something the vast majority of owners would ever do. Not sure what owner would daré go down that road due the iré of other owners. Way worse as far as they are concerned than the Watson guarenteed contract.

entitled athletes/agents nowadays...if this is how the kid is going to make his entry into the NFL I wish him nothing but lack of success

 

[Motorola]

Meyer, Kingsbury, Saban, Spurrier etc etc!
But hey, it’ll work this time!

"One of These Things (Is Not Like the Others)"
Meyer, Saban, Spurrier as college coaches___outstanding winning records \ percentages, numerous college conference titles ---
and each has coached a team to a national championship.

Kingsbury: 6 seasons as head coach - all at Texas Tech____
Two winning seasons...8-5 1st year, 7-6 3rd year; the other four____
4-8, 5-7, 6-7, 5-7; bowl record___1-2; overall ---- 35-40.
Yes Meyer, Saban, and Spurrier failed in the NFL - but their work and accomplishments in the NCAA were worthy of a hire in the league.

Kingsbury ----- RIDICULOUS he was granted the opportunity.

 

[Motorola]

Smart man. USC is a sinking ship without the pac 10 to dominate. What a great package for some lucky team.

Riley is yellow.
OU going to the SEC - jumped ship to Southern Cal.
BUT NOW - with USC joining the Big Ten (12-14-18...whatever the number of teams it winds up to be) - the college "guru-wunderkind" is planning on bailing out of another power 5 program without accomplishing very much.

 

[atlantacowboy]

Riley is yellow.
OU going to the SEC - jumped ship to Southern Cal.
BUT NOW - with USC joining the Big Ten (12-14-18...whatever the number of teams it winds up to be) - the college "guru-wunderkind" is planning on bailing out of another power 5 program without accomplishing very much.

His accomplishments are the QBs he produces for the NFL. Nobody thought Jalen Hurts had any shot of being an NFL QB before he got to OU. He took Mayfield from a Texas Tech washout to the top pick in the draft. Kyler Murray is another one. Now he got Caleb Williams who is a lock to be the top pick in the draft. That is quite a QB development record.

 

[Motorola]

His accomplishments are the QBs he produces for the NFL. Nobody thought Jalen Hurts had any shot of being an NFL QB before he got to OU. He took Mayfield from a Texas Tech washout to the top pick in the draft. Kyler Murray is another one. Now he got Caleb Williams who is a lock to be the top pick in the draft. That is quite a QB development record.

Will give him that.
Riley just needs to be in the QB coach \ offensive coordinator role if he wants to move up to the NFL.
Being a head coach --- NO.

 

[jterrell]

Yeah I don't think you're understanding my perspective.

Do I think he's a really good coach? Absolutely. Would I trade places with him and his success? 100%, yes.

I'm just saying he's frequently talked about like he's boy wonder when his teams have had some glaring weaknesses.

Reminds me a bit of Sean Payton, tbh.

I get that USC has flaws and OU teams also had weaknesses on defense.
They have been so good on offense they drive to the top 12 yearly anyway.

But I also get that only 3 coaches in NCAA can say they have been D1 head coaches the last 7 years with 6 straight top 12 post season AP poll finishes.
Saban, Smart and Riley. And only Riley has done so with 2 different programs.

I am not calling for Riley to Dallas but if he truly wants his shot some NFL team will give it to him and he is as likely as anyone getting their first NFL head coaching job to succeed.
You'd be hard-pressed to find a more valuable skill than identifying and elevating the QB.
That is why Andy Reid is winning Super Bowls.
If you are a bottom 10 team than a Caleb/Riley package is like manna from heaven.

 

[jterrell]

Riley is yellow.
OU going to the SEC - jumped ship to Southern Cal.
BUT NOW - with USC joining the Big Ten (12-14-18...whatever the number of teams it winds up to be) - the college "guru-wunderkind" is planning on bailing out of another power 5 program without accomplishing very much.

rofl. dudes just post complete and total nonsense.
Riley left Oklahoma to move to Malibu TWO YEARS before they join the SEC.
As virtually any human being would do.

And he is putting out feelers about going to the NFL WITH his prodigy QB.

You can use your brain and not post goofy stuff. Riley's job selections are ever more pressurized not easier.

Guy is supposedly scared of mediocre Big 10 yet joins NFL? Pure Comedy.

 

[joseephuss]

But I also get that only 3 coaches in NCAA can say they have been D1 head coaches the last 7 years with 6 straight top 12 post season AP poll finishes.
Saban, Smart and Riley. And only Riley has done so with 2 different programs.
.

I wouldn't want any of those 3 as an NFL head coach.

 

[Nova]

I get that USC has flaws and OU teams also had weaknesses on defense.
They have been so good on offense they drive to the top 12 yearly anyway.

But I also get that only 3 coaches in NCAA can say they have been D1 head coaches the last 7 years with 6 straight top 12 post season AP poll finishes.
Saban, Smart and Riley. And only Riley has done so with 2 different programs.

I am not calling for Riley to Dallas but if he truly wants his shot some NFL team will give it to him and he is as likely as anyone getting their first NFL head coaching job to succeed.
You'd be hard-pressed to find a more valuable skill than identifying and elevating the QB.
That is why Andy Reid is winning Super Bowls.
If you are a bottom 10 team than a Caleb/Riley package is like manna from heaven.

Respect

I think we just have a different view on the guy's work and a difference in perspectives of how he's viewed.

 

[Nova]

His accomplishments are the QBs he produces for the NFL. Nobody thought Jalen Hurts had any shot of being an NFL QB before he got to OU. He took Mayfield from a Texas Tech washout to the top pick in the draft. Kyler Murray is another one. Now he got Caleb Williams who is a lock to be the top pick in the draft. That is quite a QB development record.

I think he deserves credit for maximizing those QBs output, but it should also be acknowledged that...

A.) With the exception of Mayfield, those guys were already special.
B.) The environment and level of competition is also a factor in their success

Jalen Hurts is a good case study. Hurts was good enough to lead Alabama to two Nat Championship appearances before being benched for Tua. He was elevated at Oklahoma, posting, by far, his best year in 2019.

However, in the playoffs against LSU the same year, he was subpar.

Admittedly, that's a small sample size so you can't really draw any conclusions there-- But was Hurts actually better or was he just destroying a much softer conference?

 

[Motorola]

rofl. dudes just post complete and total nonsense.
Riley left Oklahoma to move to Malibu TWO YEARS before they join the SEC.
As virtually any human being would do.

And he is putting out feelers about going to the NFL WITH his prodigy QB.

You can use your brain and not post goofy stuff. Riley's job selections are ever more pressurized not easier.

Guy is supposedly scared of mediocre Big 10 yet joins NFL? Pure Comedy.

What has his teams won - other than a conference title or two - t make him a hot NFL HC candidate?

 

[Motorola]

I get that USC has flaws and OU teams also had weaknesses on defense.
They have been so good on offense they drive to the top 12 yearly anyway.

But I also get that only 3 coaches in NCAA can say they have been D1 head coaches the last 7 years with 6 straight top 12 post season AP poll finishes.
Saban, Smart and Riley. And only Riley has done so with 2 different programs.
Saban - 7 national championships with two different programs (1- LSU, 6- Bama)
Smart- two consecutive national championships with UGA - and well on his way for a chance to win three straight.
Riley- 0-3 in CFP appearances with Oklahoma

 

[nightrain]

Great, another college HC coach who is facing long odds to do anything in the NFL.

 

[gtb1943]

What has his teams won - other than a conference title or two - t make him a hot NFL HC candidate?

Just being excellent at developing QBs does not a successful NFL coach make.

 

[Whyjerry]

I like McCarthy but say he flames out this season, would y’all want to go after Lincoln Riley?

What has he done? Runs one sided teams with laughable defenses. A total media creation. No way.