Linehan at Valley Ranch; Close to 'Done Deal'

[LatinMind]

Did they ever say *why* this was happening? Was Ryan mad at Henderson or something? What was the reason behind all this?

They didnt know, they said they just know they were communicating during meetings.

 

[jterrell]

various:
This is a good hire if they let Linehan truly alter and call the offense.
Also a good hire if Garrett gets to choose his OC in his high noon moment.
If this fails they all go away.

Rob Ryan was a good coach here.
He had a terribly injured defense and it failed miserably.
Ironic that the same folks who defend him now so harshly say injuries mean nothing.

Callahan. This is all pure speculation. Not a single on the record comment from anyone.
It is pure silliness for Jerry to pay Callahan to do nothing.
If Callahan didn't have a value Jerry's not gonna just throw dollars at him to kidnap him from the cleveland friggin browns.
Get out of here with that stupidity.
As was reported before the most fake NFL insider ever (Rappoport for those following) Cleveland is in a terrible state and can't get anyone to take a job there so every role has been tough to fill.
Callahan likely prefers staying in Dallas and shopping next year when tons of staffs will be rebuilt to locking himself into some 3 year deal in cleveland with little offensive talent.

 

[LatinMind]

People have been crying about Callahan and this offense this past yr. Dallas signs a guy who is a vertical pass guy has success with his offenses, and keep callahan because he is a very good OL coach. And people cry about this. Go figure

 

[LatinMind]

various:
This is a good hire if they let Linehan truly alter and call the offense.
Also a good hire if Garrett gets to choose his OC in his high noon moment.
If this fails they all go away.

Rob Ryan was a good coach here.
He had a terribly injured defense and it failed miserably.
Ironic that the same folks who defend him now so harshly say injuries mean nothing.

Callahan. This is all pure speculation. Not a single on the record comment from anyone.
It is pure silliness for Jerry to pay Callahan to do nothing.
If Callahan didn't have a value Jerry's not gonna just throw dollars at him to kidnap him from the cleveland friggin browns.
Get out of here with that stupidity.
As was reported before the most fake NFL insider ever (Rappoport for those following) Cleveland is in a terrible state and can't get anyone to take a job there so every role has been tough to fill.
Callahan likely prefers staying in Dallas and shopping next year when tons of staffs will be rebuilt to locking himself into some 3 year deal in cleveland with little offensive talent.

You pair Gordon Cameron with Manziel and Evans thats a very good offense

 

[bayeslife]

We will have an offensive coordinator for every down, so that Romo can ignore playcalling for multiple people now.

 

[Risen Star]

You ever see Bruce Almighty? When Jim Carrey as Bruce is hearing all the different prayer voices in his head and can't make any of them out as they're all talking over each other?

That's Romo this year in between plays.

 

[Boys122]

You ever see Bruce Almighty? When Jim Carrey as Bruce is hearing all the different prayer voices in his head and can't make any of them out as they're all talking over each other?

That's Romo this year in between plays.

Ha ha ha.

 

[morasp]

Didn't Detroit have that tall rookie tight end that caught all those touchdowns? That added to the new tight ends coach we just hired and next year could be a break out year for Escobar

 

[Miller]

So let's be objective here.

In the 11 previous years Linehan has had just 2 Top 10 rushing attacks...Minnesota in 2002 and 2003. With the Lions...24, 23, 29, 23 and 17.

After the Lions 2012 season there were rumor he would be fired because of these things..development of Stafford and settling for FGs

http://www.prideofdetroit.com/2012/12/24/3801584/detroit-lions-rumors-scott-linehan-pat-shurmur

Although the Lions offense has produced a record year for Calvin Johnson, overall it has been pretty ineffective. Matthew Stafford has seemingly taken a step back in his development, and the Lions have failed to produce touchdowns on a consistent basis. Having to settle for field goals on a regular basis has cost the Lions at least a few games this season, and fair or not, the blame has been placed on Linehan for that

This past year the offense failed down the stretch in second halfs and they lost 7 of 9 games where they blew leads with offense being ineffective.

Their vertical game also consisted of one Calvin Johnson out jumping a lot of dudes.

So what is the improvement here?

 

[jobberone]

who said the team was moving in the right direction? That's such a vague copout. It's literally like any move = going in the right direction.

And it's not about Callahan acting professionally. It's not that he doesn't like linehan. The issue is that Callahan was the offensive coordinator who was the play caller installed by Jerry. He's now getting demoted, but not getting fired, and it sounds like the communication dysfunction is affecting him. If your management doesn't act professionally then I can understand being upset, and really all bets are off at that point.

I say its moving in the right direction. And I'm generally right about player development. I don't always like what I see but I almost always take a measured response to it. I'm certain we're going in the right direction but don't expect every move to be right. And certainly don't think every move is wrong.

I didn't say Callahan was acting unprofessionally. It was a general statement about getting along with your colleagues. He'll still be the OC but he'll have help with game planning and I don't care who calls the plays as long as it works although I admit he may. My guess is he'll do his job and continue to develop the OL and make a major input into the run game. He'll also have input into the overall game plan. Let's wait until this time next year to evaluate it.

People are forgetting all the whining and crying about the OL. I caught hell and worse about Free and Mack and they got that working.

 

[jobberone]

So let's be objective here.

In the 11 previous years Linehan has had just 2 Top 10 rushing attacks...Minnesota in 2002 and 2003. With the Lions...24, 23, 29, 23 and 17.

After the Lions 2012 season there were rumor he would be fired because of these things..development of Stafford and settling for FGs

http://www.prideofdetroit.com/2012/12/24/3801584/detroit-lions-rumors-scott-linehan-pat-shurmur



This past year the offense failed down the stretch in second halfs and they lost 7 of 9 games where they blew leads with offense being ineffective.

Their vertical game also consisted of one Calvin Johnson out jumping a lot of dudes.

So what is the improvement here?

Linehan is Garrett's guy and they know each other well. If it works then great. If not then they'll have to reevaluate.

 

[Gaede]

It really won't make a difference. They could've hired anyone. This team will still be 8-8 next year

 

[jterrell]

So let's be objective here.

In the 11 previous years Linehan has had just 2 Top 10 rushing attacks...Minnesota in 2002 and 2003. With the Lions...24, 23, 29, 23 and 17.

After the Lions 2012 season there were rumor he would be fired because of these things..development of Stafford and settling for FGs

http://www.prideofdetroit.com/2012/12/24/3801584/detroit-lions-rumors-scott-linehan-pat-shurmur



This past year the offense failed down the stretch in second halfs and they lost 7 of 9 games where they blew leads with offense being ineffective.

Their vertical game also consisted of one Calvin Johnson out jumping a lot of dudes.

So what is the improvement here?

It certainly looks like much the same guy as we have already except that he was a Saban guy and Garrett mentor.

But it really is about the talent you field.
Detroit drafted RBs that got injured or were terrible.
They improved 6 spots in rushing this year largely due to signing Reggie Bush.

I really dont want another old dude coordinator with his largest success tied to last decade but it is what it is and this is about 1 season.

Let Garrett have whatever he wants and let's roll.
If it fails he's gonna get axed so let him go out on his terms this final season.

 

[TheRomoSexual]

So let's be objective here.

In the 11 previous years Linehan has had just 2 Top 10 rushing attacks...Minnesota in 2002 and 2003. With the Lions...24, 23, 29, 23 and 17.

After the Lions 2012 season there were rumor he would be fired because of these things..development of Stafford and settling for FGs

http://www.prideofdetroit.com/2012/12/24/3801584/detroit-lions-rumors-scott-linehan-pat-shurmur



This past year the offense failed down the stretch in second halfs and they lost 7 of 9 games where they blew leads with offense being ineffective.

Their vertical game also consisted of one Calvin Johnson out jumping a lot of dudes.

So what is the improvement here?

Look past the numbers and/or actually watch Lions games. As I posted in another thread, the Lions only ran 40% of the time, but the backs were targeted on over 50% of their plays. Their RBs combined for nearly 3000 yards from the line of scrimmage. It's not all about simply handing off.

 

[DBOY3141]

It really won't make a difference. They could've hired anyone. This team will still be 8-8 next year

Take a look at the schedule....they will be lucky to get to 8-8. I have my fingers crossed but on paper 2014 doesn't look good.

 

[casmith07]

Look past the numbers and/or actually watch Lions games. As I posted in another thread, the Lions only ran 40% of the time, but the backs were targeted on over 50% of their plays. Their RBs combined for nearly 3000 yards from the line of scrimmage. It's not all about simply handing off.

You have an uphill climb trying to convince Zoners not to look at things in a vacuum. Romo is head and shoulders knees and toes better than Stafford, our WR corps as a whole is better than Detroit's, and the running back situation is a question mark because I think Bush/Bell is a pretty good tandem.

Problems in Detroit were related to the head coach, mediocre/inconsistent QB play, and a lack of skill position player development outside of Calvin Johnson. I think with more tools in Dallas, and with a cooperative philosophy, we'll see more consistent game-planning and smarter or more "flowy" play-calling during games.

Hope for the best, right?

 

[Miller]

Look past the numbers and/or actually watch Lions games. As I posted in another thread, the Lions only ran 40% of the time, but the backs were targeted on over 50% of their plays. Their RBs combined for nearly 3000 yards from the line of scrimmage. It's not all about simply handing off.

I did watch a lot of Lions games. The point being we had a back last year that was one of the tops in the league in yards per carry and we underutilized him. The Lions used the backs the way they did because they had to get it out of Staffords hands. In the long run, their lack of a running game hurt them when they lost leads because teams adjusted at half. Sounds familiar is all.

 

[Miller]

It certainly looks like much the same guy as we have already except that he was a Saban guy and Garrett mentor.

But it really is about the talent you field.
Detroit drafted RBs that got injured or were terrible.
They improved 6 spots in rushing this year largely due to signing Reggie Bush.

I really dont want another old dude coordinator with his largest success tied to last decade but it is what it is and this is about 1 season.

Let Garrett have whatever he wants and let's roll.
If it fails he's gonna get axed so let him go out on his terms this final season.

This I agree with. If it's Garrett guy a he gets to pick him...fine. See if it works. It is a make or break year...I think. I just wanted to point out some stat that showed tha we may not be getting this upgraded offense since they had some very similar issues in converting TDs and second half issues. I would hope he would use a better RB. Though there is no guarantee on Murray's health either.

 

[Idgit]

This whole thread is mostly an issue because fans attach to much importance to who's calling plays. Otherwise, we've hired a new coach who's going to be on par with Callahan in the offensive pecking order for a year. If Garrett gets extended, Linehan is probably the OC going forward and Callahan has a year to work his network if he wants more responsibility. If he likes the staff and the job, he may elect to say.

All these guys know the drill in the NFL. This is not unique to the Cowboys, and it's small potatoes as far as massaging sore egos might go. It's basically a non-issue.

Meanwhile, the defense still sucks and is going to get worse before it can get any better.

 

[LatinMind]

This whole thread is mostly an issue because fans attach to much importance to who's calling plays. Otherwise, we've hired a new coach who's going to be on par with Callahan in the offensive pecking order for a year. If Garrett gets extended, Linehan is probably the OC going forward and Callahan has a year to work his network if he wants more responsibility. If he likes the staff and the job, he may elect to say.

All these guys know the drill in the NFL. This is not unique to the Cowboys, and it's small potatoes as far as massaging sore egos might go. It's basically a non-issue.

Meanwhile, the defense still sucks and is going to get worse before it can get any better.

I think this yr was a rock bottom. I believe the team will dedicate to the DL just like they dedicated the last 2 RD1 picks to OL and the OL is pretty solid right now.