Linehan is the real MVP

Dave_in-NC said:
Why do people keep saying this? They were a decent run blocking line. Ask Romo if they could pass protect.
This is a complete offensive line. That's what makes them so good.
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Just running the ball makes you better pass blockers because the D has to defend both aspects, plus the OL aren't on their heels all game.

It's funny how some people want to claim the clock struck midnight and this OL suddenly went from lousy to unstoppable. It was really good last year.

I guess some don't want to admit that because it means Linehan gets credit and not Garrett?
 
Build good/great OL : check

Remove Garrett from offensive game planning : check

Hire competent OC: check

Presto we have a good and consistent offense

Waiting for Garrett supporters and romo haters to come eat some crow
 
Chocolate Lab said:
Just running the ball makes you better pass blockers because the D has to defend both aspects, plus the OL aren't on their heels all game.

It's funny how some people want to claim the clock struck midnight and this OL suddenly went from lousy to unstoppable. It was really good last year.

I guess some don't want to admit that because it means Linehan gets credit and not Garrett?
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I just don't see it that way. I understand that having the D just pin their ears and go kills the line but this is a much more effective group than was on the field as a whole than last season. JMOP.
 
Chocolate Lab said:
Just running the ball makes you better pass blockers because the D has to defend both aspects, plus the OL aren't on their heels all game.

It's funny how some people want to claim the clock struck midnight and this OL suddenly went from lousy to unstoppable. It was really good last year.

I guess some don't want to admit that because it means Linehan gets credit and not Garrett?
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Exactly.

I liken Playcalling and actually looking and executing mismatches to pitchers and catchers.

In some cases, calling the right game makes the pitchers great.
In othe cases, so e pitchers overpower and beat you.

We were the latter in the 90s... Now we need to be the former.
 
Chocolate Lab said:
Just running the ball makes you better pass blockers because the D has to defend both aspects, plus the OL aren't on their heels all game.

It's funny how some people want to claim the clock struck midnight and this OL suddenly went from lousy to unstoppable. It was really good last year.

I guess some don't want to admit that because it means Linehan gets credit and not Garrett?
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It's not that simple and Garrett has as much to do with things as do the other O coaches. They could run block reasonably well last year but they still had trouble in short yardage situations more than one would like. Also, there were problems with the pass protection and there still is. Both are better.

It is the ability to run that is keeping the defense honest and on its heels. That helps the pass blocking which in itself has gotten better. It's behind the run blocking but that's normal esp for a young line.

Linehan has brought some freshness but part of his success is the playbook is now virtually wide open. We're running screens in the first time since forever and doing it pretty well. In the past they tried screens and they sucked. That's execution. You are seeing the RBs more involved in the passing game including from the slot and in motion. We're running sprint outs and wheel routes etc. That's part Linehan and part the ability for the players to finally execute.

Garrett did give up at times on the run game but you still have to factor in the fact that defense was half scrubs last year and couldn't stop squat. I'd have wanted to pass more. You're still seeing us pass because that is more effective in scoring more points. But it's easier to pass when you can run. All this dovetails into each other.

There is no grand conspiracy to protect or defend Garrett. In fact there still exists some need to blame Garrett even when the team is obviously so much better than the recent past; as in since 2007 the first three quarters of that year.
 
jobberone said:
It's not that simple and Garrett has as much to do with things as do the other O coaches. They could run block reasonably well last year but they still had trouble in short yardage situations more than one would like.
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LOL. No he doesn't. He doesn't have as much to do with it as the OC who introduced new things and is actually calling the game.

Linehan has brought some freshness but part of his success is the playbook is now virtually wide open.
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So the playbook suddenly opens right when one new element is introduced into the equation after the last eight years... But it's not the new element that gets the credit. I guess that's just coincidence.

Matt Mosley was talking to Jerry in the "walk off" after the game the other night, and he said Jerry told them that basically, Linehan was the first coach in years who when he told Tony "Stop doing that", Tony listened.

I guess we can look at the evidence, or we can believe like jbell said that Zack Martin is the next Larry Allen x 10 and can do the work of 5 men.
 
REDVOLUTION said:
Exactly.

I liken Playcalling and actually looking and executing mismatches to pitchers and catchers.

In some cases, calling the right game makes the pitchers great.
In othe cases, so e pitchers overpower and beat you.

We were the latter in the 90s... Now we need to be the former.
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Yeah it's all one coach that's made the difference. Some of you have this unsettling need to assess blame and in particular the coaches. It's so much more often the players executing and it's been that way since they started playing this game. I'm not absolving the coaches just placing more of the responsibilities of playing well where it belongs. It's clear that coaching has its own impact on the game as well so don't get me wrong.
 
Linehan is doing a great job, all off season all I heard was he would not run the ball my feelings then and now is he will use the weapons he has at his disposal. We all know he can run a passing offense and has those weapons as well and should only be a big benefit as more teams will start to focus on the Cowboys run game. This is going to allow a lot more opportunities to hit big plays down field.
 
jobberone said:
Yeah it's all one coach that's made the difference. Some of you have this unsettling need to assess blame and in particular the coaches. It's so much more often the players executing and it's been that way since they started playing this game. I'm not absolving the coaches just placing more of the responsibilities of playing well where it belongs. It's clear that coaching has its own impact on the game as well so don't get me wrong.
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No. Never said that.

But a smart coach will put players in a position to win some of their battles.
Trying to impose players and plays on opposing defenses won't work consistently nowadays.
Need to be unpredictable and calculating.
 
jobberone said:
Yeah it's all one coach that's made the difference. Some of you have this unsettling need to assess blame and in particular the coaches. It's so much more often the players executing and it's been that way since they started playing this game. I'm not absolving the coaches just placing more of the responsibilities of playing well where it belongs. It's clear that coaching has its own impact on the game as well so don't get me wrong.
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What's been missing is the talented players to execute the plan. I think on O, especially the line we now have the pieces. Even free is looking a little better.
 
Chocolate Lab said:
LOL. No he doesn't. He doesn't have as much to do with it as the OC who introduced new things and is actually calling the game.



So the playbook suddenly opens right when one new element is introduced into the equation after the last eight years... But it's not the new element that gets the credit. I guess that's just coincidence.

Matt Mosley was talking to Jerry in the "walk off" after the game the other night, and he said Jerry told them that basically, Linehan was the first coach in years who when he told Tony "Stop doing that", Tony listened.

I guess we can look at the evidence, or we can believe like jbell said that Zack Martin is the next Larry Allen x 10 and can do the work of 5 men.
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It's the players for the vast amount of any difference on grass. Always has been and always will. But sure Linehan has brought something. But his job is so much easier when he has a consistent run game esp one that can run well in short yardage. We're running well in power plays as well as on the corner and with zone blocking. When's the last time you saw us have a power game and holes up the middle this consistently. Murray ran for good average last year but there is a big difference in how well this team is running IN GENERAL compared even to last year.

Again the coaches didn't go from idiots to geniuses overnight. And Linehan didn't go from being able to NOT run the ball in Det to being able to here because he suddenly became a coaching whiz. And yes he is a valuable addition to the team. Just don't say it's all him thank God Garrett/Callahan yada isn't calling plays.
 
Dave_in-NC said:
What's been missing is the talented players to execute the plan. I think on O, especially the line we now have the pieces. Even free is looking a little better.
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I agree, watching NO send a blitz and just get stoned walled at the line was great. Romo could look and see the 1 on 1 and attack it. When BP was here he talked about getting to a point where you hoped the defense would send the blitz. Took a long time but I like it when the defense tries to blitz the Cowboys. :)
 
Doomsday101 said:
I agree, watching NO send a blitz and just get stoned walled at the line was great. Romo could look and see the 1 on 1 and attack it. When BP was here he talked about getting to a point where you hoped the defense would send the blitz. Took a long time but I like it when the defense tries to blitz the Cowboys. :)
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It is refreshing to see the D set up to blitz and not worry if it's the last hit Romo is going to take. Looks like his jersey will stay some what cleaner this season.
 
REDVOLUTION said:
No. Never said that.

But a smart coach will put players in a position to win some of their battles.
Trying to impose players and plays on opposing defenses won't work consistently nowadays.
Need to be unpredictable and calculating.
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And you can do that when teams have to game your running game as well as try to stop Romo and gang. The playbook is complete. NO tried to take away the run and make Romo beat them. As soon as Romo made them back off the LOS and play balanced defense the run game took off and we were off to the races. I think Linehan has definitely brought something to the team but to think he's the reason we look so good on offense finally negates the major influence of the players executing.

The MVP of the team so far, IMO, is the OL.
 
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