List of 2025 Free agent QBs ( Backup for Dak)

Aerolithe_Lion

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Cherry picking.
We could go back 2019, but then players who were in college skew the comparison; Tua, Joe, Jalen. Players in the nfl in 2019:

Kyler played a full season

Aaron played a full season

Lamar missed 1 game, MVP

Stafford missed 8 to get to 18

Daniel Jones missed 2 games


If we go back another year, Kyler and Dak’s closest injury buddy, Daniel, are not in the NFL. Stafford played a full season in 2018, as did Aaron, and Dak is still the clubhouse leader. At some point we’re comparing 25 yo Dak Prescott, and that doesn’t really prove whether or not a good backup is valuable as he gets further into his 30’s. We begin cherry picking the opposite direction.

2020 is 5 years ago and all QBs are active, it is the appropriate middle ground.
 

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We could go back 2019, but then players who were in college skew the comparison; Tua, Joe, Jalen. Players in the nfl in 2019:

Kyler played a full season

Aaron played a full season

Lamar missed 1 game, MVP

Stafford missed 8 to get to 18

Daniel Jones missed 2 games


If we go back another year, Kyler and Dak’s closest injury buddy, Daniel, are not in the NFL. Stafford played a full season in 2018, as did Aaron, and Dak is still the clubhouse leader. At some point we’re comparing 25 yo Dak Prescott, and that doesn’t really prove whether or not a good backup is valuable as he gets further into his 30’s. We begin cherry picking the opposite direction.

2020 is 5 years ago and all QBs are active, it is the appropriate middle ground.
The only accurate measurement is the entirety of their careers, otherwise fans lean one way or the other.
 

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The only accurate measurement is the entirety of their careers, otherwise fans lean one way or the other.
Whether or not Dak was healthy at 22 has no bearing on the injury issues he’s had at 27-31.

Do you look at Zach Martin and say he’s fine, because if you average out what he is now to what he was in his early 20’s he still averages out to be an All-Pro who’s almost always healthy? So offer him 25m a year? No, because what he was at 23 is not what he is now. Talent level, injury concerns, everything evolves as the player ages.

Not signing a better backup now because “Dak missing 0 games in 2016 shows he’s very durable” is not the right away to evaluate the situation.
 
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Fields 4-2 in Pittsburgh this year . Can actually scramble not just go down in a pile of dust .

Based on some pre season play Trey Lance is hard to evaluate .

In todays NFL isn’t it important the QB can escape the pocket and extend plays . Fields is young . And I would still go after a Jaxson Dart if round 3 he is still sitting there .

Totally clear out the QB room from this yr the two back ups should move on .
 

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LOL... yeah, it was an issue, but he's still throwing interceptions at critical times. I mean, Jamise can play like a top quarterback at times, but my goodness, he's an interception waiting to happen.
Yea, but look at the talents of those playing Wide receiver for the Browns. They all suck. They have a decent tight end, but he runs bad routes quite often.
 

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Whether or not Dak was healthy at 22 has no bearing on the injury issues he’s had at 27-31.

Do you look at Zach Martin and say he’s fine, because if you average out what he is now to what he was in his early 20’s he still averages out to be an All-Pro who’s almost always healthy? So offer him 25m a year? No, because what he was at 23 is not what he is now. Talent level, injury concerns, everything evolves as the player ages.

Not signing a better backup now because “Dak missing 0 games in 2016 shows he’s very durable” is not the right away to evaluate the situation.
You're exactly right but it doesn't matter in this case.

If you're not carrying water for Dak and twisting all the numbers and stats to prop Dak up, he's going to dismiss your analysis as "biased".

Quit wasting your time.

Your point was well made and accurate. Nothing more you can do here
 

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You're exactly right but it doesn't matter in this case.

If you're not carrying water for Dak and twisting all the numbers and stats to prop Dak up, he's going to dismiss your analysis as "biased".

Quit wasting your time.

Your point was well made and accurate. Nothing more you can do here
I couldn't care less who's the starter. All I'm saying, in general is that you can conveniently use any metrics you want, but if it's not a fair comparison, than it's subjective.
 

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Whether or not Dak was healthy at 22 has no bearing on the injury issues he’s had at 27-31.

Do you look at Zach Martin and say he’s fine, because if you average out what he is now to what he was in his early 20’s he still averages out to be an All-Pro who’s almost always healthy? So offer him 25m a year? No, because what he was at 23 is not what he is now. Talent level, injury concerns, everything evolves as the player ages.

Not signing a better backup now because “Dak missing 0 games in 2016 shows he’s very durable” is not the right away to evaluate the situation.
You don't even get that you don't get it. Now Martin is factored in your scenario? Lol. No, he's not fine. I would have traded him before his last contract. Neither are ANY of the players this front office keeps until there's zero value, because of "loyalty."
 

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LOL... yeah, it was an issue, but he's still throwing interceptions at critical times. I mean, Jamise can play like a top quarterback at times, but my goodness, he's an interception waiting to happen.
We already got that

But we could dollar cost average down
1 at 60 mill
1 at 12 mill
....ave 35: not so bad then

Heck....keep Trey at 5
Ave cost in the 20's
 

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You should re-think your belief. Dak Prescott has been in the center of several quarterback controversies since day one. Any backup quarterback candidate and Prescott combination will be subject to automatic controversy.
I disagree, to avoid that, you get the worst backups in history to be there behind him so there's no worry at all of him ever playing unless there's an injury
 

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You don't even get that you don't get it. Now Martin is factored in your scenario? Lol. No, he's not fine. I would have traded him before his last contract. Neither are ANY of the players this front office keeps until there's zero value, because of "loyalty."
Yes Martin is no longer fine, that was a rhetorical question. And along that line, Dak is far more injury prone recently than he was in the first half of his career.

Backup QB is an extremely important position for the 2025 and beyond Dallas Cowboys.
 

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Yes Martin is no longer fine, that was a rhetorical question. And along that line, Dak is far more injury prone recently than he was in the first half of his career.

Backup QB is an extremely important position for the 2025 and beyond Dallas Cowboys.
Not really. I'd focus on starting caliber. A back up isn't going to help win games.
 

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Not really. I'd focus on starting caliber. A back up isn't going to help win games.
Despite what’s happening right now, what happened in 2022, and what happened in 2020?

If Dallas had a better backup they’d legitimately have a strong chance at making the playoffs. Now imagine if Dak would have been able to return for the playoffs. Thats invaluable.
 
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