List of Viable FA options to consider

[AKATheRake]

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I'm still on board for Jacoby Ford.

he would help our return game immensely while being WR depth.

 

[rwill784]

Well we're talking 1 whole side of the ball that needs to be fixed.

Not only 1 facet of the offense.

There's no way we can rebuild this defense in 1 year.

We've been trying to build our o-line up for 3 years now and we're still not finished.

The defense, especially the line will probably take just as long.

So far there's nothing to suggest that we have more talent on the defense than we did last year.

See that makes no sense, our line while it wasn't the best in the league improved by leaps and bounds. Same can be done on the defensive line. We are already adding depth which was sorely needed last year, our defense would not have been as bad had we not been signing couch potatoes and had actual nfl caliber linemen. Our defense isn't as bad as they make it out to be, a year of experience for the linebackers, and a infusion of youth on the line makes that unit better than lastyears.

 

[BAT]

Sign:

Julius Peppers/Jared Allen
Pat Chung

Trade:

Dion Jordan/Vince Wilfork>Claiborne

That's as stop gap as you get.

 

[ConstantReboot]

We drafted Frederick who everyone hated who is only looking like our Center for the next decade in his first year, Ron Leary and Mack got better, and Doug settled in at RT to create the best run blocking line in football.

And they still won't eat crow!

More like - And they still won't run the ball. LOL

 

[ConstantReboot]

See that makes no sense, our line while it wasn't the best in the league improved by leaps and bounds. Same can be done on the defensive line. We are already adding depth which was sorely needed last year, our defense would not have been as bad had we not been signing couch potatoes and had actual nfl caliber linemen. Our defense isn't as bad as they make it out to be, a year of experience for the linebackers, and a infusion of youth on the line makes that unit better than lastyears.

Take away Ware Hatcher and possibly Spencer. Then you'll see how BAD really is.

 

[AKATheRake]

See that makes no sense, our line while it wasn't the best in the league improved by leaps and bounds. Same can be done on the defensive line. We are already adding depth which was sorely needed last year, our defense would not have been as bad had we not been signing couch potatoes and had actual nfl caliber linemen. Our defense isn't as bad as they make it out to be, a year of experience for the linebackers, and a infusion of youth on the line makes that unit better than lastyears.

Our o-line is fine. It's still being worked on though and we're 3-4 years in on that.

Depth is def a good thing and we're looking at the recent signings as such. Who knows if we're going to start or rotate or whatever. But let's not act like being last in the league defensively in all kinds of categories last year is everyone making it out to be worse than it is. There was and no worse in the league at this point. We also lost 2 of our better players on defense. Had no choice from cap mismanagement.

Our talent level on defense is even lesser at this point. I don't get where you're saying what is being said from me about the defense not making sense? We're outright having to rebuild it.

 

[rwill784]

Our o-line is fine. It's still being worked on though and we're 3-4 years in on that.

Depth is def a good thing and we're looking at the recent signings as such. Who knows if we're going to start or rotate or whatever. But let's not act like being last in the league defensively in all kinds of categories last year is everyone making it out to be worse than it is. There was and no worse in the league at this point. We also lost 2 of our better players on defense. Had no choice from cap mismanagement.

Our talent level on defense is even lesser at this point. I don't get where you're saying what is being said from me about the defense not making sense? We're outright having to rebuild it.

I mean that in the sense of we finished dead last, meaning if we finish in the 15-20 range then that improvement. Same as what happened with the o line. They weren't the best in the league but they finished well above the prior year which is improvement.

I just refuse to believe that we can't go up from 32. We had bums at dt, not rotation guys but bums. We were lacking any depth and our best end was George Sylvie, ware is not a DE and Denver will find out the hard way. I love ware but he's a olb in a 34 sometimes the transition is seem less but sometimes it isn't. We are now signing actual DEs which is a plus in my book. Mincey isn't the next coming but I remember him in Jacksonville, he will be a improvement in the rotation. If we are serious about peppers and Ayers and we upgrade at dt in the draft, along with Crawford we are better on the line. The rest of the d besides Fs (I haven't given up on Wilcox/johnson) isn't too big of a concern imho, and the experience and a full season of the cover 2 is a benefit to our back 7.

I'm not saying we go from crap to being the Seahawks but defenses have been turned around in one offseason before, people here act as if Dallas is the exception because we dropped ware and hatcher.

Lol just saw the peppers signing. ******!

 

[Alexander]

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he would help our return game immensely while being WR depth.

So, you would just dismiss Harris for Jacoby Ford?

 

[rwill784]

More like - And they still won't run the ball. LOL

Lol well put

 

[Sarge]

I'm still on board for Jacoby Ford.

Hey that rhymes.

 

[visionary]

Sign Melton and Chris Clemons

Now draft smart

 

[AKATheRake]

So, you would just dismiss Harris for Jacoby Ford?

No shot but it's nice to have someone if he goes down like he did last year.

The return game dropped right off once Harris had to take time off.

Plus Ford would be decent WR depth.

 

[AKATheRake]

I mean that in the sense of we finished dead last, meaning if we finish in the 15-20 range then that improvement. Same as what happened with the o line. They weren't the best in the league but they finished well above the prior year which is improvement.

I just refuse to believe that we can't go up from 32. We had bums at dt, not rotation guys but bums. We were lacking any depth and our best end was George Sylvie, ware is not a DE and Denver will find out the hard way. I love ware but he's a olb in a 34 sometimes the transition is seem less but sometimes it isn't. We are now signing actual DEs which is a plus in my book. Mincey isn't the next coming but I remember him in Jacksonville, he will be a improvement in the rotation. If we are serious about peppers and Ayers and we upgrade at dt in the draft, along with Crawford we are better on the line. The rest of the d besides Fs (I haven't given up on Wilcox/johnson) isn't too big of a concern imho, and the experience and a full season of the cover 2 is a benefit to our back 7.

I'm not saying we go from crap to being the Seahawks but defenses have been turned around in one offseason before, people here act as if Dallas is the exception because we dropped ware and hatcher.

Lol just saw the peppers signing. ******!

I understand you can't get any worse than last but like I was saying we haven't made any improvements to the defense to suggest it's getting better.

Still have bums and rotation guys as it stands.

Ware played DE in college and yes OLB is where he excelled in the NFL but he can definitely play end if you saw the start of last season. He's not young anymore and doesn't deal with the physical rigours game in game out as well as he used to. That's the issue now with Ware as any aging player.

Johnson's done squat.

Wilcox is a work in progress. We absolutely need to get better on the d'-line and safety if we're going to improve at all on defense. Our corners have talent they just don't have any pass rush and no back end help to aid them.

 

[perrykemp]

Wilcox is a work in progress. We absolutely need to get better on the d'-line and safety if we're going to improve at all on defense. Our corners have talent they just don't have any pass rush and no back end help to aid them.

Unstated in your analysis, which I agree with, that the Cowboys have to <<HOPE>> the LBs are ok because they really can't afford to invest in them

So they have to HOPE:

• Lee manages to play more than 8 games
• Bruce Carter rebounds
• Holloman emerges

Lot of hope there. The LB corp was one of the BIG problems last season.

 

[rwill784]

I understand you can't get any worse than last but like I was saying we haven't made any improvements to the defense to suggest it's getting better.

Still have bums and rotation guys as it stands.

Ware played DE in college and yes OLB is where he excelled in the NFL but he can definitely play end if you saw the start of last season. He's not young anymore and doesn't deal with the physical rigours game in game out as well as he used to. That's the issue now with Ware as any aging player.

Johnson's done squat.

Wilcox is a work in progress. We absolutely need to get better on the d'-line and safety if we're going to improve at all on defense. Our corners have talent they just don't have any pass rush and no back end help to aid them.

Ware playing de in college means little, heck boldin was a qb in colleg

I understand you can't get any worse than last but like I was saying we haven't made any improvements to the defense to suggest it's getting better.

Still have bums and rotation guys as it stands.

Ware played DE in college and yes OLB is where he excelled in the NFL but he can definitely play end if you saw the start of last season. He's not young anymore and doesn't deal with the physical rigours game in game out as well as he used to. That's the issue now with Ware as any aging player.

Johnson's done squat.

Wilcox is a work in progress. We absolutely need to get better on the d'-line and safety if we're going to improve at all on defense. Our corners have talent they just don't have any pass rush and no back end help to aid them.

An ineffective de is a ineffective de no matter what his past was. I loved dude but he just ain't worth the money. The only player of note was hatcher and he's too old. So we just have to move on.

 

[AKATheRake]

Ware playing de in college means little, heck boldin was a qb in colleg

An ineffective de is a ineffective de no matter what his past was. I loved dude but he just ain't worth the money. The only player of note was hatcher and he's too old. So we just have to move on.

Playing DE in college means little when transitioning to DE in the pros? Lol at that statement.

Ware was not ineffective at DE in the start of the season prior to his growing list of injuries. Believe me, if he knew he can't play DE he could have gone to a 3-4 team in a heartbeat.

If Miller and Ware are healthy, they may not be. Then who do u double?

If they're both healthy, you're going to see Ware have a very productive season.

 

[AKATheRake]

Unstated in your analysis, which I agree with, that the Cowboys have to <<HOPE>> the LBs are ok because they really can't afford to invest in them

So they have to HOPE:

• Lee manages to play more than 8 games
• Bruce Carter rebounds
• Holloman emerges

Lot of hope there. The LB corp was one of the BIG problems last season.

I agree wholeheartedly with your whole post.

That's why if we took care of some of the d-line in FA like pick up Melton or someone viable I would not be opposed to taking any of the top 3 LB's with our 1st rounder. Especially if they are the BPA.

 

[rwill784]

Playing DE in college means little when transitioning to DE in the pros? Lol at that statement.

Ware was not ineffective at DE in the start of the season prior to his growing list of injuries. Believe me, if he knew he can't play DE he could have gone to a 3-4 team in a heartbeat.

If Miller and Ware are healthy, they may not be. Then who do u double?

If they're both healthy, you're going to see Ware have a very productive season.

It doesn't, look at how many players are kept at college positions only to be moved in the pros. Sometimes those moves that worked on those pimple faced teenagers don't work on the big boys every down. Not saying he can't play de just saying you took a God olb and made him a average de, arguably even below average because he stopped being doubled as much towards the mid season.

I would expect him to look better because he'll probably be on the field less and he'll get the Freeney Mathis treatment of being up most time and only having to pin his ears back and rush a team that has to pass the rest of the game.

Lets not act as if his 6 sacks and poor run support from the edge is going to be missed. He got old, it happens. But now If we get 2 ends who because they are fresh and rotate at his spot get us 5+ sacks each is that not a win for us?

 

[AKATheRake]

It doesn't, look at how many players are kept at college positions only to be moved in the pros. Sometimes those moves that worked on those pimple faced teenagers don't work on the big boys every down. Not saying he can't play de just saying you took a God olb and made him a average de, arguably even below average because he stopped being doubled as much towards the mid season.

I would expect him to look better because he'll probably be on the field less and he'll get the Freeney Mathis treatment of being up most time and only having to pin his ears back and rush a team that has to pass the rest of the game.

Lets not act as if his 6 sacks and poor run support from the edge is going to be missed. He got old, it happens. But now If we get 2 ends who because they are fresh and rotate at his spot get us 5+ sacks each is that not a win for us?

Like I said. Ware played well at DE prior to the growing list of injuries he incurred last season.

We're not going to have 3 different players on Wares 1 side notch 5 sacks each. If we did than we have statistically replaced his production, yes.

 

[rwill784]

Like I said. Ware played well at DE prior to the growing list of injuries he incurred last season.

We're not going to have 3 different players on Wares 1 side notch 5 sacks each. If we did than we have statistically replaced his production, yes.

How do you know this? Stop assuming the worst, if Mincey came here and notched 8, selvie 8, and however we draft and pick up had about 5 ware has been more than been outproduced he's been replaced