Look out Matt Jones!

WoodysGirl said:
Edit: Anyway, for those who want Roy to light him up should he come over the middle. Jones is a big boy and he won't be easy to bring down. He could very well embarass our boy, should he do one of this big hit, non-wrap up type tackles.



http://img101.*************/img101/2024/picfile8ab.jpg VS.
0412mattjones.jpg


10 bucks says our boy takes him.
 
WoodysGirl said:
I'm sure you didn't mean for it to be, but that's funny as hell... :laugh2:

Thanks guys for the definitions. I guess I knew it as the "go" route. I got it now.
Get your mind out of the gutter WG!!!! :D
 
jobberone said:
I think at the speed he travels he will carry a lot of energy with his mass. I suspect he will give as well as take.
On crackback blocks I'd agree but looking back at the ball with arms outstreched? Thats just a bullseye even Tony Dixon could hit.

If my job is to try and make them bring out the smelling slats and your job is to catch the ball I have a big advantage. Oh how I loved defense, ROFL.
 
JackMagist said:
It only works for very very fast WRs and you don't see it in the NFL a lot because there are very very fast CBs as well.


I had to respond to this because the fly is used a lot more than you're giving it credit for it's just also used often as a decoy and as a tool to stretch the field and force the defense to drop safeties to cover the deep ball.

It's used mostly with big, fast WRs and it's meant to exploit single coverage where the WR usually has a height/leaping adv over the CB. Then it's basically a calculated risk jump ball.

Of course, Moss sorta changed how much it was used since they could generally throw it over the CB and a Safety and he'd still come down with it but anyways.

Yah it's not thrown that often but it's still used because it forces the DC to keep an eye on deep situations so the Safeties can't cheat up as easily, leaving the middle of the field more open when LBs blitz or get caught in Play Action as well as underneath swings if the CB turns w/ the WR and the LB on that side blitzes or is in midzone coverage.

In case you can't tell I'm a big fan of using the Fly/Go route in lots of ways. :)
 
ndanger said:
Get your mind out of the gutter WG!!!! :D
Not quite sure what you mean... :p: Just seemed like a funny statement to make... :D
 
Harold Carmichael played a lot of years in the NFL. He was something like 6'8 and it was much more physical then, then now. If your big, fast and can catch, your going to cause problems. That's all there is to it.
 
ABQCOWBOY said:
Harold Carmichael played a lot of years in the NFL. He was something like 6'8 and it was much more physical then, then now. If your big, fast and can catch, your going to cause problems. That's all there is to it.
Carmichael was not getting hit by 230 plus pound safeties.

Call it more physical if you like but thats just the orientation of the rules not the athletes. Have you been watching all the brouhaha over the continued growth of players? They are faster and bigger all the time.

Jones may well be a good WR in the league but anyone suggesting he won't take some killer shots is fooling themselves. It would not at all suprise me to see that proven tonight alone.
 
jterrell said:
Carmichael was not getting hit by 230 plus pound safeties.

Call it more physical if you like but thats just the orientation of the rules not the athletes. Have you been watching all the brouhaha over the continued growth of players? They are faster and bigger all the time.

Jones may well be a good WR in the league but anyone suggesting he won't take some killer shots is fooling themselves. It would not at all suprise me to see that proven tonight alone.

No, he was getting close lined and speared and crowned. He was taking shots to the head every chance the DB got. He was not allowed to come down and take a step before he got hit.

He played against Cliff Harris and Steve Atwater and Donnie Shell and Ken Easily and Ken Houston and Paul Krause and Mel Renfro and Jack Tatum and Dennis Smith and David Fultcher and last but not least, Ronnie Lott. These are just the safeties.

He had the longest catch streak in the history of the game when he retired and everybody marked him every time they played him because they wanted to break the streak.

You can try to make the point that the athletes are bigger now but you will never convince me of the fact that the game is more physical now, especially for WRs, then it was then.

I'm sure Jones will take some shots because that's what RLW gets paid to do. However, we had better hope that Roy doesn't get matched up one on one with him. I think this kid will take it to the house on a safety.
 
ABQCOWBOY said:
No, he was getting close lined and speared and crowned. He was taking shots to the head every chance the DB got. He was not allowed to come down and take a step before he got hit.

He played against Cliff Harris and Steve Atwater and Donnie Shell and Ken Easily and Ken Houston and Paul Krause and Mel Renfro and Jack Tatum and Dennis Smith and David Fultcher and last but not least, Ronnie Lott. These are just the safeties.

He had the longest catch streak in the history of the game when he retired and everybody marked him every time they played him because they wanted to break the streak.

You can try to make the point that the athletes are bigger now but you will never convince me of the fact that the game is more physical now, especially for WRs, then it was then.

I'm sure Jones will take some shots because that's what RLW gets paid to do. However, we had better hope that Roy doesn't get matched up one on one with him. I think this kid will take it to the house on a safety.

He's an outside Wr not a TE so he likely wont get matched up with safeties but if Dallas plays the way they did last week and Matt Jones catches the ball underneath 31 he will wish he remained at QB.

Rules were different int he 70s and 80s so safeties and Cbs got away with a lot but they were not linebackers playing safety either. We can talk all we want about even Ronnie Lott but he was a CB moved to Safety not a LB.

There have been lots of hard hitting headhunting safeties but they didn't weigh 230+ like RW and Sean Taylor do. Not even the 6'4" Atwater.

RW is the hardest hitting safety I have seen in my lifetime. He is probably the only guy in the league that doesn't have to wrap up.
 
djdoug said:
try more like UMMMMMMMMMPPPPGGGHHHHHHHHHHH!!

Or more like, "Someone call da bambulance, the dude is all f***ed up!

Kinda like when Thiessmann went down.

Roy is going hunting!

GGRRRR!
 
fortdick said:
Or more like, "Someone call da bambulance, the dude is all f***ed up!

Kinda like when Thiessmann went down.

Roy is going hunting!

GGRRRR!


:laugh2: :laugh2: YES!!!!!
 
Fletch said:
Would not surprise me one bit to see Matt Jones get lit up by Roy Williams or Keith Davis. And I hope he does. No way he makes one-handed catches in our secondary when he knows who is lurking back there.

:angryno:

Don't they marry their sisters in Arkansas?

Huh Roy?

Roy?

:laugh2:
 
jterrell said:
RW is the hardest hitting safety I have seen in my lifetime. He is probably the only guy in the league that doesn't have to wrap up.

Spot on! It is a thing of beauty to see Roy explode into someone.
 
Banned_n_austin said:
Don't they marry their sisters in Arkansas?

Huh Roy?

Roy?

:laugh2:

If you mean what I think you mean, Roy will treat Matt like his Arkansas sister?

ROFLMAO!!!!

:laugh2: :bow:
 
I am very sure any of our Arkansas posters find this humor very distasteful and being from Oklahoma I can relate to some of your moronic statements.I know it sucks being politically correct but how bout we talk about your sister huh?Hey our owner is from Arkansas reckin' ole Jerrah pokes his sister.Disgusting! :mad:
 
when Roy hits a guy there is a distinct sound, somewhat like Clint Eastwood saying every gun makes a distinct sound. amid the buckling of shoulder pads during one of his explosive pops you can sometimes make out the receivers breath all leaving his body at once - kinda like BOOOWOOF!!!!! and like Tuco, Clint's buddy in the Good Bad & Ugly said, "the bigger they are, the more noise they make when they hit the ground." height of the receiver doesn't mean much either, when they find themselves looking up at the hole in the roof...
 
Hoods said:
10 bucks says our boy takes him.

No doubt. Not good to bet against Roy.

Screw that this is just a preseason game...let’s send the Jags out limping and with their tail between their legs. We already lead the league in lowest points allowed.
 
followthestar said:
when Roy hits a guy there is a distinct sound, somewhat like Clint Eastwood saying every gun makes a distinct sound. amid the buckling of shoulder pads during one of his explosive pops you can sometimes make out the receivers breath all leaving his body at once - kinda like BOOOWOOF!!!!! and like Tuco, Clint's buddy in the Good Bad & Ugly said, "the bigger they are, the more noise they make when they hit the ground." height of the receiver doesn't mean much either, when they find themselves looking up at the hole in the roof...


Right on!:hammer:
 

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