Look what it would have cost Raiders | McFadden agrees to contract *Merge*

[khiladi]

That contract is just ridicilous, the rookie pay scale is way out of control.

More along the lines of Al Davis being out of control...

 

[Doomsday101]

More along the lines of Al Davis being out of control...

Mr. Davis has mega dollars invested in 2 players who have shown nothing as of yet in Russell and now DMAC that does not leave much pie for the rest of the members of that team.

 

[starfrombirth]

If he keeps spending like this, it will definately come back to bite him in the arse.

 

[31smackdown]

Seriously.. I thought the Cowboys were going to run out of money.. where are all these 10 million/year contracts coming from? D.Hall, that Dlineman guy(I can even remember his name), Jamarcus, McFadden..

I guess it's not all guaranteed and can be restructured down the road.. but still.

 

[gazmc_06]

It is a disgrace how much rookie's make, you can be a total flop and still earn the same as the elite players. First Russel get's similar money to Brady then McFadden get's similar money to LT...disgrace.

 

[Ren]

I know this don't sounds pretty terrible but does anyone think Davis will live long enough to see the cap backlash of all these moves?

 

[TwoCentPlain]

Al Davis and the Raiders are spending approx 17% of their cap on two players at key positions who haven't played a meaningful down in the NFL yet in Russell and McFadden. And Russell is now 270 pounds and only had one good year in college.

It would be hilarious if Michael Bush beats McFadden out as the starting RB in Oak.

 

[Deep_Freeze]

I see it this way: 1) He put himself in a position to be taken that high. 2) This isn't Basketball or Baseball - guys get hurt and they don't have guaranteed contracts.

If the owners want a rookie pay scale the trade-off is likely fully guaranteed deals.

This is my prospective, one that fans don't see as much. You make the players give up big money if they are great when they are young with a rookie pay scale, you have to give them something, like guaranteed contracts.

If you want to talk vets, ask them if they would want guaranteed contracts. Take away their money early, and still not give them guaranteed contracts and your asking for a strike......I would if I were them.

 

[Doomsday101]

This is my prospective, one that fans don't see as much. You make the players give up big money if they are great when they are young with a rookie pay scale, you have to give them something, like guaranteed contracts.

If you want to talk vets, ask them if they would want guaranteed contracts. Take away their money early, and still not give them guaranteed contracts and your asking for a strike......I would if I were them.

Most don't have a problem with a vet getting the money, they went out and earned it the rookies have not done anything at all. They played college ball and no one knows what these rookies will do. Even the Vets in the NFL are not thrilled at what these rookies are getting at least according to what they have been saying on the NFL Network. I do see this being addressed in the next deal between the owners and players.

 

[Deep_Freeze]

Most don't have a problem with a vet getting the money, they went out and earned it the rookies have not done anything at all. They played college ball and no one knows what these rookies will do. Even the Vets in the NFL are not thrilled at what these rookies are getting at least according to what they have been saying on the NFL Network. I do see this being addressed in the next deal between the owners and players.

Thats not the point I was making, you take away money from the players you have to give him something back. If we do a rookie scale, are we just going to assume that extra money will go to vets?? What kinda guarantee do vets have that it will happen.....they have none and can get hurt easier playing this game than others.

Take money away from rookies...wooohooo, now what do the players (vets included) get in return.

 

[big dog cowboy]

I'm very glad we got Felix at 22 instead of shippnig our draft picks to someone and pay that kind of money to D-Mac.

 

[Doomsday101]

Thats not the point I was making, you take away money from the players you have to give him something back. If we do a rookie scale, are we just going to assume that extra money will go to vets?? What kinda guarantee do vets have that it will happen.....they have none and can get hurt easier playing this game than others.

Take money away from rookies...wooohooo, now what do the players (vets included) get in return.

As I said I think this will be something the Owners and Players will need to work out. However right now to see Rookies getting paid elite money is ridicules no matter how you cut it and the Vet players know that as well.

 

[sago1]

If we had moved up to grab McFadden, it would have cost us big time in draft picks & in cap money. We couldn't have afforded to keep MBIII once he became a FA & I'd also be concerned if we could afford keep Ware.

 

[Rampage]

atleast he's gonna be rich while playing in that hell hole. good for you Dmac.

 

[PosterChild]

I wanted DMac big-time, but now that it's over I can admit it was an irrational, typical fan desire. We will see how he turns out as a player, but for now I am happy with the direction we took in the draft even though I was disappointed on draft day when we didn't get DMac. That price tag is waaaayyy too high for our team and the contracts we have to carry for all our star players.

I read an interesting draft analysis by Greg Cosell. He is an executive producer for NFL Films (Howard's nephew), who watches a lot of tape and analyzes pro and college players. I've always respected and enjoyed his analysis. Cosell was not high on DMac at all. Very critical of his game as it projects to the NFL. He said the NFL is about lateral quickness, not straight line speed and DMac does not have the lateral quickness needed to excel in the NFL.

As for Felix, Cosell was very complimentary, saying he had tremendous lateral quickness and an explosive burst and that there were a lot of times on film that Felix looked like LT. Interesting analysis, I thought.

Five star post.
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[theogt]

For comparison, Gaines Adams, taken 4th overall in '07, signed a contract for 6 years, $42 million with $18.56 million guaranteed.

That's quite a jump. And personally I think pass-rushing defensive ends are MUCH more valuable than running backs in terms of winning games. Of course, McFadden will sell more tickets and jerseys.

 

[CrazyCowboy]

wow! that is all I can think of

 

[btcutter]

I think he's worth it.

I can't give out that kinda $$ just for THINKING. He better be for Raider sake.

 

[theogt]

McFADDEN’S REAL GUARANTEE IS $19.6 MILLION
Posted by Mike Florio on June 6, 2008, 1:42 p.m.

Though reported as a contract containing $26 million in guaranteed money, we’re told by a source with knowledge of the situation that the deal signed by Raiders running back Darren McFadden, the No. 4 overall pick in the draft, contains $19.6 million in guaranteed money at the time of signing.

The rest of the guaranteed money comes from achievement of the so-called “falling off the log” bonus based on the achievement of minimum playing time in any year of the deal.

We’re also told that the guaranteed money at the time of signing was based on McFadden’s rookie pool allocation in 2008 with guaranteed salaries in years two through five, and the maximum annual growth of 25 percent of the first-year compensation.

So while there’s a belief in some circles that guaranteed money can still be pushed into year six despite the early cancellation of the Collective Bargaining Agreement, the Raiders didn’t use that device.

And though our initial reaction was to ask why McFadden would have done a six-year deal with a guaranteed payment based on five seasons, he surely wouldn’t have gotten a $7.4 million “log” bonus as part of only a five-year contract.

 

[ENGCowboy]

This is going to be the stickler on any new CBA, I can see the owners wanting to set the contract for each pick in all rounds with an upper and lower limit per pick adjustable for position. This would then prevent agents from looking for a contract higher than last years pick. Cant see the players agreeing thou