Looking Ahead: How Do We Stop Denver's Running Attack???

[Nors]

Dat is better, Parcells concurs haha

He concurs so much Shanle is starting and Dats reps are reduced and he's moved to ST duty. Yup Parcells concurs. His exact words were Shanly isn't NECESARILLY better than Dat..... Then went on to break Dat's role down....in 3-4....

Let it rest and move on. Its over

 

[THUMPER]

Seems alittle slow right now, but here's something I've been thinking about for awhile ... how do we stop Denver's running attack and their two headed monster of Anderson and Bell???

I know it's still several games away ... with Philly and Detroit on deck before the Broncos, but I really think we can take down Philly and Detroit.

Denver will be a formidable obstacle. With modern technology and DirecTV, I've been watching a few of the Bronco's games ... trying to see what makes their running game click.

Year after year, they churn out 1000 yard rushers. This year, they'll have two possible 1000 yard rushers. It's no longer a question that it's the scheme, combined with good runners.

It's also been said Denver employs the smallest OL in the NFL ... I can't verify, but I won't argue. They're definitely not a knock'em down OL.

Anyway, I noticed a very interesting trend ... Denver NEVER runs straight at an opponent. They'll NEVER attack at the point of attack.

The OL is always moving in one direction ... keeping the D in a flow sideways. The RB then spots his hole and takes off.

In the same regard, the RB also looks for a cutback lane. Most of Tatem Bell's BIG runs were where he and the OL started off to one side of the field, and then Bell would cut back into a hole left by the D.

Play after play, it's the same thing ... OL slides one direction, and the RB either hits the hole or looks for a cutback lane.

Mike Anderson seems more prone to try and hit that hole ... he doesn't seem to have the niftiness for the cutback. Tatem Bell has eaten teams alive with the cutback.

Ok ... how do we stop that ??? I think it's ALL going to depend on out LB's. The DL guys MUST hold at the point of attack and perhaps be forced to slide with Denver's OL in whichever direction it's moving to prevent holes ... but the LB's MUST remain unblocked and contain the cutback.

Sounds easy ... how do we do it ???

If we can stop Denver's running game and get up on them early, I think we have the D to shut Jake and the passing game down. Once pressured, Jake WILL make mistakes ... it's been his motto throughout his career.

How do we stop Denver's running attack? Easy, get an early lead and continue to build on it. Force them to play catch up and they will have to abandon the run. That means we have to come out aggressive and attack them from the opening kickoff with no letup until the final gun. Beat them 56-20.

If we play our usual run-run-pass, get a 4-point lead and try to sit on it for half the game then we are likely to lose.

 

[Rogerthat12]

They employ different blocking schemes. Eagles held LT to 7 yards. So don't be so cocky.

Poetic Justice here...Eddie you do this same crap to people constantly attempting to be the "cocky" contrarian on almost every topic..enjoy
the medicine you regularly dish out to others

 

[Dayton Cowboy]

He concurs so much Shanle is starting and Dats reps are reduced and he's moved to ST duty. Yup Parcells concurs. His exact words were Shanly isn't NECESARILLY better than Dat..... Then went on to break Dat's role down....in 3-4....

Let it rest and move on. Its over

I don't know that Dat's role would be reduced had it not been for what was almost a career ending injury. Frankly, I like Dat. Though I know he has limitations. He's always been the classic overachiever. I think without the injury he would have been an overachiever again.. Even in the 3-4 defense. He was starting to make plays as well.

Shanle has been impressive though. He has definately stepped up his game and will give you props for your Shanle support that you were giving last season.

Individual Defense
Total Tackles Assists Sacks Fum Rec
Roy Williams 44 37.0 7 2.5 1
Anthony Henry 41 33.0 8 0 0
Bradie James 37 30.0 7 1.5 0
Terence Newman 27 26.0 1 1 0
Keith Davis 27 20.0 7 0 1
Dat Nguyen 26 22.0 4 1 1
Scott Shanle 25 20.0 5 1.5 0

 

[Bob Sacamano]

I don't know that Dat's role would be reduced had it not been for what was almost a career ending injury. Frankly, I like Dat. Though I know he has limitations. He's always been the classic overachiever. I think without the injury he would have been an overachiever again.. Even in the 3-4 defense. He was starting to make plays as well.

Shanle has been impressive though. He has definately stepped up his game and will give you props for your Shanle support that you were giving last season.

Individual Defense
Total Tackles Assists Sacks Fum Rec
Roy Williams 44 37.0 7 2.5 1
Anthony Henry 41 33.0 8 0 0
Bradie James 37 30.0 7 1.5 0
Terence Newman 27 26.0 1 1 0
Keith Davis 27 20.0 7 0 1
Dat Nguyen 26 22.0 4 1 1
Scott Shanle 25 20.0 5 1.5 0

don't even bother, I've mentioned Dat's injury many a times, and Nors still hasn't argued it, he just runs around it

 

[Bob Sacamano]

He concurs so much Shanle is starting and Dats reps are reduced and he's moved to ST duty. Yup Parcells concurs. His exact words were Shanly isn't NECESARILLY better than Dat..... Then went on to break Dat's role down....in 3-4....

Let it rest and move on. Its over

it's not over until you admit you were wrong saying Dat is being phased out

it's simple Nors the eyesore, Dat's role is being reduced to increase his effectiveness throughout the season, you didn't call it, now 'fess up

 

[Eddie]

Poetic Justice here...Eddie you do this same crap to people constantly attempting to be the "cocky" contrarian on almost every topic..enjoy
the medicine you regularly dish out to others

RD, nope, I just try to shoot down unfounded and unrealistic homerism. This topic is simply about strategy.

This isn't about us having the #1 D in the league or how we're going to the Super Bowl. All that unrealistic stuff is out the door.

It's a simple thread talking about football basics.

As for being a "cocky" contrarian, I think you have me wrong ... I'm a Cowboy fan first and foremost, but I'm not blinded by my allegiances. I give credit where it's due and I don't hate on other teams. I give as much respect to other teams as I do the Cowboys ... but I don't stare at the Cowboys as if they were Gods to be worshipped.

 

[Rogerthat12]

RD, nope, I just try to shoot down unfounded and unrealistic homerism. This topic is simply about strategy.

This isn't about us having the #1 D in the league or how we're going to the Super Bowl. All that unrealistic stuff is out the door.

It's a simple thread talking about football basics.

As for being a "cocky" contrarian, I think you have me wrong ... I'm a Cowboy fan first and foremost, but I'm not blinded by my allegiances. I give credit where it's due and I don't hate on other teams. I give as much respect to other teams as I do the Cowboys ... but I don't stare at the Cowboys as if they were Gods to be worshipped.

Sorry Eddie, it is nothing personal but you almost always play the role of the contrarian often uncritically and it is honestly annoying...just as annoying as those you offer the corrective to in the first place. I love when you talk football but when you fail to give proper credit to Dallas on a given point because you want to avoid or correct the kool-ade drinkers optimism this can often fail to give credit where credit is due. Likewise, when you overstate an opponents strenth to offer a corrective to a homer perspective you also give too much credit when it is not due.

This feature has been displayed on a plethora of threads and thus is not isolated to this one contextually. The problem is you often overstate the
opposite in order to offer corrective to the homerisms you so malign. I am with you on the irritation of the homeristic posts but please avoid the tendency of overstatement to correct them because unfortunately you become guilty of the same thing but simply on the other side of the poll.

To be a realist one does not need to agree with homeristic perspectives to be sure BUT one also need not overstate the opposite and thus fall into the same uncritical and inaccurate stance that the realist attempts to avoid. Feel free to be critical but keep in mind that your corrective needs to be critically engaged by "yourself" before you post it or you will fall victim to the same logic and approach as the homer albeit at the opposite poll.

I agree all the homer activity can frustrate but you must remember the psychology of a fan base that has suffered for almost a decade of debacle and corresponding loss. This newfound hope in the management/ coach and their ability to put forth a competitive team while developing young talent has many of us very excited about the team. Some fans move to excess and others are more cautiously optimistic but all of us love the Cowboys.

Thus, it is understandable some will overstate our true ability and others will understate where we are but both extremes can be avoided by not isolating perspectives into an either/or logical fallacy. We have apparently both significantly improved and are in need of improvement to go to the next level but the trajectory seems somewhat promising comparitavely speaking to where we have been lately.

 

[Eddie]

RD, wow, I should pay you for that psychological assessment.

Hey, how 'bout them Cowboys!?!

If they continue to play at a high level, then you'll probably see me agreeing to some of these "crazy" postings. Heck, I'm half-way there already.

But you have to admit, when we're a 6-11 team and looking at 3-3 after 6 games, it's hard to join in on all those Super Bowl threads.

If we beat Philly, Detroit, and then shut down the Broncos ... then I will eat major crow and join the flag waving. If we can go 8-3 heading into NY, then we're ready for some serious playoff and division title talk.

But we still have alot of ground to cover ... with the Giants playing the way they're playing and Washington playing well also, it's a three dog race.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

RD, wow, I should pay you for that psychological assessment.

Hey, how 'bout them Cowboys!?!

If they continue to play at a high level, then you'll probably see me agreeing to some of these "crazy" postings. Heck, I'm half-way there already.

But you have to admit, when we're a 6-11 team and looking at 3-3 after 6 games, it's hard to join in on all those Super Bowl threads.

If we beat Philly, Detroit, and then shut down the Broncos ... then I will eat major crow and join the flag waving. If we can go 8-3 heading into NY, then we're ready for some serious playoff and division title talk.

But we still have alot of ground to cover ... with the Giants playing the way they're playing and Washington playing well also, it's a three dog race.

I don't think we're going to give up any yards rushing because this is the greatest defense the NFL has ever seen.

 

[Eddie]

I don't think we're going to give up any yards rushing because this is the greatest defense the NFL has ever seen.

Normally, I'd start to flip out when I see postings like this ... but I know my buddy Mike is just pulling my chain and trying to get a reaction from me. :bang2:

But I do think our D will shut down Philly and Detroit. Neither have the offensive balance to do much damage to us.

Denver is what worries me. But going 2-1 over the next 3 games won't be the worst ... but it'll probably leave us out of the division race.

 

[Charles]

Seems alittle slow right now, but here's something I've been thinking about for awhile ... how do we stop Denver's running attack and their two headed monster of Anderson and Bell???

How.......... I'll tell you how..........

Chris Canty

Marcus Spears

It's about time these guys took over a game. Hopefully this Monday night can be a coming out party for Chris or Spears. If either of these guys becomes unblockable like Richard Seymour

 

[MichaelWinicki]

Normally, I'd start to flip out when I see postings like this ... but I know my buddy Mike is just pulling my chain and trying to get a reaction from me. :bang2:

But I do think our D will shut down Philly and Detroit. Neither have the offensive balance to do much damage to us.

Denver is what worries me. But going 2-1 over the next 3 games won't be the worst ... but it'll probably leave us out of the division race.

LOL!

Yep.

Just pulling your chain Eddie.

 

[joseephuss]

In the Jets-Falcons MNF game, Al Micheals said that Atlanta now has the smallest o-line in the league.

I think Dallas will mix in some 4 man lines to stop the run. Mix up the fronts to confuse the d-line. Zimmer also seems to be adding more stunts and blitzes every week. The team is getting more comtortable with the schemes and that allows them to be more flexible and diverse. It will be a tough test.

The offense will have to step up and score some points. Get a lead and force Denver to play catch up. Put the ball in Plummer's hands. He is a mistake waiting to happen.

 

[burmafrd]

Everyone (or just about everyone) is saying that this is the year that Plummer has finally arrived. That he will no longer toss it up for grabs or fumble, etc. I say put some pressure on him and THEN we shall see.

 

[Doomsday101]

You stop Denver’s running by not being overly aggressive, they live off the cut back and if Dallas can stay disciplined with defenders protecting the backside of the run we should be able to contain the running game of Denver.

 

[StevenOtero]

Same way they stopped Tomlinson, Alexander, Barber and Portis.

Yup, we will own these mothers.

 

[TwentyOne]

Seems alittle slow right now, but here's something I've been thinking about for awhile ... how do we stop Denver's running attack and their two headed monster of Anderson and Bell???

I know it's still several games away ... with Philly and Detroit on deck before the Broncos, but I really think we can take down Philly and Detroit.

Denver will be a formidable obstacle. With modern technology and DirecTV, I've been watching a few of the Bronco's games ... trying to see what makes their running game click.

Year after year, they churn out 1000 yard rushers. This year, they'll have two possible 1000 yard rushers. It's no longer a question that it's the scheme, combined with good runners.

It's also been said Denver employs the smallest OL in the NFL ... I can't verify, but I won't argue. They're definitely not a knock'em down OL.

Anyway, I noticed a very interesting trend ... Denver NEVER runs straight at an opponent. They'll NEVER attack at the point of attack.

The OL is always moving in one direction ... keeping the D in a flow sideways. The RB then spots his hole and takes off.

In the same regard, the RB also looks for a cutback lane. Most of Tatem Bell's BIG runs were where he and the OL started off to one side of the field, and then Bell would cut back into a hole left by the D.

Play after play, it's the same thing ... OL slides one direction, and the RB either hits the hole or looks for a cutback lane.

Mike Anderson seems more prone to try and hit that hole ... he doesn't seem to have the niftiness for the cutback. Tatem Bell has eaten teams alive with the cutback.

Ok ... how do we stop that ??? I think it's ALL going to depend on out LB's. The DL guys MUST hold at the point of attack and perhaps be forced to slide with Denver's OL in whichever direction it's moving to prevent holes ... but the LB's MUST remain unblocked and contain the cutback.

Sounds easy ... how do we do it ???

If we can stop Denver's running game and get up on them early, I think we have the D to shut Jake and the passing game down. Once pressured, Jake WILL make mistakes ... it's been his motto throughout his career.

The question is not how we stop denvers running attack. the question will be will denver figure a way out to run against our defence!

 

[AbeBeta]

You stop Denver’s running by not being overly aggressive, they live off the cut back and if Dallas can stay disciplined with defenders protecting the backside of the run we should be able to contain the running game of Denver.

And that is exactly what well schooled D-linemen do.Denver takes advantage of teams that freelance. Beating this scheme is all about playing solid team defense.

 

[Doomsday101]

And that is exactly what well schooled D-linemen do.Denver takes advantage of teams that freelance. Beating this scheme is all about playing solid team defense.

Exactly, take care of your defensive responsibilities and Denver's running game is easier to handle.