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CCBoy said:
He is inept in today's style play and has shown this over time...
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Brandin Cooks still has some ability as an older guy, but the Cowboys don't use him correctly, which pretty much makes him irrelevant at times. The same can be said for KaVontae Turpin in terms of proper usage. Jalen Tolbert and Jalen Brooks keep having a flash here and there, but nothing has been consistent.

https://www.bloggingtheboys.com/202...dle-wide-reciever-cornerback-draft-free-agent

Jalen Tolbert has emerged as a reliable option, but his numbers - 512 receiving yards and seven touchdowns on 45 catches - would make for a great fourth option in most offenses. Instead, he’s second on the team in yards and first in touchdown catches. Jake Ferguson has seen a steep drop-off from his breakout season last year; he has four fumbles in his career and all four came this season, and Ferguson has yet to catch a single touchdown.

https://www.bloggingtheboys.com/202...oblems-eagles-game-zimmer-dak-prescott-roster

This not today's level of leadership where held accountable as well.
 
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garyo1954 said:
Good thing I am a Marine.
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:thumbup: Our motto in the 3rd ACR was it shall be done...Hoooooah! Yaw used Hooorah!

Know what yaw is? Oscillation of a projection caused by gravity as it passes through it's path. That was removed with rifling and a spiral. You'all.
 
During Nam permanent personnel at PI. After Nam orders to DC.
 
garyo1954 said:
During Nam permanent personnel at PI. After Nam orders to DC.
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Today people would wait and blame it on an Egyptian curse...and a Jarhead could out curse most. I was an instructor for armor and we taught Marines up through Senior NCO's at that point.

Lost one, this is lost 3...you looking for lost too?

I tried to give to Soldier's Relief what I received for Soldier of the Year at Fort Bliss. Post CSM presented the reward was soldier related and I would almost be a poor NCO if it was not accepted by myself...I went to Hawaii. But lost a thumb and a platinum plate in my other hand. Still remained a tank commander...

GO COWBOYS! :thumbup::starspin:
 
Here there were four cousins. Two in country, one in Oki, and me. We lost one, best of the four.

Semper Fi!
 
Jerry only had college football and coming up in the oil fields to growth from. Wildcatting, not ethics protecting gamble of his people. That had to be grown from painful human abuses.

He never benefited from military 'payments' to educated leadership. He had ownership and that type of gamble in his start...not now as to ego.

Stephen teethed on buying a type of player and a loyal type of coach.

What Jerry has to now control is paying for the victory and sacrificing for that and not the highest rated business instead of awards.
 
Jerry only had college football and coming up in the oil fields to growth from. Wildcatting, not ethics protecting gamble of his people. That had to be grown from painful human abuses.

He never benefited from military 'payments' to educated leadership. He had ownership and that type of gamble in his start...not now as to ego.

Stephen teethed on buying a type of player and a loyal type of coach.

What Jerry has to now control is paying for the victory and sacrificing for that and not the highest rated business instead of awards.

His current Head Coach has impressive numbers and Jerry still rules the roost. But if he keeps his current Head Coach, I wouldn't from the start of this season, he better welcome his Coach into his office and tell him to just sit down and shut the hell up. Then tell him coach if you want to stay, you better clean up YOUR crap.

I was at the Battalion Headquarters working when the Motor Officer and A Troop Commander were called into his office as were myself and other NCO's there. The XO, who we called 'the bear,' stood his two officers at attention in front of his desk. Hear that Jerry?

He told one Captain to turn and introduce himself to the other Captain, which he did. Then vice versa. Every last one of us NCO's were snickering fully. He told them both to never make him do this again. (working as a team and communicating to success)
 
conner01 said:
I don’t see Lance returning at all. Dlaw maybe if he’s willing to play below market. I think rush returns but pretty much agree on the rest
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whos gonna be our QB2 next season then?

The kid is fire.
 
Clearly, things didn’t work themselves out this season. Most people will blame injuries as the root cause for the Cowboys’ failures, and let’s be real, the injuries have been significant. It’s hard to think any coach could have success with the health problems the Cowboys have endured this year, particularly losing your starting quarterback for a large part of the season.

When you look at the Cowboys' last 20 seasons, four times they lost their starting quarterback for most of the year. Each time they finished with a losing season. Conversely, when their quarterback was healthy, they never finished with a losing season during that same 20-year span. That’s impressive and speaks to how good the supporting cast has been to keep winning across multiple coaching staffs.

So, having a losing season in a year without Dak Prescott is par for the course for the Cowboys and McCarthy shouldn’t be overcriticized for that. But we shouldn’t stop there. This season has felt extra yucky because the Cowboys aren’t just losing games, they’re getting laughed out of the building. The Cowboys have lost five games this season by at least 20 points. No season in the Jerry Jones era had as many blowout losses as McCarthy’s group has this year. In fact, that’s the same amount of blowouts as all of the ‘90s Cowboys team had combined.

https://www.bloggingtheboys.com/202...head-coach-decision-jason-garrett-jerry-jones
 
That’s right, outside of Dan Quinn, not a single Cowboys coordinator under three successive head coaches (Wade Phillips, Jason Garrett, Mike McCarthy) over a span of 18 seasons was promoted into a head coaching job with another team.

But it’s not just the absence of future head coaches among the assistant coaching ranks that should raise all sorts of alarms. The fate of former Cowboys offensive and defensive coordinators (Dan Quinn’s potential move to a HC position notwithstanding) once they leave Dallas is an unmitigated disaster and is a flaming indictment of the Cowboys front office.

https://www.bloggingtheboys.com/202...ones-stephen-super-bowl-changes-mike-mccarthy

Jerry, here and now, you and Stephen are no longer seen as famous Hollywood Producers.
 
  • Wade Phillips (2007-2010). Phillips was HC and DC in one, and once fired during the 2010 season, Phillips signed up as DC in Houston (2011-2013), was completely out of the NFL for a year, and followed that up with DC stints with the Broncos (2015-16) and Rams (2017-19) and reemerged in 2023 as a head coach in the XFL/UFL.
  • Paul Pasqualoni (2010). Pasqualoni briefly took over as DC when Phillips was fired and was out of the NFL immediately after that. After three years as a college head coach, he resurfaced in the NFL as a DL coach with various teams, and even made it back to DC briefly with the Lions (2018-19).
  • Rob Ryan (2011-2012). Followed up his two-year gig in Dallas with three years in New Orleans (2013-2015), and one more year in Buffalo (2016) before sitting out for three years before his next NFL job and has been team-hopping in various assistant roles since.
  • Monte Kiffin (2013-2014). After just one year, Kiffin was demoted as DC in favor of Rod Marinelli, but hung around as “assistant head coach for defense” for another year. He was out of the NFL before signing on with Jacksonville in 2016.
  • Rod Marinelli (2013-2019). Marinelli took over as DC in 2014 and stayed until 2019 before moving on to the Raiders and taking a step down to DL coach.
  • Mike Nolan (2020). McCarthy’s hand-picked DC delivered the worst defensive performance in team history. He was out of the NFL after that and only resurfaced in 2023 as a head coach in the UFL.
  • Dan Quinn (2021) is the one guy that broke the trend. He’s the first Dallas DC since 2007 not to take a demotion or to be out of the NFL shortly after his stay in Dallas.
https://newsreadery.com/search?q=#dallascowboys

Jerry, the GM, your defenses suck...just loyalty isn't good. A GM has to carry and make standards.



When the Cowboys initially hired all these coordinators, they thought they were getting experienced veterans with institutional knowledge and demonstrated success in the past, almost all with former head-coaching experience.

What they got instead were mostly retreads long past their prime just a step or two removed from the end of their NFL careers.

https://www.bloggingtheboys.com/202...ones-stephen-super-bowl-changes-mike-mccarthy
 
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Offense?

Sad enough that they keep falling into the same predictable trap at DC, but the pattern repeats at offensive coordinator as well. Sure, they had two promoted-from-within guys in Jason Garrett and Kellen Moore who seem to break the mold (at least from an age perspective), but do they really?

  • Jason Garrett (2007-2019). We tend to forget that Garrett was a hot commodity as a young OC back in the day. After the 2007 season he was offered the head coaching jobs in Baltimore and Atlanta but stayed in Dallas. Detroit, Denver and St. Louis inquired about Garrett the next season, but he again preferred to stay in Dallas and took over as head coach in 2011. After his tenure in Dallas, Garret had lost all his sparkle and signed on with the Giants as OC for two years, but has been out of the NFL since.
  • Bill Callahan (2012-2014), a former head coach for the Raiders, was hired in 2012 as an OL coach, took over play-calling duties from Garrett in 2013, and was himself stripped of play-calling duties in 2014. Callahan stepped back down to OL coach for Washington (2015-2019), before moving on to Cleveland as an OL coach in 2020 and to Tennessee in 2024.
  • Scott Linehan (2014-2018), a former head coach for the Rams, took over play-calling duties from 2015-2018, and has been out of the NFL since.
  • Kellen Moore (2018-2022) was promoted to OC after Linehan left, and despite “lighting up the scoreboard” in Dallas and garnering multiple HC interviews, he only managed a lateral move to be the Chargers OC for a year, and followed that up with another lateral move to OC in Philly. At least he isn’t out of the NFL yet.
What we see here, with the possible exception of Garrett and Moore, is a consistent modus operandi by the Cowboys front office that favors former head coaches and/or established veteran coaches with big names. Names that come with one important benefit for the Cowboys from office: they signal competence by association.

https://www.bloggingtheboys.com/202...ones-stephen-super-bowl-changes-mike-mccarthy
 
CCBoy said:
Offense?

Sad enough that they keep falling into the same predictable trap at DC, but the pattern repeats at offensive coordinator as well. Sure, they had two promoted-from-within guys in Jason Garrett and Kellen Moore who seem to break the mold (at least from an age perspective), but do they really?

  • Jason Garrett (2007-2019). We tend to forget that Garrett was a hot commodity as a young OC back in the day. After the 2007 season he was offered the head coaching jobs in Baltimore and Atlanta but stayed in Dallas. Detroit, Denver and St. Louis inquired about Garrett the next season, but he again preferred to stay in Dallas and took over as head coach in 2011. After his tenure in Dallas, Garret had lost all his sparkle and signed on with the Giants as OC for two years, but has been out of the NFL since.
  • Bill Callahan (2012-2014), a former head coach for the Raiders, was hired in 2012 as an OL coach, took over play-calling duties from Garrett in 2013, and was himself stripped of play-calling duties in 2014. Callahan stepped back down to OL coach for Washington (2015-2019), before moving on to Cleveland as an OL coach in 2020 and to Tennessee in 2024.
  • Scott Linehan (2014-2018), a former head coach for the Rams, took over play-calling duties from 2015-2018, and has been out of the NFL since.
  • Kellen Moore (2018-2022) was promoted to OC after Linehan left, and despite “lighting up the scoreboard” in Dallas and garnering multiple HC interviews, he only managed a lateral move to be the Chargers OC for a year, and followed that up with another lateral move to OC in Philly. At least he isn’t out of the NFL yet.
What we see here, with the possible exception of Garrett and Moore, is a consistent modus operandi by the Cowboys front office that favors former head coaches and/or established veteran coaches with big names. Names that come with one important benefit for the Cowboys from office: they signal competence by association.

https://www.bloggingtheboys.com/202...ones-stephen-super-bowl-changes-mike-mccarthy
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KMoore was hired by the Chargers after leaving Dallas.

24 hours later.
 
DuncanIso said:
KMoore was hired by the Chargers after leaving Dallas.

24 hours later.
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:hammer:Security of association with previous success in the past. Just records and not current leadership of product.
 
Vrabel is a defensive-minded head coach who was able to achieve strong levels of success in Tennessee with a veteran QB who wasn’t well regarded (Ryan Tannehill) prior to their time together. Known as a disciplinarian, pairing him with Dak Prescott would require finding the next big thing as offensive coordinator.

Vrabel seems to fit as the coach with a ton of experience Jones is believed to prefer.

https://cowboyswire.usatoday.com/lists/cowboys-mike-mccarthy-replacement-rankings-head-coach-2025/

Vrabel and Moore might work, but the mold seems to be the problem in the Jerry's scheme of things.

A strong and young offensive coordinator seems to mesh up with the roster picking the best.
 
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