Looks like I am going to White Sands

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Just got an email from the career office telling me that I am probably going to White Sands Missile Range in New Mexico. that is near Los Cruces. ANYONE here live near there or know anything about the area?
 

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Was getting ready to say I have been there, but thinking back on it I think it was McGreggor not White sands we did our bivouac, brm and other training while at basic in Ft Bliss.

However you might want to PM CBZ40 and ABQCowboy as I believe both live in New Mexico and might be able to provide you with some info.
 

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BrAinPaiNt;2579466 said:
Was getting ready to say I have been there, but thinking back on it I think it was McGreggor not White sands we did our bivouac, brm and other training while at basic in Ft Bliss.

However you might want to PM CBZ40 and ABQCowboy as I believe both live in New Mexico and might be able to provide you with some info.

Pops lives in South Texas
 

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Yeagermeister;2579468 said:
Pops lives in South Texas

My bad...thought I heard him talk about New Mexico a few times.
 

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burmafrd;2579436 said:
Just got an email from the career office telling me that I am probably going to White Sands Missile Range in New Mexico. that is near Los Cruces. ANYONE here live near there or know anything about the area?

I may have missed it in any number of previous posts,but are you civilian working for a govt. contractor,i.e. Raytheon,or the like?
El Paso is a pretty neat town for a border town. Used to be you could go into Juarez for a great dinner or night on the town with nary a worry. reading the papers now,it seems the drug violence has put a damper on that. The weather is probably similar to Kuwait,especially in the summertime. Of course the last time I was in El Paso was for OBC back in the late 60's,so I think a lot has changed since then.
I believe Cloudcroft and Red River are not that far if you like winter skiing.
 

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Chief (I think) and even Hos may know something... Hos seems to know the southwest pretty well.
 

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I work for the Army in a mandatory mobility career; so when they tell you to go there you do or you have to quit. The choice I am facing is either there or Ft Irwin and a woman who just got here from there told me in no uncertain terms why I would NOT want to go there. Which pretty much confirmed what I had heard from elsewhere. I would prefer to go somewhere with a little more variety in weather; on the other hand I would be near mountains and I love mountains. The situation in Mexico is another concern- I would be only about 50 miles from the border.
 

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burmafrd;2579436 said:
Just got an email from the career office telling me that I am probably going to White Sands Missile Range in New Mexico. that is near Los Cruces. ANYONE here live near there or know anything about the area?

I grew up in New Mexico. I won't lie to you. There's not a whole lot around the white sands area.

If you're into hunting and fishing, and skiiing, you will have fun.

Ruidoso will be the haven for you. Its a small touristy town, but its very pretty. Its in the mountains.

Las Cruces isn't that great, nor is El Paso.

How long you going to be there?
 

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3-5 years if I don't piss somebody important off. Which I have done in the past. Told the 3 star who was superintendent at West Point to get off his semi retired keister and hire competent people to run his ASP or I would shut it down. That was what got me sent to kuwait.
 

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burmafrd;2579631 said:
3-5 years if I don't piss somebody important off. Which I have done in the past. Told the 3 star who was superintendent at West Point to get off his semi retired keister and hire competent people to run his ASP or I would shut it down. That was what got me sent to kuwait.

I'm hoping you've learned your lesson.


There's nothing really out there in WS. I bet its alot like Kuwait, although maybe a little cooler. Its desolate, barren land.

But hey, at least you're in the states.
 

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Yeah, I look at it that way too.

Never have learned to not tell idiots like that fat 3 star the brutal truth. Too old to change now.


The Army Chief of Staff came through here for a quick visit a few weeks ago. The Chief of Surveillance made sure I was nowhere near him as he was here to see the ATACS machine work (a truly useless piece of crap that unfortunately has fans in high places that have absolutely no idea of how useless it is). He was afraid I would tell the general the best thing to do with that machine would take 2 lbs of C-4. And I probably would have.
 

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Chief lives in Las Cruces. Otero1 lives in Alamogordo. Those are the 2 biggest places on each side of White Sands. I was born in Las Cruces and I know it well.

You'll be within easy drives of Ruidoso. Horse racing and skiing there. Got a brother who lives there now.

Carlsbad Caverns is not that far away.

Roswell is close, so you can go learn all about UFOs from the conspiracy theorists there who don't know who Robert Goddard was.

If you happen to be into treasure hunting, since you are a government employee, you might want to check out the rumors about the treasure at Victorio Peak. My Aunt and Grandmother were part of the excavation attempts the Government allowed there after Doc Noss dynamited it shut instead of opening it up. My Aunt still believes the Army excavated all of it out and screwed Doc out of his discovery.

Interesting area you're headed to. Shoot me PMs if you have any specific questions. Chief can back me up on this...best Mexican Food in Las Cruces is at My Brother's Place.
 

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Hostile;2579808 said:
Chief lives in Las Cruces. Otero1 lives in Alamogordo. Those are the 2 biggest places on each side of White Sands. I was born in Las Cruces and I know it well.

You'll be within easy drives of Ruidoso. Horse racing and skiing there. Got a brother who lives there now.

Carlsbad Caverns is not that far away.

Roswell is close, so you can go learn all about UFOs from the conspiracy theorists there who don't know who Robert Goddard was.

If you happen to be into treasure hunting, since you are a government employee, you might want to check out the rumors about the treasure at Victorio Peak. My Aunt and Grandmother were part of the excavation attempts the Government allowed there after Doc Noss dynamited it shut instead of opening it up. My Aunt still believes the Army excavated all of it out and screwed Doc out of his discovery.

Interesting area you're headed to. Shoot me PMs if you have any specific questions. Chief can back me up on this...best Mexican Food in Las Cruces is at My Brother's Place.

Your brother owns a resturant? What's the name of it? :D
 

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Hostile;2579808 said:
Roswell is close, so you can go learn all about UFOs from the conspiracy theorists there who don't know who Robert Goddard was.

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Are you suggesting it was one of Goddards rockets that they found out there in Roswell?
 

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Hostile;2579914 said:

Goddard died in 1945. The Roswell incident was in 1947.

Unless you believe someone just had a goddard rocket and used it later, however, he was pretty damn secretive about his stuff.
 

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CowboyWay;2579931 said:
Goddard died in 1945. The Roswell incident was in 1947.

Unless you believe someone just had a goddard rocket and used it later, however, he was pretty damn secretive about his stuff.
His work did not die with his death though. The science did not die and his labs did not pick up and move.

Don't you find it the least bit coincidental that of all the places on earth to "crash" it would be in that area?

You said the key word, secretive. Hence the "cover up" of the real truth.

The "autopsy" photographs have been proven to be fake. That was the most compelling evidence.

I'm not saying life doesn't exist out there. My own Dad, a pilot, swore that he saw a UFO one time. I am saying what happened in Roswell was not an alien craft crashing.
 

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It was not a UFO, and there were no aliens. People have every right to believe that if they want to, and I have every right to laugh at them. But I don't think Goddard had anything to do with it.

The facts are that there is a military base in Roswell. And there ain't much else out there. Which means its an ideal testing ground for just about anything the military wants to test. The mid 40's were a technological wonderland. Everything and anything was being developed from rockets, to missles, to the jet engine.

I have no doubt that whatever crash landed out there was done by the military. Coulda been a prototype jet, or some sort of crazy aircraft the military was testing. God only knows. Hence any cover up people may talk about.

One thing for certain I know, is it didn't come from outer space.
 

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CowboyWay;2580020 said:
It was not a UFO, and there were no aliens. People have every right to believe that if they want to, and I have every right to laugh at them. But I don't think Goddard had anything to do with it.

The facts are that there is a military base in Roswell. And there ain't much else out there. Which means its an ideal testing ground for just about anything the military wants to test. The mid 40's were a technological wonderland. Everything and anything was being developed from rockets, to missles, to the jet engine.

I have no doubt that whatever crash landed out there was done by the military. Coulda been a prototype jet, or some sort of crazy aircraft the military was testing. God only knows. Hence any cover up people may talk about.

One thing for certain I know, is it didn't come from outer space.
Right, and regardless of what it was, it from the technological advances that Goddard and his team were learning. Hence my opinion it was the result of Goddard's life work, not an alien life form or craft.

Side note, my brother-in-law is a professional magician and juggler. He was hired to do a performance in Roswell for one of their celebrations of the UFO crash. He came back from there convinced like they are. He asked me about it since I am from NM. He left my house convinced the UFO crowd in Roswell were out of their minds. Talk about a flip flop.
 
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