Looks to me as if Colombo is a goner...

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No way I see us paying $50MM to Marc Colombo or anything near it, after having just signed Davis to the mega deal. I guess we will be looking elsewhere or to the draft for our new lineman. Once again, this is a big concern, just as it has been for the past 4 years. Had BP drafted well on the OL (Jacob Rogers, etc) we wouldn't in this pickle.
Gaining Davis and losing Colombo seems like nothing more than a wash in my ever humble opinion.
Lets get some thoughts going on this one gentlemen.
 

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TheProphet;1406121 said:
No way I see us paying $50MM to Marc Colombo or anything near it, after having just signed Davis to the mega deal. I guess we will be looking elsewhere or to the draft for our new lineman. Once again, this is a big concern, just as it has been for the past 4 years. Had BP drafted well on the OL (Jacob Rogers, etc) we wouldn't in this pickle.
Gaining Davis and losing Colombo seems like nothing more than a wash in my ever humble opinion.
Lets get some thoughts going on this one gentlemen.

I'm not seeing any reports of teams making big offers to Columbo and he is still talking with Dallas. I would not be suprised to see him back
 

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TheProphet;1406121 said:
Gaining Davis and losing Colombo seems like nothing more than a wash in my ever humble opinion.

It's not a wash. Davis is far and away a superior run blocker. Davis can also play left tackle. Something Columbo hasn't proven he can do. A left tackle is worth more than a right tackle. Also, with Flozell come due next season, if the Cowboys don't resign him. We now have an expereinced left tackle to replace him.
 

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Doomsday101;1406124 said:
I'm not seeing any reports of teams making big offers to Columbo and he is still talking with Dallas. I would not be suprised to see him back

Hope you are right. Colombo should have had a contract wrapped up well before free agency started. Now that he's seen the big money that's being handed out to guys like Dockery, he is going to be much tougher to sign.
 

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nyc;1406125 said:
It's not a wash. Davis is far and away a superior run blocker. Davis can also play left tackle. Something Columbo hasn't proven he can do. A left tackle is worth more than a right tackle. Also, with Flozell come due next season, if the Cowboys don't resign him. We now have an expereinced left tackle to replace him.

If you gain one linemen and turn around and lose another, it is a wash. Yes Davis is more versatile, but we will still have a big time hole if we lose Colombo.
 

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This has been my concern also for the past week...yes, Davis offers more than Columbo but Columbo looks like a warrior who will not 'take plays off' or relax having won a big contract....maybe there is a star in the draft who could take his spot but most boards say there are guards out there but not many tackles that could step right in....
 

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TheProphet;1406131 said:
Hope you are right. Colombo should have had a contract wrapped up well before free agency started. Now that he's seen the big money that's being handed out to guys like Dockery, he is going to be much tougher to sign.

Not if other teams are not willing to pay that money. Columbo is still out there while other guards and gotten the money. Why should Dallas pay out what others are not even willing to pay out? Columbo is a good player but he is a player who has spent more years injured than he has played, he has 1 season under his belt and now he should get what the top FA at his position are getting? I think Dallas should continue to negotiate with him but I don't see the need to just hand over what ever he wants
 

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TheProphet;1406121 said:
No way I see us paying $50MM to Marc Colombo or anything near it,

What makes you think he's ASKING for 50 mil, or anything near it??

I think it's quite asinine to believe that Marc Colombo honestly thinks his body of work in the NFL thus far in his career justifies such a deal...

Lets get some thoughts going on this one gentlemen.

My thought is your basic premise is rather silly, at least based on the "evidence" you presented in support of it...
 

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i would have loved to sign Colombo to the same exact contract that Kosier got, but now i'm pretty sure thats just wishful thinking now.
 

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silverbear;1406140 said:
My thought is your basic premise is rather silly, at least based on the "evidence" you presented in support of it...

Did ya expect anything else?
 

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TheProphet;1406132 said:
If you gain one linemen and turn around and lose another, it is a wash. Yes Davis is more versatile, but we will still have a big time hole if we lose Colombo.

Eh? That doesn't make since. First Columbo plays right tackle. Davis can play right tackle. The hole that was created with the loss of Columbo was filled with Davis. Davis is a far better run blocker. +1 Davis. Davis can be far more dominating as a pass blocker than Columbo also because he is far more gifted player than Columbo. The problem has always been Davis doesn't give full effort on every play. Well, I expect that to change with this team. There is no way this is a wash. It would be like trading LT for J. Jones and calling it a wash. It's not by any means. It's an upgrade. That doesn't mean you want to lose someone like Columbo. It's just not a wash.
 

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TheProphet;1406131 said:
Hope you are right. Colombo should have had a contract wrapped up well before free agency started.

Oh, sweet Jay-sus...

Has it ever occurred to you that his agent ADVISED him to test the free agent waters, saying that this market this year was gonna get weird (it already has), and that he had no idea how much his client might be worth on that market...

IOW, the Cowboys almost certainly TRIED to get him signed, but he was dead set on finding out his market value... and how, pray tell, do you figure the Cowboys "should have" wrapped up a contract with him, in the face of such determination??

Answer-- you overpay for the guy, big time... that's the ONLY way to keep him from testing the free agent waters...

So, it would seem that in spite of your complaints about how he's likely to want a 50 million dollar deal, you're not really opposed to overpaying him after all...

Now that he's seen the big money that's being handed out to guys like Dockery, he is going to be much tougher to sign.[/QUOTE]
 

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Doomsday101;1406138 said:
Not if other teams are not willing to pay that money. Columbo is still out there while other guards and gotten the money. Why should Dallas pay out what others are not even willing to pay out? Columbo is a good player but he is a player who has spent more years injured than he has played, he has 1 season under his belt and now he should get what the top FA at his position are getting? I think Dallas should continue to negotiate with him but I don't see the need to just hand over what ever he wants

I think Columbo wants to return also. I bet it's fun to play on this type of offense. Romo, TO, Witten, Glenn, and now with Davis coming, run blocking will probably be fun. Especially if you have a mountain like Davis playing guard beside you!
 

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Doomsday101;1406124 said:
I'm not seeing any reports of teams making big offers to Columbo and he is still talking with Dallas. I would not be suprised to see him back


he was in ny with the jets yesterday apparently.

Correct me if I am wrong but The gm of the jets brian tannenbaum is a close personal friend of parcells. The jets need a right tackle. They will have all the info on columbo they want.

I would imagine that is why kenyon coleman is going there.
 

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silverbear;1406140 said:
What makes you think he's ASKING for 50 mil, or anything near it??

I think it's quite asinine to believe that Marc Colombo honestly thinks his body of work in the NFL thus far in his career justifies such a deal...



My thought is your basic premise is rather silly, at least based on the "evidence" you presented in support of it...

Dockery is a midling guard and signed a $50MM deal with the Bills. He's never been to a pro bowl and is a "false start" machine. If he can get a deal like that, why wouldn't Colombo test the waters? Good to middling linemen are being paid big bucks these days. I think it is rather naive that you believe no other team would be interested in signing him. Some team will probably be willing to give him a sizeable contract. Like I said, his contract should have been wrapped up long before free agency began. :rolleyes:
 

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theebs;1406152 said:
he was in ny with the jets yesterday apparently.

Correct me if I am wrong but The gm of the jets brian tannenbaum is a close personal friend of parcells. The jets need a right tackle. They will have all the info on columbo they want.

I would imagine that is why kenyon coleman is going there.

Great point. I rest my case.
 

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I don't think Davis will play RT for us, regardless if Colombo comes back or not. If he does not, then I think we have a great chance to get Pat Mcq ready to take over for Flo next year. Let him get is feet wet playing RT, get adjusted to the speed of the game and see what the kid has. We will also prob draft a OL high for depth this year and maybe a starting role at RT or LT next year depending on how Pat McQ works out.

I would like to have Marc back, but if he don't come back, I don't think we are bad off.
 

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Cowboy4ever;1406168 said:
I don't think Davis will play RT for us, regardless if Colombo comes back or not. If he does not, then I think we have a great chance to get Pat Mcq ready to take over for Flo next year.

Nobody outside of the organization has any clue about McQuistan. To think he will be ready is wishful thinking. They said this guy only had (what?) three years of playing experience. I think it will take a bit more time for him to become a viable option. Though I could be wrong, but like I said. Noone outside the organization actually knows. To have the physical abilities is one thing, to actually know how to use them is a different thing all together.
 
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