Lucky Whitehead is stacked

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Shorter players particularly with world class speed can function outside. There are several examples of it. Beasley didn't emerge until his second year either if you want to compare apples to apples.

Ok, name some RECENT 1s and 2s who are short. If you're talking about the slot ok. I was talking about the X and Z which are generally your 1s and 2s.
 

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Ok, name some RECENT 1s and 2s who are short. If you're talking about the slot ok. I was talking about the X and Z which are generally your 1s and 2s.

Steve Smith, Desean Jackson, Brandin Cooks, Kendall Wright, Emmanuel Sanders, Golden Tate, Antonio Brown, and Ty Hilton.
 

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Steve Smith, Desean Jackson, Brandin Cooks, Kendall Wright, Emmanuel Sanders, Golden Tate, Antonio Brown, and Ty Hilton.

Smith is over 200 and plays big. Jackson plays small and is but speed yes. Cooks and Kendall Wright are 5-10 192 don't know them. Emmanuel Sanders is 5-11 185. Tate is 5-10 200. Brown is 5-10 184. Hilton is 5-9 180 but has yrs of experience and is a great route runner but I'll give you him and Jackson.

Whitehead is 5-9 without gravity and weighs 163+ but he looks closer now to the 180 in some reports.

Dunbar is 5-8 to 5-9 but 200+.

No reason Whitehead can't play occasional Z and more SL though.
 

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Smith is over 200 and plays big. Jackson plays small and is but speed yes. Cooks and Kendall Wright are 5-10 192 don't know them. Emmanuel Sanders is 5-11 185. Tate is 5-10 200. Brown is 5-10 184. Hilton is 5-9 180 but has yrs of experience and is a great route runner but I'll give you him and Jackson.

Whitehead is 5-9 without gravity and weighs 163+ but he looks closer now to the 180 in some reports.

Dunbar is 5-8 to 5-9 but 200+.

No reason Whitehead can't play occasional Z and more SL though.

You said short so I picked guys under 6' which is short by NFL standards where they want guys 6'2" and above for the position. He does have 4.3 speed and he runs like that on the field. Lucky putting on weight(183 lbs) is one of the reasons I give him a shot to be a starter. I haven't busted out the anointing oil yet.

Brown is all of 1" taller.

My concern with Dunbar is his position and injury proneness. I'm willing to keep and open mind but I cannot do better than that. If Lucky starts getting hurt a lot then I'll quickly sour on him too.
 

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You said short so I picked guys under 6' which is short by NFL standards where they want guys 6'2" and above for the position. He does have 4.3 speed and he runs like that on the field. Lucky putting on weight(183 lbs) is one of the reasons I give him a shot to be a starter. I haven't busted out the anointing oil yet.

Brown is all of 1" taller.

My concern with Dunbar is his position and injury proneness. I'm willing to keep and open mind but I cannot do better than that. If Lucky starts getting hurt a lot then I'll quickly sour on him too.

There's short then there's short. I don't pay as much attention to exact height as I do build. I've covered TEs 6-3 and 245 who are huge and poor quality opponents 6-5 250 who were nothing physically. Reach, jumping ability, tracking the ball, and build along with speed, route running, and their head in the game means a lot.

If Whitehead can keep his speed and get into his routes better with the above then he can play the W, S, and Z.
 

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I think he is going to be one of if not the most improved players. I say that knowing full well I expect collins to be a really good player at guard.
 

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He's definitely ripped..not sure how much strength he really has..he's a little guy...obviously not a power player...not sure the added bulk will help all that much

He's not going against giants. He just needs to be able to break that 1 arm jam and then let his speed go to work. I've said for years that we need someone that can take the top off the defense and he has that kind of speed. The problem is that Tony doesn't have the arm to take the top off so I'm not sure defenses are really going to respect that. Having said that I'll take Tony over nearly any qb in the league.
 

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He's definitely ripped..not sure how much strength he really has..he's a little guy...obviously not a power player...not sure the added bulk will help all that much
Ripped? He's anything but ripped if we're talking NFL wideouts. Needs to lower his body fat %. He looks like Dat Nguyen.
 

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Most of the stuff he has done is on instagram and I don't know you can post videos from there here but he has gotten fairly massive this year in the upper body and core.

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That is the build I expect from a LB. Most WR are much more lean through the chest, shoulders and midsection. If he can keep his speed then watch out because he looks to have the strength to rip through jams now.

I really like the work Woicik has been doing. Players seem to be getting stronger at a better rate and Claiborne notwithstanding the soft tissue injuries are not near as common.

Cannot wait for TC and I for one would love to see Lucky win a starting job. That 4.3 speed would be a major boon if he still has it.

Also that is Dre Kirkpatrick of Bengals fame he is working out with.

Never heard a guy refer to another guy as "stacked" lol
 

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You said short so I picked guys under 6' which is short by NFL standards where they want guys 6'2" and above for the position. He does have 4.3 speed and he runs like that on the field. Lucky putting on weight(183 lbs) is one of the reasons I give him a shot to be a starter. I haven't busted out the anointing oil yet.

Brown is all of 1" taller.

My concern with Dunbar is his position and injury proneness. I'm willing to keep and open mind but I cannot do better than that. If Lucky starts getting hurt a lot then I'll quickly sour on him too.

Does he still have 4.3 speed and quickness with 20lbs of bulk? I remember it killed Felix Jones' speed when he bulked up.
 

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Does he still have 4.3 speed and quickness with 20lbs of bulk? I remember it killed Felix Jones' speed when he bulked up.

Felix got fat he didn't get stronger. It's still a concern but NBA players used to not work out their legs for this reason back in the 70's and 80's but modern players do; I'm not sure how much validity the concern has.
 

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Smith is over 200 and plays big. Jackson plays small and is but speed yes. Cooks and Kendall Wright are 5-10 192 don't know them. Emmanuel Sanders is 5-11 185. Tate is 5-10 200. Brown is 5-10 184. Hilton is 5-9 180 but has yrs of experience and is a great route runner but I'll give you him and Jackson.

Whitehead is 5-9 without gravity and weighs 163+ but he looks closer now to the 180 in some reports.

Dunbar is 5-8 to 5-9 but 200+.

No reason Whitehead can't play occasional Z and more SL though.

Hes pretty dang similar in size to Hilton, Brown and Sanders if his reported weight gain of up to 183 lbs is correct. Some guys are just tough. No reason to think he couldn't be. Against the odds but definitely possible.
 
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You said short so I picked guys under 6' which is short by NFL standards where they want guys 6'2" and above for the position. He does have 4.3 speed and he runs like that on the field. Lucky putting on weight(183 lbs) is one of the reasons I give him a shot to be a starter. I haven't busted out the anointing oil yet.

Brown is all of 1" taller.

My concern with Dunbar is his position and injury proneness. I'm willing to keep and open mind but I cannot do better than that. If Lucky starts getting hurt a lot then I'll quickly sour on him too.

Im with you buddy, Id love to see him or Butler as our number 2. It would be nice to take the top off the defense. I honestly dont feel Twill has a very high ceiling. However I do have to be fair and give him the same mulligan I gave the other wrs last year but none the less....
 

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Hes pretty dang similar in size to Hilton, Brown and Sanders if his reported weight gain of up to 183 lbs is correct. Some guys are just tough. No reason to think he couldn't be. Against the odds but definitely possible.

Yeah, if he can get out into his routes off a jam and runs them well then he can play the W, S, and Z He's not capable of playing the X since they are stuck on the LOS although he could do it on occasion esp if Dez backs off the line to the Z and lets another take the X, formation permitting.

Generally it takes a couple of years for most to learn the playbook, the ins and outs of the position, and develop the insights into finding the open spots between LBs and S and such.
 
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Did you catch that chick on 34th and Main? She was stacked!

by DDDDDD March 04, 2002

Stacked
Means you are
1.Well built, muscley
2.Packing big , breasts

People that argue semantics and think words only have one meaning are entertaining in their ignorance. Stacked also is used to describe a sports team when they have an advantage in number of talented players or when you arrange the game such that it gives an advantage ie stacking the deck.
 

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Stacked
Means you are
1.Well built, muscley
2.Packing big , breasts

People that argue semantics and think words only have one meaning are entertaining in their ignorance. Stacked also is used to describe a sports team when they have an advantage in number of talented players or when you arrange the game such that it gives an advantage ie stacking the deck.

People that utilize words malappropriately and then try to pass off correction as arguing semantics are jokes. But then again, you've always obliviously provided the board comedic relief.

I'm guessing when you got beat up as a kid you described it as "getting your bones jumped," right?
 
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