Make a good O better or a poor D average?

superonyx

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No it doesn't.

You keep screaming BPA in a very weak voice and proclaiming that all you have to do is take what you perceive as the best player. Meanwhile, you are conveniently ignoring the thousands of details that goes into successful drafting. No matter how many times you trot out Lamb as your sole example, there are many many things to be considered. Just willy nilly taking any position w/o regard for scheme, weaknesses shored up, and general improvement is the stupidest way to draft there is. No one uses that method because it is so incredibly stupid, not to mention the fact that in most years you're not going to find a clear BPA. It's mostly opinion when you're comparing closely graded players.
You want to talk about most years so you can avoid talking about this year.
No one is talking about closely rated players. You are missing the entire point of this discussion. If we have an OL or a TE graded much higher than a CB or LB then we have to draft the OL or TE.
No one is suggesting to take a guy who is rated an 8.5 over a guy rated 8.4 just because 8.5 is higher.

Your entire argument is based on stuff you make up in your head.
 

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I don’t know how much more frustrating games of not being able to stop the other teams that I can take....not having a defense has become more frustrating than I think not being able to score on offense would be
 

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We all know the owner is a follow the ball GM and I certainly can't blame him, I think every owner would be that type of GM. That sells tickets and makes happy fans.

The question is how to use that 1st pick. Make what's good better or what's poor average?

My first inclination is if not now, when? When do they start to fix this defense? Used a 1st on a WR last draft, going to do that again with an OL or TE or even wackier, a WR? They could trade Gallup and use that 10 pick on Waddle or Smith. Do not put that past this WR loving GM.

But that's not the point. Can they accomplish more this season making that offense more potent than bringing that defense up to average? This offense has the signs of being one that can average 30 ppg and all they need to do is keep 10 of their opponents under that to win the East. I do think 10 wins takes it.

So, where I've been all about fixing this D and getting started on that asap, I question whether that is the right approach for this season. And this season is all I am talking about here, not the future, 2021.

This team will ride the offense as far as it can take them so are they better off to make it better and deeper?

I do not think Pitts or Sewell will be there but Slater, Waddle and Smith might be.

Is this a case of a repeat of the 1st in 2020? At 10, there really isn't a D player but there is at least one O player worthy of that pick?

Surtain is the only D player I've seen continually break the top 10 at 10. I think that is because of the perceived need of Dallas for a D player more than where he truly falls on most boards. Are Waddle and Smith better WR's than he is a CB? Slater a better OL than he is a CB?

1st round BPA
rest of draft is for need
 

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You want to talk about most years so you can avoid talking about this year.
No one is talking about closely rated players. You are missing the entire point of this discussion. If we have an OL or a TE graded much higher than a CB or LB then we have to draft the OL or TE.
No one is suggesting to take a guy who is rated an 8.5 over a guy rated 8.4 just because 8.5 is higher.

Your entire argument is based on stuff you make up in your head.
Gawd you're a child.

Never mind, you wouldn't understand an adult convo anyway. You win. Just draft 22 TE's and you'll be happy.
 

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Every year I play fantasy football I draft two QB's before I even fill out my starting roster.
It always ends up bailing me out.
Maybe Dallas should prioritize a legit backup QB.
Something I don't think has ever even existed in Dallas.
It's only the most important position in all of sports.
 

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Focus on the defense not just better but very good. The offense has enough to work with and stay respectable. Right now, defense, defense and more defense. All through the draft.
 

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Focus on the defense not just better but very good. The offense has enough to work with and stay respectable. Right now, defense, defense and more defense. All through the draft.

I would take an average defense that can generate takeaways. We are a below average defense that struggles to create turnovers. Give our offense some extra possessions inside the 50 and suddenly we are winning more games.
 

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We need like 4-5 new defensive starters just to make this D average.
Yeah. Our problems are always wanting to one or two guys to carry the defense. tank is one of those guys plus. Our former lockdown CB was the other. Lee also when healthy. We need backups big-time as well. We have no depth on the team except At RB. Everywhere else is a bare cupboard..it smells.
 

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The question is how far from average is the defense and what will it take to get it into the top 8?

Can that happen in one off season? I do not see any real difference makers in what they picked up so it's going to be on some of the younger players stepping up, staying healthy and Quinn making the difference.

Do you see a defensive player as good an offensive player as Pitts is? I don't.
 

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The question is how far from average is the defense and what will it take to get it into the top 8?

Can that happen in one off season? I do not see any real difference makers in what they picked up so it's going to be on some of the younger players stepping up, staying healthy and Quinn making the difference.

Do you see a defensive player as good an offensive player as Pitts is? I don't.
We have some guys currently on the roster who could make a bigger impact this season.

And average to me is closer to 16th . I could see this defense climbing closer to 16th ranked.

Can our offense remain near the top?

TE or OL might make more sense for us in 1st round and still have a defense heavy draft.
 

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You can't expect too much from a draft. We need 4 out of our first 6 picks to be defensive but I'm not expecting them to be difference makers. Rookies rarely make a big impact so most of the improvement has to come from guys already on the roster along with FA signings.
 

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The question is how far from average is the defense and what will it take to get it into the top 8?

Can that happen in one off season? I do not see any real difference makers in what they picked up so it's going to be on some of the younger players stepping up, staying healthy and Quinn making the difference.

Do you see a defensive player as good an offensive player as Pitts is? I don't.

I don’t think you draft a defensive player if Pitts is still available. You have a trade lined up which would net two first rounders at the very least and trade back. Surtain is interesting but I am concerned that he doesn’t have the short field quickness. Does have a hint of Sherman in him though.
 

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Every year I play fantasy football I draft two QB's before I even fill out my starting roster.
It always ends up bailing me out.
Maybe Dallas should prioritize a legit backup QB.
Something I don't think has ever even existed in Dallas.
It's only the most important position in all of sports.

They just did that last season with Dalton. But they shouldn’t use any pick before round 4 on a qb.
 

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We all know the owner is a follow the ball GM and I certainly can't blame him, I think every owner would be that type of GM. That sells tickets and makes happy fans.

The question is how to use that 1st pick. Make what's good better or what's poor average?

My first inclination is if not now, when? When do they start to fix this defense? Used a 1st on a WR last draft, going to do that again with an OL or TE or even wackier, a WR? They could trade Gallup and use that 10 pick on Waddle or Smith. Do not put that past this WR loving GM.

But that's not the point. Can they accomplish more this season making that offense more potent than bringing that defense up to average? This offense has the signs of being one that can average 30 ppg and all they need to do is keep 10 of their opponents under that to win the East. I do think 10 wins takes it.

So, where I've been all about fixing this D and getting started on that asap, I question whether that is the right approach for this season. And this season is all I am talking about here, not the future, 2021.

This team will ride the offense as far as it can take them so are they better off to make it better and deeper?

I do not think Pitts or Sewell will be there but Slater, Waddle and Smith might be.

Is this a case of a repeat of the 1st in 2020? At 10, there really isn't a D player but there is at least one O player worthy of that pick?

Surtain is the only D player I've seen continually break the top 10 at 10. I think that is because of the perceived need of Dallas for a D player more than where he truly falls on most boards. Are Waddle and Smith better WR's than he is a CB? Slater a better OL than he is a CB?
Maybe a good year to trade down a few spots and pick up few more picks. This needs to be a Defense draft and O-Line depth.
 

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They just did that last season with Dalton. But they shouldn’t use any pick before round 4 on a qb.
Yeah. Why bother. We need a bunch of best pick Defensive player. Or a no brainer good O-Linemen that slid down. If we score 3 or 4 starters we will be lucky. We always grab a late round QB.
 

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They just did that last season with Dalton. But they shouldn’t use any pick before round 4 on a qb.
I guess that's true but hard to say Dalton was a legit backup. He was 2-11 with the Bengals in 2019 and had 14 INTs in 13 games, 59% completion percentage. Note quite what I'm looking for as a backup. I'd rather have taken Jalen Hurts in round 2.
 

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You just gotta take the best player at position of need.


Pitts is an exception to the rules because he is a rare talent and you shouldn’t pass on that for some guy who likely has no impact on the outcome of a game like Surtain.

Pitts could be a double digit TD guy consistently as well as providing all kinds of matchup problems.

Best player AVAILABLE. PERIOD
 
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