Malik Collins' improvement

[Doomsdayblitz]

The kids no nick Hayden but golden nonetheless

 

[xwalker]

If current trends continue, look for DT Malik Collins to have a huge game vs the Giants. Being early retired, I have the time to go back over Cowboys games & slow-mo my DVR to watch individual players & their impact on the games. Collins has continued to up his play each game this season. Versus the Vikings, he was in the backfield at least 10 times. He either hurried or was part of sacking the QB 6 times. That is why he has been starting lately. The kid has honed several moves, including a spin, arm over, & club move to free himself from his blocker. When we can get pressure up the middle, the QB either has to hurry his throw, or eat the ball. He can't step up. Along with McClain, Irving, & Thorton, Collins & Co. have given our defense an interior presence it hasn't had in years. All we need now is more pressure from the edges, & this defense can be dangerous.

Yes, Collins is good. He has started 10 games. He was good against the run from the beginning but has continually improved as a pass rusher.

He is finally that big body DT (311 pounds) that some of us have wanted for a long time.

The Cowboys have been smallish a DT going back to the Wade Phillips days with Ratliff. Josh Brent was the 1 big body they've had and he didn't have Collins' type quickness.

 

[Doomsdayblitz]

Yes, Collins is good. He has started 10 games. He was good against the run from the beginning but has continually improved as a pass rusher.

He is finally that big body DT (311 pounds) that some of us have wanted for a long time.

The Cowboys have been smallish a DT going back to the Wade Phillips days with Ratliff. Josh Brent was the 1 big body they've had and he didn't have Collins' type quickness.

Nolan Nawrocki's assessment of Collins in his 2016 NFL Draft Preview was as follows: "A quick, active one-gap penetrator most ideally suited to shoot gaps as a 3-technique in a "40" front. Ability to consistently create pressure is his calling card". "Scout's take": "Is a bit undersized, but is powerful. Reminded me a lot of DT Gerald McCoy when he was a sophomore. I saw him live in the fall, & it looked like he had some ankle issues. That could be why his production was down from a year ago". Indeed, it was. Our guy is getting healthier & is shooting gaps and mucking up the works in the backfield, which is what I love most about him.

 

[xwalker]

Nolan Nawrocki's assessment of Collins in his 2016 NFL Draft Preview was as follows: "A quick, active one-gap penetrator most ideally suited to shoot gaps as a 3-technique in a "40" front. Ability to consistently create pressure is his calling card". "Scout's take": "Is a bit undersized, but is powerful. Reminded me a lot of DT Gerald McCoy when he was a sophomore. I saw him live in the fall, & it looked like he had some ankle issues. That could be why his production was down from a year ago". Indeed, it was. Our guy is getting healthier & is shooting gaps and mucking up the works in the backfield, which is what I love most about him.

Good writeup. Collins was my 2nd ranked DT in the draft.

He is a big body but scouts sometimes refer to 6-2 DTs as undersized. He was 311 pounds pre-draft.

As discussed in the past, he fell in the draft because if the scheme they used at his college. They had him 2-gapping.

I think his production with the Cowboys could be even better if Marinelli would quit running stunts so often. The did stunt less against the Vikings than in most other games.

 

[Manster68]

I'm not saying that Collins/Brown are first round caliber players BUT...as rookies, they've been playing on that level.

We have FOUR players playing to the level you expect a first round pick to play at or more.

Just think, that number could go up by this time next season. Here is hoping for the other five (J. Smith, Tapper, Frazier, Jackson, & Geathers) to grow into solid players as well next season. Unsure if we will see any of these the rest of this season.

 

[MagicMan]

Been waiting for a chance to bring this up. I think Collins is having an impact because he's one of the few guys playing DL for us that isn't undersized.

Compare our OL to our DLine. Why is it that 75% of our DLinemen are under 285? We don't have a single offensive lineman under 300 pounds. 6 of 9 DLine players are at 285 or under. Is this simply Marinelli's preference at play here?

One reason we struggle to get pressure is likely that most of the guys we have rushing the passer are outweighed by 25 pounds or more.

Tyron Smith: 320
Zack Martin: 310
Travis Frederick: 318
Ronald Leary: 320
Doug Free: 318
La'el Collins: 321
Chaz Green: 300
Joe Looney: 315
Emmett Cleary : 324

Jack Crawford: 288
DeMarcus Lawrence: 270
Benson Mayowa: 240
Charles Tapper: 271
Tyrone Crawford: 285
David Irving: 273
Maliek Collins: 311
Terrell McClain: 302
Cedric Thornton: 309

That is not a typo. Mayowa is listed officially at 240.

Mayowa at 240? Wow....I have a cousin bigger than that;....... and she would probably have 10 sacks by now, with 5 TFL and 3 FF.

She may have a slow 40 time, but she has a quick first step and is a great trash talker.

 

[big dog cowboy]

Nolan Nawrocki's assessment of Collins in his 2016 NFL Draft Preview was as follows: "A quick, active one-gap penetrator most ideally suited to shoot gaps as a 3-technique in a "40" front. Ability to consistently create pressure is his calling card". "Scout's take": "Is a bit undersized, but is powerful. Reminded me a lot of DT Gerald McCoy when he was a sophomore. I saw him live in the fall, & it looked like he had some ankle issues. That could be why his production was down from a year ago". Indeed, it was. Our guy is getting healthier & is shooting gaps and mucking up the works in the backfield, which is what I love most about him.

Good stuff.

 

[Silver Surfer]

Mayowa at 240? Wow....I have a cousin bigger than that;....... and she would probably have 10 sacks by now, with 5 TFL and 3 FF.

She may have a slow 40 time, but she has a quick first step and is a great trash talker.

You here all week?

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

You here all week?

Hopefully not lol.

 

[Proof]

Don't forget it was the Vikings oline

But he is doing better, I just don't expect he'll have the same perf

Giants o line sucks too.

I still thank heavens they drafted flowers (largely due to our success) over Gurley.

Whew

 

[manster4ever]

I was convinced he'd be a solid, but unspectacular run stopper in the middle.....I was wrong

Thought Dak could develop into a solid backup to Romo in a 2-3 years time....LOL!!!!!!!!!

Thought Zeke would be good but not great addition based on.....I don't know what. Simply thought he was a product of great Olines at OSU like some Bama backs are made by their Olines and don't do much in the NFL. THIS is the one that was the worst on my part. My gosh has he been unreal.

Randy at D.End...was dead on about him.

Smith at ND....who knows? Thought he'd be a good gamble in the 4th round, not the 2nd. Love to be wrong next year though.

bottom line: I would make a miserable scout or GM!

 

[TrailBlazer]

With Pugh reportedly not playing this week.. I like Collins to have a big game.

 

[DallasEast]

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Always nice to see someone who can see all positions on the field and not just two or three tops.

Good thread.

 

[dogunwo]

I'm not saying that Collins/Brown are first round caliber players BUT...as rookies, they've been playing on that level.

We have FOUR players playing to the level you expect a first round pick to play at or more.

If we drafted him in the 2nd round with the level he has been playing at, there would be no complaints. Before he was drafted I said I saw a lot of Kris Jenkins in him. To me, he plays with the same combination of power and speed. I believe his ceiling is just below Aaron Donald. He's that good.

 

[dogunwo]

Just wait until next year.

Please eradicate that statement from your mentality. That is the Commanders mantra.

 

[manster4ever]

With Pugh reportedly not playing this week.. I like Collins to have a big game.

Dunno about that. This article makes it seem like he can go. (at least that's what he says) I'd like to see him go. Coming off a sprained MCL? Yeah...throw him out there.

http://www.nj.com/giants/index.ssf/2016/12/giants_justin_pugh_did_everything_i_had_to_do_in_p.html

 

[manster4ever]

If we drafted him in the 2nd round with the level he has been playing at, there would be no complaints. Before he was drafted I said I saw a lot of Kris Jenkins in him. To me, he plays with the same combination of power and speed. I believe his ceiling is just below Aaron Donald. He's that good.

Wow....that's NICE company. He's been coming on in recent weeks, that's for sure. Doesn't look like he's hit ANY rookie wall to me.