Maller: Rumors & Notes 6/4/07

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superpunk;1518092 said:
I didn't say it wasn't a stretch. Just guessing that that was what was focused on. We see what we want to see, I guess. Read a little too much into Lewis' comments.
I know that isn't what you were saying. I was responding to the idea that is what it is based on.

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DallasEast;1518098 said:
I was just going to say that he doesn't watch Arkansas/SEC games. :)
I was floored when I read that as well. McFadden was running over my Auburn defenders. :mad:
 

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AtlCB;1518106 said:
I was floored when I read that as well. McFadden was running over my Auburn defenders. :mad:
At least you guys made contact. My LSU defenders were eating his dust. :mad:
 

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nyc;1518078 said:
He isn't half of what Peterson is. Watch all the games you want. McFadden has blazing speed, but generally goes down when he makes contact. Peterson on the other hand also has blazing speed and he (like Emmitt used to do) bounces off would-be tacklers.

Case closed and nailed shut and buried under 10 tons of concreate. Peterson is easily twice the back McFadden is. The only worry you have about Peterson is his ability to keep his center of gravity low which will prevent most injuries.

McFadden == Reggie Bush.

Peterson = Emmitt Smith with speed. (Something Emmitt never had)
I'm waiting to see how durable Peterson turns out to be. The NFL is considerably bigger and faster than NCAA div-I.
 

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AtlCB;1518106 said:
I was floored when I read that as well. McFadden was running over my Auburn defenders. :mad:

Let see.

Darren McFadden Highlight Video

As you will see, Mr. McFadden breaks exactly (1) tackle and is able to keep running throughout the entire video. If there is contact, McFadden goes down or out of bounds within 2-3 yards. All the other runs, nobody got more than a finger tip on him. Well, my friend. That won't happen in the NFL because the NFL is much faster. The lowliest team in the NFL (Raiders/Browns/whomever you wish) would route Auburn Tigers any probably any other college team.

Adrian Peterson Highlight Video

As you can see Peterson not only out runs player like McFadden, but he runs them over, breaks arm tackles, can drag players 5,6,7 even 10 yards before he goes down.

Peterson can catch like a receiver! Does McFadden? Not like a receiver he doesn't. Just watch the first few minutes of this video.

I think McFadden is a great running back, but he is bush-league compared to Peterson.

DallasEast ask if I watched SEC games, I ask him if he watched Big12 games.

Peterson > McFadden
 

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nyc;1518215 said:
Let see.

Darren McFadden Highlight Video

As you will see, Mr. McFadden breaks exactly (1) tackle and is able to keep running throughout the entire video. If there is contact, McFadden goes down or out of bounds within 2-3 yards. All the other runs, nobody got more than a finger tip on him. Well, my friend. That won't happen in the NFL because the NFL is much faster. The lowliest team in the NFL (Raiders/Browns/whomever you wish) would route Auburn Tigers any probably any other college team.

Adrian Peterson Highlight Video

As you can see Peterson not only out runs player like McFadden, but he runs them over, breaks arm tackles, can drag players 5,6,7 even 10 yards before he goes down.

Peterson can catch like a receiver! Does McFadden? Not like a receiver he doesn't. Just watch the first few minutes of this video.

I think McFadden is a great running back, but he is bush-league compared to Peterson.

DallasEast ask if I watched SEC games, I ask him if he watched Big12 games.

Peterson > McFadden

Let's assume you are correct that Peterson is greater than McFadden. Dallas had no chance to get Peterson in this past draft. They may have a chance to get McFadden. Even if he is no Peterson, he could still be a good back. Why be mad about that? I can see liking Peterson more, but how can you be angry about a player that Dallas did not get because they had no real chance to get.
 

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joseephuss;1518247 said:
Let's assume you are correct that Peterson is greater than McFadden. Dallas had no chance to get Peterson in this past draft. They may have a chance to get McFadden. Even if he is no Peterson, he could still be a good back. Why be mad about that? I can see liking Peterson more, but how can you be angry about a player that Dallas did not get because they had no real chance to get.

Honestly, I just don't think McFadden is going to be anything close to what he is in college. I see him just like Julius Jones, except he is faster and has a far better offensive line in college. Both fall down upon contact.
 

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nyc;1518267 said:
Honestly, I just don't think McFadden is going to be anything close to what he is in college. I see him just like Julius Jones, except he is faster and has a far better offensive line in college. Both fall down upon contact.

Then your opinion is that he is not a great back? Even though you said he was a great back, just not as good as Peterson. There is a difference and I am just trying to understand your point of view.

This will be a very telling year for McFadden. He will go into the season with a bulls eye on his back and Arkansas will have no QB. If he puts together a good year he may prove his future worth. I don't think it is a definite conclusion that he is destined to be a Cowboy, but I look forward to see what happens next year.
 

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nyc;1518078 said:
He isn't half of what Peterson is. Watch all the games you want. McFadden has blazing speed, but generally goes down when he makes contact. Peterson on the other hand also has blazing speed and he (like Emmitt used to do) bounces off would-be tacklers.

Case closed and nailed shut and buried under 10 tons of concreate. Peterson is easily twice the back McFadden is. The only worry you have about Peterson is his ability to keep his center of gravity low which will prevent most injuries.

McFadden == Reggie Bush.

Peterson = Emmitt Smith with speed. (Something Emmitt never had)

Dude thats just silly.

Peterson is no where near the same type back as Emmitt Smith.

Not even remotely close.

Good grief.

Smith was short, ran with amazing balance and vision.

Peterson is bigger, faster and gets hurt a whole heck of a lot more.
 

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joseephuss;1518285 said:
Then your opinion is that he is not a great back? Even though you said he was a great back, just not as good as Peterson. There is a difference and I am just trying to understand your point of view.

This will be a very telling year for McFadden. He will go into the season with a bulls eye on his back and Arkansas will have no QB. If he puts together a good year he may prove his future worth. I don't think it is a definite conclusion that he is destined to be a Cowboy, but I look forward to see what happens next year.

Like I said. Once he hits the NFL, there will be alot more contact. I'm not saying he is going to be a complete bust in the NFL. I just said I doubt he will be anywhere near as prolific. Julius Jones rushed for 1,000+ yards this season. McFadden will be able to do that too. I just don't think he will dominate like he does in college. Imagine if he ends up on a team like the Cardinals.
 

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nyc;1518215 said:
Let see.

Darren McFadden Highlight Video

As you will see, Mr. McFadden breaks exactly (1) tackle and is able to keep running throughout the entire video. If there is contact, McFadden goes down or out of bounds within 2-3 yards. All the other runs, nobody got more than a finger tip on him. Well, my friend. That won't happen in the NFL because the NFL is much faster. The lowliest team in the NFL (Raiders/Browns/whomever you wish) would route Auburn Tigers any probably any other college team.

Adrian Peterson Highlight Video

As you can see Peterson not only out runs player like McFadden, but he runs them over, breaks arm tackles, can drag players 5,6,7 even 10 yards before he goes down.

Peterson can catch like a receiver! Does McFadden? Not like a receiver he doesn't. Just watch the first few minutes of this video.

I think McFadden is a great running back, but he is bush-league compared to Peterson.

DallasEast ask if I watched SEC games, I ask him if he watched Big12 games.

Peterson > McFadden

Here is another video of McFadden:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pC9nrEBCe8Y

If you look at the end of your McFadden video, you will see McFadden catch like a receiver. My video also has a few more broken tackles (especially near the middle). I only saw McFadden forced out of bounds a few times, and he had two defenders there two of those times. He also ran over a defender to get to the end zone. I also saw a lot more solo tackles against Peterson in his highlight video. You should also take into account the level of competition in the SEC vs. that of the Big Ten. McFadden was making some of college football's best defenses look really bad. Peterson is really good, but McFadden is a special player.
 

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nyc;1518293 said:
Like I said. Once he hits the NFL, there will be alot more contact. I'm not saying he is going to be a complete bust in the NFL. I just said I doubt he will be anywhere near as prolific. Julius Jones rushed for 1,000+ yards this season. McFadden will be able to do that too. I just don't think he will dominate like he does in college. Imagine if he ends up on a team like the Cardinals.

I would take a guy who is better than Julius Jones. That would be a good thing for Dallas. I like Julius Jones. He is not great, but he can be effective especially when teamed up with Marion Barber. Give me a back who is better and Dallas will be better.

Of course McFadden won't dominate like he does in college. Peterson won't either and I like Peterson. Your sentence applies to Peterson. Once he hits the NFL, there will be a lot more contact. His game is about contact and now he will be hit by bigger and faster guys. I am rooting for him except when he faces Dallas. I do have some doubts as to how he will hold up only due to the way he runs. He is a tough, aggressive runner with an upright style. That may not be a good combination. We shall see.
 

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When a guy is so cat quick that people can't lay a glove on him it's a very good thing.
 

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Yeah. McFadden is just another overrated SEC running back. He'll probably be as bad as Bo Jackson or Herschel Walker....
 

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ZeroClub;1518323 said:
Yeah. McFadden is just another overrated SEC running back. He'll probably be as bad as Bo Jackson or Herschel Walker....
.........or Emmitt Smith.
 
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