Marco Polo possibly discover N.A.(State Washington)?

[MonsterD]

Wow if this can be verified it is pretty big.

http://www.inquisitr.com/1502237/st...er-columbus-was-not-first-to-sail-to-america/

The incredible discovery of 14 documents kept in the trunk of an Italian immigrant who settled in San Jose, California, may change history. In particular, the map found among the documents could be an incredibly stunning find. Crudely drawn on sheepskin, the map depicts what appears to be the Bering Straight, Alaska, the Aleutian Islands and the west coast of North America — specifically, Washington state.
Read more at http://www.inquisitr.com/1502237/st...first-to-sail-to-america/#3EYboUA7YUAgxyfk.99

 

[Kevinicus]

Hmm, I thought it was pretty accepted that Columbus wasn't actually the first.

 

[darthseinfeld]

Marco.......

 

[MonsterD]

Hmm, I thought it was pretty accepted that Columbus wasn't actually the first.

Aside from the Vikings who else is suggested as doing it?

 

[MyBad]

Marco.......

Polo.....

 

[Hardline]

Leif Erickson

 

[PJTHEDOORS]

Well if carbon dating on the map and the ink is authentic, then the history books need updating.

 

[MonsterD]

Well if carbon dating on the map and the ink is authentic, then the history books need updating.

Unfortunately they carbon dated it as 15t-16th century as it might have been a copy. Seems like there is nothing so far to corroborate it.

 

[joseephuss]

Unfortunately they carbon dated it as 15t-16th century as it might have been a copy. Seems like there is nothing so far to corroborate it.

I heard it had a Rand-McNally stamp on the bottom right corner.

 

[65fastback2plus2]

dont leave out Amerigo Vespucci

 

[jobberone]

Marco.......

Polo

 

[shmee]

Aside from the Vikings who else is suggested as doing it?

Polynesians have the best case for them making it to south America. Polynesian chicken bones found in S.America, and sweet potato found in Polynesia that was native to S.America.

 

[JoeyBoy718]

Hmm, I thought it was pretty accepted that Columbus wasn't actually the first.

Yep. They found a map from Leif Erikson, the Viking explorer, showing that he found America hundreds of years before America. There was a map with a body of land where America is located called Vinland.

 

[Hardline]

Carbon dating is very unreliable.

 

[PJTHEDOORS]

Yep. They found a map from Leif Erikson, the Viking explorer, showing that he found America hundreds of years before America. There was a map with a body of land where America is located called Vinland.

Chemical analyses have identified one of the major ink ingredients as a 20th-century artificial pigment.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vinland_map

 

[jobberone]

Carbon dating is very unreliable.

After 32K years or so although I think they may have moved that back in time further to 50K and at times a bit further, it's accurate. You uptake C14 while alive by consuming plants with it that absorb it from the atmosphere where in turn C12 is converted to C14 by cosmic rays. When you die you stop incorporating radioactive carbon and it decays in a linear fashion until there is non-detectable amounts left. It's very simple but limited to the half-life of C14 which is not long geologically speaking. You can date the origin of the moon with the right radioactive substances. We date the age of the earth using zircon crystals and uranium decay. You can also use strontium for billions of years.

 

[Hardline]

After 32K years or so although I think they may have moved that back in time further to 50K and at times a bit further, it's accurate. You uptake C14 while alive by consuming plants with it that absorb it from the atmosphere where in turn C12 is converted to C14 by cosmic rays. When you die you stop incorporating radioactive carbon and it decays in a linear fashion until there is non-detectable amounts left. It's very simple but limited to the half-life of C14 which is not long geologically speaking. You can date the origin of the moon with the right radioactive substances. We date the age of the earth using zircon crystals and uranium decay. You can also use strontium for billions of years.

carbon-14 dating rests on at least two simple assumptions. These are, obviously, the assumption that the amount of carbon 14 in the atmosphere has always been constant and that its rate of decay has always been constant

• Shells from living snails were carbon dated as being 27,000 years old. 3
• Living mollusk shells were dated up to 2,300 years old. 4
• A freshly killed seal was carbon dated as having died 1,300 years ago. 5
• “One part of the Vollosovitch mammoth carbon dated at 29,500 years and another part at 44,000.” 6
• “Structure, metamorphism, sedimentary reworking, and other complications have to be considered. Radiometric dating would not have been feasible if the geologic column had not been erected first.”7
• Material from layers where dinosaurs are found carbon dated at 34,000 years old.8

 

[Hardline]

 

[DallasCowpoke]

Polynesians have the best case for them making it to south America. Polynesian chicken bones found in S.America, and sweet potato found in Polynesia that was native to S.America.

Ironicly...I had the Polynesian Chicken and Sweet Potato Plate at Trader Vic's, just last night on my way home from the game. The guy at table next to me, recommended the Pina Coladas.

 

[CanadianCowboysFan]

Hmm, I thought it was pretty accepted that Columbus wasn't actually the first.

he was probably the first European to land in what is North/Central America other than Vikings who really did not keep a good written record

It is indisputable though that after Columbus, the new world opened up, slavery, gold, sugar, silver etc