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[juck]

hit the nail on the head.Where is the shotgun? he said.Coming from a man who also needed the shotgun to be effective I think Dallas will use it more and more now.

 

[YosemiteSam]

hit the nail on the head.Where is the shotgun? he said.Coming from a man who also needed the shotgun to be effective I think Dallas will use it more and more now.

The problem is that Andre Gurode has trouble with the shotgun snap.

 

[Tass]

The problem is that Andre Gurode has trouble with the shotgun snap.

Well, my God, have him practice. He's a professional athlete is he not?

 

[peplaw06]

Also... and I dont know if this was discussed earlier this week.... but Norm was talking about why the shotgun wouldn't work. Besides Gurode having trouble snapping it, Bledsoe would still take a drop back after the shotgun. Starting 4 yards or so back, then dropping another 3-5 steps would put him 8 yards or so behind the LOS. That would allow the DEs to rush almost straight upfield. When they rush straight upfield, Bledsoe would have to step up into a pocket that is collapsing from the middle, since the middle of the OL wasn't doing the job either. Then if the OL still couldn't get them blocked, then a Bledsoe sack would cost us more yardage. No thanks.

The solution is better blocking with fewer mental errors. Easier said than done, but maybe they just had a bad game.

 

[YosemiteSam]

Well, my God, have him practice. He's a professional athlete is he not?

Thats what everyone said about Shaq's free throws. Where did that get him? :bang2:

 

[YosemiteSam]

Besides Gurode having trouble snapping it, Bledsoe would still take a drop back after the shotgun. Starting 4 yards or so back, then dropping another 3-5 steps would put him 8 yards or so behind the LOS. That would allow the DEs to rush almost straight upfield. Then if the OL still couldn't get them blocked, then a Bledsoe sack would cost us more yardage. No thanks.

See the problem is that the shotgun is supposed to elimiate dropping back. If you watch some of the great QBs that used the shotgun, they didn't drop back. The caught the ball and fired it within 2.5 seconds which is how long you are supposed to hold the ball. If Bledsoe is dropping back further, then Bledsoe is not using the shotgun to his advantage.

 

[AbeBeta]

I still maintain that part of the reason there was little shotgun in Philly was the crowd noise. The OL was shaky at that point. You don't want to increase the odds of them false starting do you? Now at home that will be a different story.

 

[CaptainAmerica]

All these excuses for why we can't use it are ridiculous.

Almost every team in the league uses it, but we have a C and QB who can't.

Bledsoe has used it before. I'm not saying it's the "cure-all" to our problems, but it does have some advantages. For all the teams that use it, they do so because it has advantages, not because it looks pretty.

 

[burmafrd]

There is no reason to drop back if you are running the shotgun correctly.

 

[AbeBeta]

Another major advantage of the shotgun that has not been discussed is the fatigue that DEs and DTs will experience from having to run a few extra steps each down to sack Drew. By the 4th quarter they would be so spent that we could dominate.

 

[peplaw06]

See the problem is that the shotgun is supposed to elimiate dropping back. If you watch some of the great QBs that used the shotgun, they didn't drop back. The caught the ball and fired it within 2.5 seconds which is how long you are supposed to hold the ball. If Bledsoe is dropping back further, then Bledsoe is not using the shotgun to his advantage.

Obviously I don't recall all the QBs I've seen in a shotgun, but when i noticed it, they almost always took at least a couple of steps backwards.

 

[WV Cowboy]

One thing that I hear some QB's say is that they don't like the shotgun because they have to take their eye off of the secondary while the secondary is moving in order to catch the ball, and some aren't comfortable with that.

Maybe Bledsoe isn't comfortable with the shotgun, .. if I remember right, Aikman wasn't.

 

[YosemiteSam]

I still maintain that part of the reason there was little shotgun in Philly was the crowd noise. The OL was shaky at that point. You don't want to increase the odds of them false starting do you? Now at home that will be a different story.

Actually, crowd noise should have nothing to do with it as the o-line should be watching the ball. Noise should never be an excuse for a false start.

 

[Mr Cowboy]

It is not Gurode with the problem, Bledsoe has said he does not like the shotgun..........he doesn't like it because he has to take his eyes off the coverage to catch the snap.

 

[YosemiteSam]

One thing that I hear some QB's say is that they don't like the shotgun because they have to take their eye off of the secondary while the secondary is moving in order to catch the ball, and some aren't comfortable with that.

Maybe Bledsoe isn't comfortable with the shotgun, .. if I remember right, Aikman wasn't.

It's true! Bledsoe is already antsy about the rush, taking his eyes off the defense couldn't please him.

 

[peplaw06]

Actually, crowd noise should have nothing to do with it as the o-line should be watching the ball. Noise should never be an excuse for a false start.

The noise hurts in audibling. He would have to go back up to the line so they could hear him.

 

[YosemiteSam]

Obviously I don't recall all the QBs I've seen in a shotgun, but when i noticed it, they almost always took at least a couple of steps backwards.

John Elway was a great shotgun QB.

 

[WV Cowboy]

It is not Gurode with the problem, Bledsoe has said he does not like the shotgun..........he doesn't like it because he has to take his eyes off the coverage to catch the snap.

Where did you get that avatar, man that is awful looking. Is it real ?

 

[peplaw06]

John Elway was a great shotgun QB.

Yep.... still when I'm picturing it in my mind... I'm picturing a 3 step drop after catching the snap.

If they start 4 yards back or so, and the OL drops back in pass coverage, if the QB just steps in right after catching the snap he's almost running into the back of the OL.

 

[CrazyCowboy]

Gurode sweats to much and the ball is slick for the shot gun is one problem