Marion Barber and Bo Jackson

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ABQCOWBOY;1844289 said:
Off the top of my head I'd say Little Joe Morris of the Giants and Both Terry and Eric Metcalf would probably be on that list. I think Jim Otis was the starter in St. Louise, at the time Terry was playing and Kevin Mack in Cleveland when Eric played.
First, thanks for those names.

Joe Morris made two Pro Bowls, both as a starter.

I could be wrong, but I think Terry Metcalf was the starting RB, and Otis was the Cards' starting FB. Eric also appeared to be a starter (or at least he started a lot of games) when he made the Pro Bowl as a RB twice. (He also made it as a kick returner later in his career.)

Somebody on another board mentioned Trace Armstrong, who went to the Pro Bowl as a pass rush specialist with the Dolphins one year. All these players had some kind of specialty (the Metcalfs were excellent kick returners) that ultimately pushed them over the edge, except for Barber and Jackson.
 

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percyhoward;1844350 said:
First, thanks for those names.

Joe Morris made two Pro Bowls, both as a starter.

I could be wrong, but I think Terry Metcalf was the starting RB, and Otis was the Cards' starting FB. Eric also appeared to be a starter (or at least he started a lot of games) when he made the Pro Bowl as a RB twice. (He also made it as a kick returner later in his career.)

Somebody on another board mentioned Trace Armstrong, who went to the Pro Bowl as a pass rush specialist with the Dolphins one year. All these players had some kind of specialty (the Metcalfs were excellent kick returners) that ultimately pushed them over the edge, except for Barber and Jackson.

If I'm not mistaken, when Eric got to Cleveland, Mack was definatly the starter. Tommy Vardell was the FB. Metcalf did everything but he didn't make the Pro Bowl as a return man. He made the Pro Bowl in 93, 94 and 97. In 93, He and Tommy Vardell shared time. Vardell actually lead the team in rushing and attempts that year. In 94, Vardell was hurt and Leroy Hoard was the starter. Metcalf was second on the team in both yards and attempts. In 97, Eric was much more of a receiver then he was a RB so there I would agree but while in Cleveland, there is no distinction. He was listed as a RB. He also caught passes and returned kicks/punts but he was listed as a RB.

Terry made the Pro Bowl in 74, 75 and 77. In 74, I think Metcalf and Otis did share the backfield but in 75 and 77, I think Otis played HB and was the starter. I think Steve Jones might have been the FB that year. In 76, the Cards drafted Wayne Morris out of SMU and in 77, he became a starter and shared time with Metcalf.

I think you may be right on Joe Morris. He made the Pro Bowl in 84 and 85. In 84, Rob Carpenter was the starter but he was a FB I believe. I don't know that the Giants ran a 1 back offense. They may have as Parcells loved the 2 TE offense. If that is the case, then Morris would also be a back up RB who made it. He did not make it as a kick returner, I don't believe as he only had 6 returns that year.

In 85, he was definatly the starter for the Giants.

James Brooks is another guy that comes to mind. Brooks made the Pro Bowl in 86, 88, 89 and 90. In 86, 89 and 90, he was defiantly the starter. However, in 88, Icky Woods was the starter and Brooks was the back up, I believe. Woods is listed as a FB but in reality, he was a HB in that offense. Stanly Wilson was the FB, I believe. Woods was hurt in the Super Bowl and never really recovered. I think he would be another one you could consider.

Dave Megget is another guy. He made it in 89 and in 96. In 89, Anderson was the starter for the Giants in 89 and Martin was the starter for NE in 96. In both those years, Megget had excellent return years so he might have made it as a returner.

Keith Byars is another one. He was a FB but in the year he won it, which was in 93 with Miami, I believe, Mark Higgins and Terry Kirby were the starters. Byars was a back up but he caught so many passes that he made it as a back up.


I don't know. There could be others. Can't think of any thou.
 

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Another classic for Tecmo Super Bowl fans:

Christian Okoye

This and the hit by Steve Atwater are the two things I remember most about him.
 

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Mavs Man;1844495 said:
Another classic for Tecmo Super Bowl fans:

Christian Okoye

This and the hit by Steve Atwater are the two things I remember most about him.

:laugh2:

Yep, when he was young, that was him alright.
 

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trickblue;1843780 said:
It is great company, but those two backs aren't even remotely in the same class...

Barber deserves the Pro Bowl recognition, but it's gonna cost us now...

Good for Barber, his hard work paid off...

BINGO!

Bo was the most pure talented RB of all time.
 

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trickblue;1843780 said:
It is great company, but those two backs aren't even remotely in the same class...

Barber deserves the Pro Bowl recognition, but it's gonna cost us now...

Good for Barber, his hard work paid off...

Not to totally hate on JJ but when I saw MB3 and didn't see JJ I said to myself "Someone with sense made the right choice"... The recognition is definitely well deserved. Congrats Barbarion!
 

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ABQCOWBOY;1844560 said:
Now that, my friend, is football.

Post of the day.

:bravo:

Those hits take me back to watching Sports Illustrated/NFL Films tapes as a kid.
 

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ABQCOWBOY;1844488 said:
If I'm not mistaken, when Eric got to Cleveland, Mack was definatly the starter. Tommy Vardell was the FB. Metcalf did everything but he didn't make the Pro Bowl as a return man. He made the Pro Bowl in 93, 94 and 97. In 93, He and Tommy Vardell shared time. Vardell actually lead the team in rushing and attempts that year. In 94, Vardell was hurt and Leroy Hoard was the starter. Metcalf was second on the team in both yards and attempts. In 97, Eric was much more of a receiver then he was a RB so there I would agree but while in Cleveland, there is no distinction. He was listed as a RB. He also caught passes and returned kicks/punts but he was listed as a RB.
I appreciate all the knowledge, and I don't want you to think I'm just shooting down the names, but a lot of the teams you mentioned used 2-back sets.

True Eric Metcalf was listed as RB on the Browns roster, but on the Pro Bowl roster, he was the kick returner. At least in '97. Mack's career was pretty much done by the time Eric made his first Pro Bowls in '93 and '94, when Eric was starting at RB. And looking at the number of carries his father had in St. Louis (no other RB had even half as many attempts) he almost had to be starter the years he made it.

Meggett only made it as a returner.

Even Brooks and Byars are listed as starting most of the games the years they made it.
 

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percyhoward;1843750 said:
Someone correct me if need be, but I believe they're the only backups to ever make the Pro Bowl.

Trace Armstrong never started in 2000, when he had 16.5 sacks as a situational rusher and made the Pro Bowl.
 

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AdamJT13;1845206 said:
Trace Armstrong never started in 2000, when he had 16.5 sacks as a situational rusher and made the Pro Bowl.
Interesting. I did not even realize he wasn't the starter that year. Thanks.
 

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Hostile;1845272 said:
Interesting. I did not even realize he wasn't the starter that year. Thanks.

Jason Taylor and Kenny Mixon were the Dolphins' starting ends.
 

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I gotta believe some offensive player pushed a defender in the back on that run.
 

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AdamJT13;1845206 said:
Trace Armstrong never started in 2000, when he had 16.5 sacks as a situational rusher and made the Pro Bowl.
Thanks, and see post #21. :)

Any besides those 3, Adam?
 
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