Marion barber the 3rd

[skinsscalper]

Jones >>>> Barber

Barber is solid but what has he done in his 1st year. Yes he came in and relieved Jones for a couple of games, but so did T. Thompson. This is a no brainer Jones should start and in certain situations Barber can come off the bench and relieve JJ.

Barber ran for 1 -100 yard game last year and several people thinks he should start over Jones??? PLEASE......................

Couldn't have said it better. And, that game came against a cream puff Cardinals team. Don't get me wrong, I love the way that Barber finishes a run. That kid milks every inch he can get out of every carry, but when JJ is on MB3 couldn't carry his jockstrap.

We have a decent dilemma, regardless, of choosing between two pretty damn decent backs. That's not too bad of a problem too have. Could be a hell of a lot worse (Hambrick are you out there?).

SS

 

[DallasDomination]

I agree with the thread starter I want to see MB3 get more touches. He might not be as hyped/FAst as Julius But he IMO is the more reliable back. JJ was having trouble even getting past the LOS, Mb3 got past and a little more, he got much needed first downs....Big plays are nothing if they come in tiny little bunches, it's all about moving the chains something JJ struggled badly last year. But that's beyond the point, MB3 Runs with determination, I lOVE It and want to see more of it....


bring it baby:starspin

 

[DallasDomination]

Couldn't have said it better. And, that game came against a cream puff Cardinals team. Don't get me wrong, I love the way that Barber finishes a run. That kid milks every inch he can get out of every carry, but when JJ is on MB3 couldn't carry his jockstrap.

We have a decent dilemma, regardless, of choosing between two pretty damn decent backs. That's not too bad of a problem too have. Could be a hell of a lot worse (Hambrick are you out there?).

SS

Whens the last time JJ knocked a defender to his Butt and kept on Moving?

Also what about the Chiefs Game? Talk about having a young man that understands how to be a passing threat and a running threat...Much love to JJ but I think he's a little weak. Still love the DUO though so dont flame me lol.

 

[skinsscalper]

Whens the last time JJ knocked a defender to his Butt and kept on Moving?

Also what about the Chiefs Game? Talk about having a young man that understands how to be a passing threat and a running threat...Much love to JJ but I think he's a little weak. Still love the DUO though so dont flame me lol.

No need to flame, it's all good. But, let me ask you this. When was the last time you saw Barry Sanders knock a defender to his butt? Is MB3 better than him too?

The difference is a running style. When was the last time you saw MB3 juke a defender out of his jock? J.J. is weak huh? Well, the little weakling has two of the biggest rushing days in Dllas Cowboys history. MB3 sniffed 100 yards once against a pansy ***ed Cards team. Since then he's beennothing more than a complimentary player (and that was while JJ was down and the Cowboys NEEDED MB3 to produce. Toput it lightly the kid never made anyone forget about Emmitt Smith (and yes, on occassion, JJ actually has).

I'll give props to MB3 on the Chiefs game, especially that last scoring drive, the kid was money. But, one drive and one decent game against a bunch of cream puffs does not a legend make. We'll have this arguement again IF MB3 actually becaomes somebody (and the same arguement can be made for JJ, but my money is on JJ by a LOOOOONG ways).

SS

 

[Derinyar]

Jones right now looks like a better back, when hes healthy. Most of the times that back have a good looking game its because they have busted at least one long run. That cheifs game from Barber would look rather pedestrian if you remove his 28 yard run.

RB passes work best in situations where your not expecting them. For everyone saying that Barber is such a better recieving option than Jones why don't the stats show that? They show that JJ had a lot more balls thrown his way and had about the same yards per reception. That makes me think they are probably about even every thing considered in this phase.

I just think Julius is a better running back. I think he needs a little more hole, but when he gets it hes a much better back than Barber. Remember Barber also got some long runs when they were calling runs in passing situations.

I'd just say that Jones is a better talent but that still has a few questions left to answer.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Jones right now looks like a better back, when hes healthy. Most of the times that back have a good looking game its because they have busted at least one long run. That cheifs game from Barber would look rather pedestrian if you remove his 28 yard run.

RB passes work best in situations where your not expecting them. For everyone saying that Barber is such a better recieving option than Jones why don't the stats show that? They show that JJ had a lot more balls thrown his way and had about the same yards per reception. That makes me think they are probably about even every thing considered in this phase.

I just think Julius is a better running back. I think he needs a little more hole, but when he gets it hes a much better back than Barber. Remember Barber also got some long runs when they were calling runs in passing situations.

I'd just say that Jones is a better talent but that still has a few questions left to answer.

 

[burmafrd]

Homers will never admit they are wrong. No point in using facts, etc- they will ignore it. MB is a good back, but that is all. He WILL NEVER scare a D like Jones already does. The D will NEVER ADJUST when he is in the game the way they do when JJ is in the game. SImple fact.

 

[Rack]

Homers will never admit they are wrong.

Oooooh man... you have no idea how funny that is coming from you.


In all seriousness, and I really am being serious here, you have a serious JuJo man-love issue. I know you'll just get upset and flame/insult me for saying it, but it's true. Not trying to be a ****. I just think (and I'm sure EVERYONE here will agree with me) that when it comes to JuJo you fail to see any point of view other then your own.


^^^ And before you even bother trying to spin anything, that statement has NOTHING to do with MB3. I agree that JuJo is the better RB, but the way you make it out you'd think JuJo was the next Tony Dorsett and MB3 is just a tad better then Hambrick.


Fact is there isn't a big difference in QUALITY between the two. MB3 does some things better then JuJo and JuJo does some things better then MB3.

If I'm running a draw I want JuJo in there. If it's 3rd and 1 or a goalline situation I want MB3 in there.

MB3 has better hands then JuJo, but JuJo is more of a threat to do something with the ball in his hands when he makes a catch.


Overall, about even but the edge goes to JuJo. That said, it's not like one or the other can't improve substantially next season and pull away from the other guy.

 

[burmafrd]

Yes I am a JJ homer. No arguement. I SAID I think that MB is a good back. Hambone NEVER was. SO I call you out on that LIE.

 

[burmafrd]

And, unlike the MB homers, I have FACTS to back up my homerism.

 

[Rack]

Yes I am a JJ homer. No arguement. I SAID I think that MB is a good back. Hambone NEVER was. SO I call you out on that LIE.

You can call me out all you want. Fact is I didn't "Lie" about anything. I didn't refer to any specific quote from you.


I said "but the way you make it out you'd think JuJo was the next Tony Dorsett and MB3 is just a tad better then Hambrick".


I'm sure that's not too difficult for you to understand.

And, unlike the MB homers, I have FACTS to back up my homerism.

You're quote...



"MB is a good back, but that is all. He WILL NEVER scare a D like Jones already does"


This is purely your opinion. There isn't a shred of "Fact" involved in that.


It's not just the "make you miss" RBs that can "scare" a defense.


And I doubt either one of our RBs have "Scared" a defense to date. They BOTh have the potential to do so, but neither one of them are established enough to make that claim, homerism or no homerism.

 

[dmq]

I think people are going a little crazy here. First, I have never ever heard MBIII being projected as a first rounder or second for that matter. Second, lets say he is a good back. He is not great. He to me is a good change of pace back who can fill in when Julius is hurt. He has some nice receiving skills. He is not on par with the talent that Julius brings to the table. I like him and am glad we drafted him. He provides good depth, but lets not kid ourselves here.

 

[burmafrd]

MB does not have the TALENT to scare a D. He cannot run fast enough to score from more then 30 yds away. He is not shifty enough or quick enough to scare D backs. So I make the plain simple STATEMENT that he CANNOT scare D's the way JJ does.

 

[Rack]

MB does not have the TALENT to scare a D. He cannot run fast enough to score from more then 30 yds away. He is not shifty enough or quick enough to scare D backs. So I make the plain simple STATEMENT that he CANNOT scare D's the way JJ does.

And your statement is based purely on your opinion. PERIOD.



And Parcells himself said MB3 has the ability to make people miss.


But whatever, don't let me get in the way of your homerism.

 

[DeaconMoss]

bs

mb3 is just as good if not better

 

[DeaconMoss]

MB does not have the TALENT to scare a D. He cannot run fast enough to score from more then 30 yds away. He is not shifty enough or quick enough to scare D backs. So I make the plain simple STATEMENT that he CANNOT scare D's the way JJ does.

you are crazy if you think mb3 does not get at least 40% of the carries this year!