Mark My Words (MMW): Draft Edition

[TasteMyScythe]

Shemar Stewart will be the Cowboys pick at 12 and the fan base will flip their wigs.

 

[Dalmations202]

Shemar Stewart will be the Cowboys pick at 12 and the fan base will flip their wigs.

I'd like a SStewart pick, but 16-24

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

Here’s another hot take:

I don’t think Walter Nolen is half the prospect a lot of media scouts purport him to be.

I’ve done a deep dive on him, watching actual game cut ups (ie. all snaps, not just highlights) and here’s my thoughts:

• He has no pass rush repertoire…none. He has one go-to move which is a bull rush. Sometimes it’s effective which is what you see in the highlights. More often than not, he’s left hand fighting as the play goes past him.
• He glacially slow on stunts or when he tries to run down plays on the backside. I don’t like his movement skills at all. It’s very dubious to me how he’s going to test out at the Combine. It will be interesting to see how he performs in the agility drills.
• He loses track of the ball. This was a criticism I saw of Mazi when he came out too. He often gets caught up in the hand fighting (similar to pass rush criticism) because he has no arsenal of moves to shed blockers and he loses sight of the ball carrier.

Some of these issues can possibly be refined at the pro level, but I’m not seeing a Day 1 starting caliber prospect, but rather a rotation type guy at least early in his career.

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

Adding to this…

I think receiver Kyle Williams (Washington State) may end up being taken much higher than anticipated. I think there’s a strong possibility he goes late 1st round or early Round 2.

 

[Pass2Run]

I agree with #4, which is why I take Warren if he's there.

 

[Pass2Run]

Adding to this…

I think receiver Kyle Williams (Washington State) may end up being taken much higher than anticipated. I think there’s a strong possibility he goes late 1st round or early Round 2.

My receiver in this draft, outside of Warren, is Jack Bech. He has Welker/Amendola vibes.

 

[NDGAEDE]

Adding to this…

I think receiver Kyle Williams (Washington State) may end up being taken much higher than anticipated. I think there’s a strong possibility he goes late 1st round or early Round 2.

I agree with this. Speed that shows up in the game, great routes, production, playmaker (17 yds a catch)... plus a stellar week at the Senior Bowl. If he doesn't sneak into 1, he'll go top 10 in 2, is my guess.

The guy I can't get a read on is Tre Harris. Is he the real deal or another Mingo?

 

[kskboys]

I worry most about his lack of durability and would not draft him over any of the top 3, I have him on the next tier. Yes, had home run ability, but lack of vision is a huge concern for many back as they aren’t going to have gaping holes to run through on the next level

Also lacks lateral agility. Just too straighlinish.

 

[Creeper]

I agree with all of this. I don't know where Walker will be drafted but being big by itself is like WRs who are just fast. Technique is so important in the NFL. Guys like Walker, and there are a few DTs in this draft who are on the tall side, they have to play with proper technique or NFL offensive linemen will bully them, no matter how strong they are. Walker plays high too much of the time. The question is can he learn to get lower? We'll have to see but that is the risk teams will take if they want to draft him. His shape, to me, is not an issue. I've seen guys with awful bodies play well.

Henderson has a chance to be a top RB. He has a lot of the gifts. But I am not as certain of this as I am of your third point about the QBs. I predict some QB taken in the later rounds will be as good as if not better than Shedeur. I just do not get the hype around him. Ward looks like a 3rd or 4th round QB to me. Shedeur needs to make a giant leap to be successful in the NFL. But I am concerned his weakness may be his mental game. That's hard to overcome.

I strongly agree about Tyler Warren. I know he plays a low value position, but I think he has the potential to be a real difference maker for the right team. Remember all the hype around Kyle Pitts? I think Warren will make a better TE in the long run. Pitts is more of a WR than a TE.

btw, I feel the same way about the offensive linemen in this draft as I do the QBs. Aside from Membou who I think is the closest offensive lineman to being a sure thing, the rest of the tackles and guards do not excite me at all. There are some good ones just not guys I think are sure things.

Overall this is the weirdest draft class I can remember where QBs, WRs, CBs are thin and DL and RBs are so deep.

I could be wrong about all of this, which is why I am sitting here on a forum instead of working for an NFL team.

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

Told y'all...

Mark my words....

1. Deone Walker will not get picked until Day 3. This is a bad-body (literal gut)/long torso/short-legged prospect that plays without any semblance of technique and without a clear position.

 

[BermyStar]

Is Jerimiah(sp) Smith not looking like man amongst boys as Freshman.

What are his projections? TO?

Looks like he is either TO, if he gets leaner, or he gets fat with that body mass. Obviously he can play a few years before body mass catches up....but damn...he looks bigger, stronger than everyone as a freshman.

These guys are weird to me...than can go either way, awesome or bust, or move positions.

Kid seems too big to be a freshman.

I see Julio Jones

 

[gimmesix]

Told y'all...

He was one of the few DTs I did not want because I think he is going to have a leverage problem due the fact that he's tall and doesn't play low. NFL offensive linemen are excellent with leverage and they will move him off the ball despite his girth.

I was much happier that we took Toia in the seventh instead of Walker earlier. Toia may not amount to much, but I think he has a much better chance of succeeding in his role as a run plug than Walker has of succeeding as a big man who can move.

 

[gtb1943]

He was one of the few DTs I did not want because I think he is going to have a leverage problem due the fact that he's tall and doesn't play low. NFL offensive linemen are excellent with leverage and they will move him off the ball despite his girth.

I was much happier that we took Toia in the seventh instead of Walker earlier. Toia may not amount to much, but I think he has a much better chance of succeeding in his role as a run plug than Walker has of succeeding as a big man who can move.

I think Toia COULD BE what we have been looking for on run D.
COULD because how often do seventh rd picks really matter
Jay Ratliff was a real outlier