Marnelli On Det Roy Williams And Rogers...

TellerMorrow34

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They couldn't have been watching him. Unless they watch ever Detriot game of the season in hopes of catching the 2 of the 16 he bothers to show up and play in.
 

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sjordan6;1932244 said:
As i have said before...I see the cowboys trading bobby carpenter, marcus spears, tank johnson, and sam hurd for roy williams and shaun rogers and switching draft choice of the cowboys 22nd for detroits 15th.


What a ridiculous trade.
 

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sjordan6;1932303 said:
Remember you guys was saying the same thing about Leonard Davis and see how it turned out. Going from a losing culture to a premier franchise could do wonders for a player and the team. I actually think he would be better at nose than both Ratliff and Fergie. The guy playing weight is 340. HUGE!
Yup, same thing things were said about Leonard Davis last year especially after the contact JJ signed him to. A lot of short-term memory, revisionist history going on here..... :)
 

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windward;1932394 said:
I know, this is not the NBA or MLB where we see six, seven, eight player trades.
That's the problem that Fantasy Football has caused real Football fans.
 

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BraveHeartFan;1932257 said:
What in the blue hell would we want Shaun "I like to disappear for 8-10 straight games a season" Rogers for?

That is the most idiotic trade idea I've seen yet. Yeah, sure, lets give up Johnson who we've got for peanuts in place of a guy whose only going to play if he has a HUGE contract.

Rogers will not be playing in Dallas. He's extremely talented but he's extremely lazy, has zero work ethic, and doesn't care in the least about actually being a dominate DT.

Roy Williams might wind up in Dalls but Shaun Rogers will not.


I agree 100%, Marinelli is bluffing and hoping someone dumb enough will actually give him something for that giant waste of a talent.
 

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Hostile;1932400 said:
Step away from the controller.


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I agree with that trade except for Tank Johnson, I don't think we trade him. But the trade would only include Roy E. Williams and not Rogers. Rogers salary for the next 3 years is 4.25 Mil, 5.5 mil, and 7.25 mil, that isn't cap charge that is just salary. His cap charge is 7 mil in 2008. He signed a 46 mil contract that included 15 mil in bonus (3 mil per year of the 5 year contract).

No way Detroit is going to pay the roster bonus of 1 mil on March 1st, then his cap number would be 8.25 mil in 2008. If Detroit releases him, they will take a 4 mil hit to the cap if the number by the Free Press are right.

Bet is they release him by Feb 29th. I just wouldn't even attempt to renegotiate a bad contract with him. He is 29, overweight, has stamina problems but I would sign him to an incentive contract and see if we could reabilitate him which I believe we could. He would be a very nice rotation with Tank Johnson and move Ratliff to DE to replace Spears.

One thing to consider is that Detroit wants defense and a true LT and if Flo hits the market they are said to be willing to give him whatever he wants. Seems like we should sign Flo or franchise him and make a better trade.
 

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I hate fat players. I was very happy to see Roy Williams (our safety) slim down last season.
 

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sjordan6, FYI in regards to your long post...Charles Rogers hasn't been a wide receiver for the Lions or any team in the league now for the past two years...........
 

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Make it clean, make it easy.

Greg "No one loves me, give me more money" Ellis and the 4th pick for WR Roy Williams and Shaun Rogers.

Detroit is desperate for a pass rush, and would be willing to tear up Ellis' contract and pay him.
 

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The only way Rogers is coming to Dallas is if something like the poster a couple back mentioned happens and he gets cut and comes to Dallas for a MUCH smaller contract full of incentives.

It's the only way that lazy piece of junk is going to play.


As for the reports on Davis those we're overblown and piss poor. The big reason he wasn't nearly as good there, as Arizona wanted, was cause they had him playing out of position at LT. While he's a passable LT, he's not a dominate one. He's a dominate RG. So that is Arizonas fault for being stupid.

Rogers is totally different cause the guy litterly disappears for 10-12 games at a time, only showing up for about 3 contests a year, and has done so his entire year with the exception of his contract year when he was trying to earn that gigantic, fat, contract that Detriot gave him. Soon as they did they've had the two seasons they've had with him since. WHere he's back to not caring, not playing hard, and isn't going to.
 

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Sandyf;1932785 said:
I agree with that trade except for Tank Johnson, I don't think we trade him. But the trade would only include Roy E. Williams and not Rogers. Rogers salary for the next 3 years is 4.25 Mil, 5.5 mil, and 7.25 mil, that isn't cap charge that is just salary. His cap charge is 7 mil in 2008. He signed a 46 mil contract that included 15 mil in bonus (3 mil per year of the 5 year contract).

No way Detroit is going to pay the roster bonus of 1 mil on March 1st, then his cap number would be 8.25 mil in 2008. If Detroit releases him, they will take a 4 mil hit to the cap if the number by the Free Press are right.

Bet is they release him by Feb 29th. I just wouldn't even attempt to renegotiate a bad contract with him. He is 29, overweight, has stamina problems but I would sign him to an incentive contract and see if we could reabilitate him which I believe we could. He would be a very nice rotation with Tank Johnson and move Ratliff to DE to replace Spears.

One thing to consider is that Detroit wants defense and a true LT and if Flo hits the market they are said to be willing to give him whatever he wants. Seems like we should sign Flo or franchise him and make a better trade.
Not that I am in favor of picking up Rogers but in point of fact if we traded for him we would not pick up the signing bonus portion of the cap hit; that would remain with Detroit and it will cost them a 9 mil cap hit to get rid of him before June 1 or it will cost them 4.5 this year and another 4.5 next year after June 1. When you trade for a player all you pick up is his salary and any remaining roster bonuses that he might have coming...not the signing bonus.

I am most definitely NOT in favor of getting rid of Tank. He has played well for us and we have him for a song. Spears could be better and certainly does not live up to his draft status and with Ratliff and Hatcher (who I expect to be coming on this year) in line behind him he is definitely trade bait IMO. And trade all the Bobby Carpenter you want to. If we could swing Carpenter and Spears for Roy Williams it might be a deal worth doing.
 
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