Marten best lineman last night

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I went back over the tape last night, specifically focusing on the offensive line, and was surprised to see James Marten have a really solid game at right tackle. Up until this game he was the odd man out, especially after acquiring Montrae Holland, but now I just think Dallas was trying at a position that's not a good fit for him. At tackle, he showed very good form, cutting off the inside rush and moving and sliding to push rushers wide on outside rushes. It might have been a product of whom he was facing, but he just played very well and I hope that after Dallas reviews the tape that it keeps him and leaves him at tackle.

The next-best lineman was probably Cory Proctor. Proctor didn't have many mistakes and he didn't get pushed back near as much as in previous games. He didn't move the line of scrimmage, but he didn't give up ground and he was technically strong. When moved to guard, he did allow a lineman to swim around him, but kept a hand on him (possibly held) to keep him from going to the quarterback.

After that, we weren't very good overall. Free was having a good game until his guy went wide to get around him and hit the quarterback twice (the first one was at least partly Bartel's fault for holding the ball too long). After that, he either overcompensated or lost confidence and was beaten several times.

Berger was very good on the move, but missed a stunt and was beaten a lot by an up-and-under move. For a guy who is supposed to be one of the strongest linemen in the weight room, he doesn't show a lot of strength on the field. I would not be comfortable with him in the starting lineup, but the only time he's consistently good is when he's pulling or going to the second level.

McQuistan was worst of all and did nothing to deserve to start. It's amazing to me that the guy who is supposed to be the most athletic lineman on the team shows no agility, no ability to adjust well in space. About the only positive I saw was good speed on screen. Other than that, he was beaten regularly often not getting low enough to keep his man from driving through him.

If I had to pick a lineman from this group to start at guard, I'd go with Proctor. He plays with good technique and doesn't get outright beat very often, so he's the safest choice even though he's not going to add anything to the line. But we'd be best off getting Holland ready.

The lineman that I would cut or attempt to pawn off on Parcells is McQuistan. I sort of dismissed the pretty rough preseason he had at right tackle, but his play at guard last night showed that he's not at the level of development we should expect at this point in his career. I know he hasn't played guard really since college, but we need more than what he has shown out of our backups and it's time to move on. ... If not McQuistan, then Berger because he hasn't shown much either, but at least he made a few key blocks, esp. on Tashard Choice's two TD runs in the preseason.
 

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All of the backups looked less than stellar to me. Columbo looked great. Just plain nasty.
 

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I mentioned something earlier about Free looking bad. I agree that Marten came out of nowhere last night and put in a solid performance. Also, the running play where the hand-off got destroyed (almost a TO), that was McQ's man blowing past him.
 

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Veru nice job. Looks like we may be in the market for OL next off season.
 

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Hostile;2220260 said:
All of the backups looked less than stellar to me. Columbo looked great. Just plain nasty.

I agree...it was a fairly mediocre performance by all of them and none of them stood out. There were few holes to run through and the pass protections wasnt very good at all. Houck cant be pleased.

David
 

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I've been very surprised at all of the people wanting to get rid of Marten. For one thing, he's still awfully young. For another thing, he's very versatile. I think the guy has played almost every position on the line. And finally, he's a BC lineman, and those guys usually work out...I might be completely surprised, but I just don't think he is on the chopping block.
 

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Very nice read...I agree that Holland seems like a natural fit based on what we have right now. Holland seems like a guy who has been in the league enough but still has another level to go.

Hopefully,he can pick things up in a couple of weeks. I think we will be fine with the current backup for the first few games. Cleveland secondary defense will allow the Cowboys to score and hide us lacking a guard. Philly's line is still coming together and wasnt very good last season. GB lost a couple of lineman and their best is nursing an injury. Wash and Cincy dont have strong dlines and hopefully by then Holland would have had enough reps to fit in. Hell I think he could turn out to be an upgrade over Kosier. He was a third team All-American and three year All ACC-First Team. Although Fourth Rounder, He has been a starter for the majority of his career and would be starting now if he hadnt came to camp over weight.
 

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Man, when you get past our starters on the O line.....it is slim pickens.
 

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Man, I'm going to have to go back and watch this closely, cause I trust your analysis gimmesix, but he's been terrible and the line was terrible last night so I just assumed he owned a good bit of blame.
 

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AdamJT13;2220376 said:
When? He's listed as not playing at all last night.

Thats what I was thinking. Maybe he was just looking at his butt on the sideline! :laugh2:
 

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Jerry & Wade have made good decisions with the acquistion of Bigg and Flo resign.........Gurode signing

young kids still have a ways to go.......

Get Columbo resigned...........
 

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In fairness to McQuistan, he's been plaing Tackle this whole time and was in the last minute -just before this game - thrudt into the LG spot. His flaw was playing too high -- kinda like a T needs to play. So to want to ship a good backup T off too Parcells because he can't switch and play G in a moment's pinch is just plain foolish.
 

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Hostile;2220260 said:
All of the backups looked less than stellar to me. Columbo looked great. Just plain nasty.
I didn't think any starters played?
 

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AMERICAS_FAN;2220416 said:
In fairness to McQuistan, he's been plaing Tackle this whole time and was in the last minute -just before this game - thrudt into the LG spot. His flaw was playing too high -- kinda like a T needs to play. So to want to ship a good backup T off too Parcells because he can't switch and play G in a moment's pinch is just plain foolish.

True, but I think he also showed last night why the Cowboys went out and showed a sense of urgency about making a trade to get that position shored up.

I want to believe in Free. The scouting reports and puff pieces sound so good, but I just can't get that game against Tommy Blake out of my head when I watched TCU vs. N. Illinois. He looked like Rob Pettiti against Michael Strahan.
 

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adbutcher;2220498 said:
What are you implying? ;) :laugh2:

What was he implying when he said he looked great while not even playing? :laugh2:
 

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Ok, I have my Texas Homer hat on, Free was facing Brian Robison who had great metrics before his draft. I'll bet the Viking fan sites are talking about him(Robison) the way we are thinking about George.
 

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dogberry;2220577 said:
Ok, I have my Texas Homer hat on, Free was facing Brian Robison who had great metrics before his draft. I'll bet the Viking fan sites are talking about him(Robison) the way we are thinking about George.

Like I borderline roster player who took advantage of some poor schlub?
 
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