Matt Miller 3/31/17

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—Keep an eye on Ohio defensive end Tarell Basham. One scout I spoke to this week said he saw the Dallas Cowboys and Houston Texans "all over" the edge-rusher.

—Pete Prisco of CBS Sports tweeted this week that he's convinced Cal quarterback Davis Webb goes in the first round. I agree with Pete. Webb doesn't have a Round 1 grade on my board, but many teams I've spoken to think he comes off the board in the late 20s when a team trades up to select him and secure his rights for five seasons as a first-rounder instead of four years as a second-rounder. A few potential targets: the Cardinals, 49ers and Browns.

5 Names to Know
5. Edge-rusher Samson Ebukam, Eastern Washington

Finding small-school talent is a tricky process, especially without a full scouting department traveling the country looking for players. One way to identify these diamonds in the rough is to look for outlier numbers in testing or in production. Eastern Washington's Samson Ebukam is on my radar after his pro day.

Check out these numbers: 4.45 40-yard dash. 39-inch vertical jump. 10'10" broad jump. 6.98-second 3-cone drill. 25 bench press reps. And he did this at 6'2" and 240 pounds.

Ebukam might be a late-rounder, but those numbers are good enough to try to develop him into a situational pass-rusher.

4. Tight End George Kittle, Iowa

I might have a little draft crush on George Kittle. The Iowa tight end has been getting pub here seemingly every week, but the combination of his athletic testing and his film is easy to get excited about. Kittle has shot up my board from a late-rounder last summer to a potential third-round target now.

Many will look at his speed and lack of catches and assume Kittle can't catch or can't block, but he's the most complete tight end prospect in the draft behind Alabama's O.J. Howard. He's pro-ready as a blocker and receiver.


3. Cornerback Cordrea Tankersley, Clemson

A top-55 player getting mentioned here might seem out of place, but Cordrea Tankersley has a shot to really rise in the draft after pro-day injuries to Sidney Jones and Fabian Moreau. After the top three corners (Marshon Lattimore, Gareon Conley, Quincy Wilson) come off the board, it's anyone's guess who is next. At 6'2" and 200 pounds with great speed (4.40 seconds) and ball skills, Tankersley could be a fit for teams like Dallas and Seattle at the back end of Round 1.

2. Defensive Lineman Larry Ogunjobi, Charlotte

It's looking more and more like Larry Ogunjobi will be drafted in the top 75 picks. This is a weak interior defensive line class, and with Ogunjobi's Grady Jarrett-like skills as a pass-rusher from the 3-technique spot, his stock could rise and even jump guys like Caleb Brantley when it's all said and done. The 6'3", 305-pounder has the first-step quickness and power to turn heads once teams finalize grades. He carries a second-third grade for me.



1. Linebacker Tanner Vallejo, Boise State

Tanner Vallejo is a little small at 6'1" and 228 pounds, but his play is very good when he's healthy. He fought through a wrist injury in 2016 and was a four-down defensive weapon in 2014 and 2015 as an excellent linebacker, rusher and even special teams player. Vallejo is an ideal off-ball linebacker prospect with some Kiko Alonso to his game. A smart team grabs him in the third round and lets him attack in space. If he can become the guy he was in 2014 and 2015, he'll be a steal.

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Wow Vallejo in the 3rd round. Man.

I like how I had no idea who Ogunjobi was before the Senior Bowl, offseason is fun.

Maye is getting basically no recognition but is interesting at SS/coverage LB.

Meh on Evans.

I'm telling you, we're in a great position to trade down if a team wants Webb/Mahomes. That'd be where Basham's value is, I've been on his bandwagon since the Senior Bowl. "He won't last until 60"
 

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If they can get an extra pick in the second or third it is OK by me. Talent is very equal there. Only reason not to is no 5th year option. I am gonna flip out if they pick at 28 and then do a Demarcus Lawrence type trade back to the top of the second at the cost of their third.
 

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I was a bit surprised that he was so certain Quicey Wilson was a top 3 CB.
Not that I dont like him ok, but I guess I teired him with a group or two lower than Latimore

I bet some dont even have Wilson as a top 8-10 CB
 
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If they can get an extra pick in the second or third it is OK by me. Talent is very equal there. Only reason not to is no 5th year option. I am gonna flip out if they pick at 28 and then do a Demarcus Lawrence type trade back to the top of the second at the cost of their third.

Hahah, yeah.

Browns have two 2nd rounders. I think they'll go BPA with their 1sts, and could definitely be a target to use their two 2nd's to move up and take one of the QB's they like.

I think ending up with three 2nd round picks is a possibility.
 

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Hahah, yeah.

Browns have two 2nd rounders. I think they'll go BPA with their 1sts, and could definitely be a target to use their two 2nd's to move up and take one of the QB's they like.

I think ending up with three 2nd round picks is a possibility.
The Browns have a newfound sanity to their drafting.
I guess if they truly think one of those guys is franchise material, they would get him.
But they have two 1sts and two 2nds next year, so they can get whoever they want.

They may want to go for home run next year (after building the trenches this year) vs a guy only worthy of a late 1st this year. Should be interesting.
 

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If we can't find a trading partner, I can see us picking Basham just like we picked Frederick. I'm good with that. I really like the player. He seems like a late riser

Also, Kittle is awesome. If we want a blocking TE right away, he's our guy.
 

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The Browns have a newfound sanity to their drafting.
I guess if they truly think one of those guys is franchise material, they may get him.
But the have two 1sts and two 2nds next year, so they can get whover they want.

They mau want to go for home run next (after building the trenches this year) vs a guy only worthy of a late 1st this year. Should be interesting.

Yep, just depends on how they value the guy that's there. If you think he can be "the dude", then two 2nd's still isn't as risky as a high 1st.
 

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Yep, just depends on how they value the guy that's there. If you think he can be "the dude", then two 2nd's still isn't as risky as a high 1st.
They were kind of spared from having to think about burning the first overall on a QB.
Garrett will be the no-brainer and a perfect fit for their new 4-3 across from Emanual Ogbah

Itd be fun to be drafting for those guys the next two years with all those picks
 

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They were kind of spared from having to think about burning the first overall on a QB.
Garrett will be the no-brainer and a perfect fit for their new 4-3 across from Emanual Ogbah

Itd be fun to be drafting for those guys the next two years with all those picks

Agreed. I'm kind of low key rooting for them :laugh:. Browns and Titans in the AFC.
 

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If we can't find a trading partner, I can see us picking Basham just like we picked Frederick. I'm good with that. I really like the player. He seems like a late riser

Also, Kittle is awesome. If we want a blocking TE right away, he's our guy.
Yep.if they want him they have to use 28.he will go in the 30s imo.
 

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The Browns have a newfound sanity to their drafting.
I guess if they truly think one of those guys is franchise material, they would get him.
But they have two 1sts and two 2nds next year, so they can get whoever they want.

They may want to go for home run next year (after building the trenches this year) vs a guy only worthy of a late 1st this year. Should be interesting.
I can see Pitt, Balt, and Cinncy head downhill in the next year or two. If Cle uses picks conservativally they can take the division for years. But they need a QB.
 

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I can see Pitt, Balt, and Cinncy head downhill in the next year or two. If Cle uses picks conservativally they can take the division for years. But they need a QB.
Yeah. Short term, those three teams are all playoff level. But they're really aging and Cleveland is building a nice core with a near record level of high draft picks the next two years.

Wouldn't that be a turn of events in 2019 or so:laugh:
 

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Cleveland had 14 picks last year. They currently have 13 for this year. You have to really specialize in sucking to not radically improve your team with that many picks.
 

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Cleveland had 14 picks last year. They currently have 13 for this year. You have to really specialize in sucking to not radically improve your team with that many picks.
You mean this team?

Season(s) Quarterback(s)
2016 Robert Griffin III (5) / Josh McCown (3) / Cody Kessler (8)
2015 Josh McCown (8) / Johnny Manziel (6) / Austin Davis (2)
2014 Brian Hoyer (13) / Johnny Manziel (2) / Connor Shaw (1)
2013 Jason Campbell (8) / Brandon Weeden (5) / Brian Hoyer (3)
2012 Brandon Weeden (15) / Thad Lewis (1)
2011 Colt McCoy (13) / Seneca Wallace (3)
2010 Colt McCoy (8) / Jake Delhomme (4) / Seneca Wallace (4)
2009 Brady Quinn (9) / Derek Anderson (7)
2008 Derek Anderson (9) / Brady Quinn (3) / Ken Dorsey (3) / Bruce Gradkowski (1)
2007 Derek Anderson (15) / Charlie Frye (1)
2006 Charlie Frye (13) / Derek Anderson (3)
2005 Trent Dilfer (11) / Charlie Frye (5)
2004 Jeff Garcia (10) / Kelly Holcomb (2) / Luke McCown (4)
2003 Kelly Holcomb (8) / Tim Couch (8)
2002 Tim Couch (14) / Kelly Holcomb (2)
2001 Tim Couch (16)
2000 Doug Pederson (8) / Tim Couch (7) / Spergon Wynn (1)
1999 Tim Couch (14) / Ty Detmer (2)
 

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Hahah, yeah.

Browns have two 2nd rounders. I think they'll go BPA with their 1sts, and could definitely be a target to use their two 2nd's to move up and take one of the QB's they like.

I think ending up with three 2nd round picks is a possibility.
How would that work? Two seconds for a first and a third?
 

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How would that work? Two seconds for a first and a third?

I was just thinking 33 and 52 for 28.

I was just making a point, it seems kinda rich but there's going to be some QB's there and other teams might be tempted to trade up too. An extra 2nd (52) to move up 5 spots into the 1st round to make sure they get their guy.

Or whatever. If I really liked a QB and thought another team might hop me to take them, I wouldn't have any problem giving my 52 pick for the one I wanted, especially since they've been loaded with picks and really just need a QB.

In that case we'd have 33, 52, and 60
 

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Would you do that if you had to give up your third?

To use a poker term, i guess i'd have to "see the flop". Haha. See how the draft fell.

As of right now, assuming most of the crazy blue chip talent was gone, yeah. Our 3rd round pick would basically be 40 slots higher to move down 5 picks.

I'd try to get away with giving a 1 + 4 at worst. But giving a 1 + 3 is better than not doing it at all.

The value just depending on who's available at 28.
 
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