Matt Moore?

[dooomsday]

Why is everyone so high on Urban? He hasn't impressed me at all. Even his punt return TD was lucky because of where he fielded the ball. Alot of people would had been furious if he did this against an NFL team's starting special teams during the regular season and got tackled inside the 10 instead of letting in roll into the endzone for 20.

I think the Hurd, Austin, and Stanback have way more potential to cut any of them in favor of Urban.

Oh, and I think Moore will not make it through waivers and we should keep him on our 53. He could be our backup in a year or 2. He's going to be Garrett's project.

I didnt start an Urban fan, nor did I become one over nite (or last nite!). But the guy fills a role. He was well liked at WR in Seattle before being injured.

I dont know how closely you followed, but he has made play after play since OTAs. He has made it this far for good reason.

Upside, yes, the others have much more. In a year where we want to win a SB, we could use immediate contribution we may not get from some of the others, especially on STs.

 

[conner01]

moore made it through the draft without anyone picking him but now we think someone will take him for their 53 man roster? i don't see it.i think he can clear waivers and while he shows some mmoxy he is still a long ways from being an nfl qb.

 

[Rack]

Matt Moore?

Will be on the practice squad.

 

[joseephuss]

I didn't see the game but when I saw the stat-line and it said a "95-yard punt return" I wondered why he was fielding it at the 5-yard line instead of letting it roll in. I figured it must have bounced and he wasn't sure that it would roll into the endzone.

I know it goes against the grain to field a punt so deep in your territory, but I thought it was a good choice. The Vikes punter killed that ball and totally out punted his coverage. Urban had plenty of room to at least get back to the 20 and with a lucky break get a bigger return. He got very lucky and turned it into a TD. I think that is a chance worth taking. It depends on getting a good read on how much room you have and he had plenty.

Now I am not set to say that is why he fielded the punt. His case was more likely he was just trying to do anything to make the team. I just don't think the guideline of never fielding a punt inside your 10 yard line should apply 100% of the time. Maybe more like 95% of the time. Last night was one of the 5%.

 

[StanleySpadowski]

I know it goes against the grain to field a punt so deep in your territory, but I thought it was a good choice. The Vikes punter killed that ball and totally out punted his coverage. Urban had plenty of room to at least get back to the 20 and with a lucky break get a bigger return. He got very lucky and turned it into a TD. I think that is a chance worth taking. It depends on getting a good read on how much room you have and he had plenty.

Now I am not set to say that is why he fielded the punt. His case was more likely he was just trying to do anything to make the team. I just don't think the guideline of never fielding a punt inside your 10 yard line should apply 100% of the time. Maybe more like 95% of the time. Last night was one of the 5%.

Don't forget that he previously fielded one at the four yard line and only returned it for a couple of yards.

 

[joseephuss]

Don't forget that he previously fielded one at the four yard line and only returned it for a couple of yards.

I didn't. That is why I am not ready to give him too much credit, but it was a different situation. He didn't have near as much room on that punt as he did last night. It was a 60 yard punt that had very little hang time and the outside guys did a good job on the gunners. It really was not the typical risk that you have when fielding a punt that deep.

 

[Stautner]

You dont think? He would have to be very highly thought of for someone to keep on their roster, which they would then have to do....

I certainly dont want to lose him but to start the season I may keep a guy like Urban. See how things shape up.

Unless we put Stanback on PS. I am not so sure he makes it thru either. He had some pursuers prior to the draft.

There are two problems with this post.

First, how do you see Urban fitting in. Whether we keep Urban will have nothing to do with whether we keep Moore - we aren't going to use that slot for a 7th WR. Urban has to beat out Austin.

Second, there is no way Stanback would clear waivers.

Need I remind you that Romo was also undrafted so that really doesn't mean much.

No one is going to snatch Moore up to be their starter but there are a lot of teams out there in need of a quality young backup and Moore has shown that he has some skills.

While other teams may like the idea of Moore as a developmental guy, no one is going to view him as a quality backup NOW - I can't see a team using an actual active roster spot on him other than possibly us, and that's pretty iffy.

 

[dooomsday]

Stuatner, I probably agree. I dont think Stanback clears either.

But if Urban made the team, however they made room, he would contribute more this year than Austin will. I am sure the CBs are thinking that over now or he would have been gone a loooong time ago and his reps given to guys who will be here. JMO.

I am not predicting Uran will make the team or anything. But you have to wonder why he is here. Its not because we need a body at WR. He makes plays.

 

[Stautner]

Stuatner, I probably agree. I dont think Stanback clears either.

But if Urban made the team, however they made room, he would contribute more this year than Austin will. I am sure the CBs are thinking that over now or he would have been gone a loooong time ago and his reps given to guys who will be here. JMO.

I am not predicting Uran will make the team or anything. But you have to wonder why he is here. Its not because we need a body at WR. He makes plays.

I like Urban too, and I've been rooting for him. I actually started believing he might have a chance after Austin had a little problem with drops earlier in the preseason, but I think Austin pretty well solidified his position as the 6th WR Thursday night.

 

[Rack]

Actually I think there's a chance Stanback would clears waivers. A converted QB that was injured most of the preseason?

Yeah, there's a chance.


I don't want to take that chance though.

 

[Stautner]

Actually I think there's a chance Stanback would clears waivers. A converted QB that was injured most of the preseason?

Yeah, there's a chance.


I don't want to take that chance though.

I don't think there is a chance in hell. There are receiver hungry teams out there that would jump at the chance to take a flyer on his kind of physical talent.

 

[Rack]

I don't think there is a chance in hell. There are receiver hungry teams out there that would jump at the chance to take a flyer on his kind of physical talent.

You're deluded, IMO.

 

[Stautner]

You're deluded, IMO.

Hey, I've been deluded before, I just don't think so in this case.

 

[Rack]

Hey, I've been deluded before, I just don't think so in this case.

Well if you want to get technical, there is a "Chance" Peyton Manning could get cut and not claimed. ANYTHING (theoretically) is possible.


Stanback is learning a new position, and was injured most of training camp. Teams aren't jumping for joy over those kinds of players. And a team in dire need of a WR certainly would NOT pursue Stanback cuz he doesn't even know how to play WR (yet). A team with need at WR would more likely be pursing someone that has more exp playing the position. It's more likely that a team already solid at WR would pick up Stanback (knowing he has potential but wouldn't have to force him to play too soon).

 

[StanleySpadowski]

Hey, I've been deluded before, I just don't think so in this case.

You aren't deluded here.

The is absolutely no way that Stanback clears waivers. He went from a day one pick to an early day two only because teams were unsure if he could come back from injury. He's proven that he could.

 

[theogt]

I don't think there's any way of knowing exactly what his chances of making it to the PS are. I don't think Stephen Jones would even know. But I think they're probably low enough not to take the risk.

 

[Stautner]

Well if you want to get technical, there is a "Chance" Peyton Manning could get cut and not claimed. ANYTHING (theoretically) is possible.


Stanback is learning a new position, and was injured most of training camp. Teams aren't jumping for joy over those kinds of players. And a team in dire need of a WR certainly would NOT pursue Stanback cuz he doesn't even know how to play WR (yet). A team with need at WR would more likely be pursing someone that has more exp playing the position. It's more likely that a team already solid at WR would pick up Stanback (knowing he has potential but wouldn't have to force him to play too soon).

You put up the possibility of cutting Peyton Manning as an analogy to the Stanback situation and you call me delusional?


I understand what you are saying about Stanback, and I don't disagree that there are issues that would scare away most teams. All I'm saying is that everyone considers him to be a great athlete with great upside, and I believe someone would pick him up for that reason.


If somehow you find that line of thinking to be on the same level as the Colts cutting Peyton Manning then you truly are delusional.

 

[joseephuss]

Well if you want to get technical, there is a "Chance" Peyton Manning could get cut and not claimed. ANYTHING (theoretically) is possible.


Stanback is learning a new position, and was injured most of training camp. Teams aren't jumping for joy over those kinds of players. And a team in dire need of a WR certainly would NOT pursue Stanback cuz he doesn't even know how to play WR (yet). A team with need at WR would more likely be pursing someone that has more exp playing the position. It's more likely that a team already solid at WR would pick up Stanback (knowing he has potential but wouldn't have to force him to play too soon).

No way man. The Colts would have to suck up major cap space if they released Manning and any team claiming him would have to be able to absorb a huge contract so late in the game. It ain't happening. Oh, you weren't serious. I can't tell because I didn't see one of these or one of these . I am clueless without them.

 

[Rack]

The manning example was extreme, but just to prove a point that "Anything's possible".


Hey, we have no way of leaving our solar system, but that doesn't mean it's impossible.


Anyway, I think some of us are just a little homerfied about Stanback. I love his potential just as much as the next guy, and I do NOT want to cut him, but to say there is "no chance" he pass through waivers unclaimed is a bit much.

 

[Stautner]

The manning example was extreme, but just to prove a point that "Anything's possible".


Hey, we have no way of leaving our solar system, but that doesn't mean it's impossible.


Anyway, I think some of us are just a little homerfied about Stanback. I love his potential just as much as the next guy, and I do NOT want to cut him, but to say there is "no chance" he pass through waivers unclaimed is a bit much.

It's a goofy point.

What comparison are you going to use next? Are you going to say the chance of us releasing Lousaka Polite is analogous to the Chargers releasing Ladanian Tomlinson?