Mayock: (Bridgewater is) "Ready for the nfl. A top 10 pick"

[Fla Cowpoke]

OK, just the messenger in regard to the ESPN report, but I am not expecting much out of Bridgewater.

 

[JohnnyHopkins]

I have watched a pretty fair amount of Bridgewater's games and that dude just flat gets it done on the football field. I have never seen pressure phase him in the slightest. Sitting behind Romo for a few years would result in a decade long solution at QB. It would be extremely foolish to pass up on that.

 

[Fla Cowpoke]

That 20 on the Wonderlic is another red flag on Bridgewater. Below average for QB.

 

[CashMan]

was andrew luck too good to be true? some qb's just have it.

So Mayock changes his tune, I guess I might be right?


NFLNetwork's Mike Mayock said, "I would not take [Louisville QB Teddy Bridgewater] in the first round of the draft."

"I've never seen a top-level quarterback in the last 10 years have a bad pro day, until Teddy Bridgewater," said Mayock. "He had no accuracy, the ball came out funny, the arm strength wasn't there, and it made me question everything I saw on tape because this was live." Bridgewater looks poised to have a Geno Smith-like slide down the draft.

 

[DBOY3141]

So Mayock changes his tune, I guess I might be right?


NFLNetwork's Mike Mayock said, "I would not take [Louisville QB Teddy Bridgewater] in the first round of the draft."

"I've never seen a top-level quarterback in the last 10 years have a bad pro day, until Teddy Bridgewater," said Mayock. "He had no accuracy, the ball came out funny, the arm strength wasn't there, and it made me question everything I saw on tape because this was live." Bridgewater looks poised to have a Geno Smith-like slide down the draft.

I think Mayock along with Kiper are hearing rumblings from scouts and friends within inner circles. Just studying tape is not going to change your opinion from a top 10 pick to the 2nd round. A pro day is really not going to change anything.

 

[btcutter]

You heard of Luck for 2-3yrs. I can't really say, I've heard of him for that long.

I think Bridgewater has been on the radar for 2 years. They are picking him apart a month from the draft. Prior to that he was the sure first QB and maybe 1st overall.

Jones won't consider him or other QB in the 1st unless it's Johnny Football. And it's because he has no football foresight like a good GM should.

 

[CashMan]

I think Mayock along with Kiper are hearing rumblings from scouts and friends within inner circles. Just studying tape is not going to change your opinion from a top 10 pick to the 2nd round. A pro day is really not going to change anything.

I think of there is a pattern, that is something to pay attention to. If he is saying in the past 10yrs no top QB has had a bad workout, and this one did, that is something to pay attention to. On the other hand, my question would be, what top QB had that bad workout before that 10yrs?

 

[xwalker]

I think Mayock along with Kiper are hearing rumblings from scouts and friends within inner circles. Just studying tape is not going to change your opinion from a top 10 pick to the 2nd round. A pro day is really not going to change anything.

Kiper's process is as follows:

Study a the draft a little and put out some rankings.

Get feedback from people he knows on NFL teams.
Update his rankings based on the feedback.

Get feedback from people he knows on NFL teams.
Update his rankings based on the feedback.

Get feedback from people he knows on NFL teams.
Update his rankings based on the feedback.

Get feedback from people he knows on NFL teams.
Update his rankings based on the feedback.

 

[Risen Star]

Kiper's process is as follows:

Study a the draft a little and put out some rankings.

Get feedback from people he knows on NFL teams.
Update his rankings based on the feedback.

Get feedback from people he knows on NFL teams.
Update his rankings based on the feedback.

Get feedback from people he knows on NFL teams.
Update his rankings based on the feedback.

Get feedback from people he knows on NFL teams.
Update his rankings based on the feedback.

You don't even know what you're talking about.

 

[xwalker]

You don't even know what you're talking about.

?

 

[Risen Star]

?

He doesn't "study the draft a little". He lives it year round.

You may not like him. You may even think you know better, but nobody can ever accuse him of being lazy and not doing the work.

Does he have connections within the league feeding him information? What draft analyst of his stature wouldn't? What do you think his lisping counterpart is doing on NFLN as their wannabe Kiper? The very same thing.

Yeah, Mel Kiper "studies the draft a little". Like Jerry Jones is a bit of a micromanager and Andy Reid has a slight eating problem.

 

[xwalker]

He doesn't "study the draft a little". He lives it year round.

You may not like him. You may even think you know better, but nobody can ever accuse him of being lazy and not doing the work.

Does he have connections within the league feeding him information? What draft analyst of his stature wouldn't? What do you think his lisping counterpart is doing on NFLN as their wannabe Kiper? The very same thing.

Yeah, Mel Kiper "studies the draft a little". Like Jerry Jones is a bit of a micromanager and Andy Reid has a slight eating problem.

You missed the point. He obviously knows the prospects because he can answer a question about any player.

It his rankings that are come from the feedback that he gets. If he only ranked based on his own film evaluation his rankings wouldn't vary so much from the beginning to the final.

 

[CashMan]

I have watched a pretty fair amount of Bridgewater's games and that dude just flat gets it done on the football field. I have never seen pressure phase him in the slightest. Sitting behind Romo for a few years would result in a decade long solution at QB. It would be extremely foolish to pass up on that.

Can the same be said, about Teebow in college?

 

[CashMan]

You missed the point. He obviously knows the prospects because he can answer a question about any player.

It his rankings that are come from the feedback that he gets. If he only ranked based on his own film evaluation his rankings wouldn't vary so much from the beginning to the final.

I think you have to throw in workouts, and assessments from teams.

 

[Gaede]

Can the same be said, about Teebow in college?

No, the two situations aren't remotely similar.

 

[CashMan]

No, the two situations aren't remotely similar.

You are taking it out of context, look at the quote I quoted.

 

[65fastback2plus2]

So Mayock changes his tune, I guess I might be right?


NFLNetwork's Mike Mayock said, "I would not take [Louisville QB Teddy Bridgewater] in the first round of the draft."

"I've never seen a top-level quarterback in the last 10 years have a bad pro day, until Teddy Bridgewater," said Mayock. "He had no accuracy, the ball came out funny, the arm strength wasn't there, and it made me question everything I saw on tape because this was live." Bridgewater looks poised to have a Geno Smith-like slide down the draft.

he is a dummy then. we all know teddy throws with gloves and threw without gloves at his pro day

 

[Risen Star]

You missed the point. He obviously knows the prospects because he can answer a question about any player.

It his rankings that are come from the feedback that he gets. If he only ranked based on his own film evaluation his rankings wouldn't vary so much from the beginning to the final.

If his rankings didn't change much there wouldn't be as much interest week to week through the months of the draft. I agree with that.

 

[Risen Star]

I have watched a pretty fair amount of Bridgewater's games and that dude just flat gets it done on the football field. I have never seen pressure phase him in the slightest. Sitting behind Romo for a few years would result in a decade long solution at QB. It would be extremely foolish to pass up on that.

I agree. If he slides he'll end up being another Drew Brees. A player who they over evaluated in the spring. They forgot he was just a great football player.

 

[xwalker]

If his rankings didn't change much there wouldn't be as much interest week to week through the months of the draft. I agree with that.

I think he wants his ranking to be basically inline with the norm. People tend to shoot down the analysts that have rankings that are out of whack with everybody else.

Kiper does have impressive recall. They can throw out questions about some 7th rounder or UDFA type and he can usually recite the basics about the player. I'm assuming that they didn't prompt him with the question beforehand.

My favorite draft analyst was Wes Bunting. He disappeared last year and the word is that he got a job with and NFL team. His ranking would come out different than others but he seemed to really spend a lot of time reviewing all of the prospects.