Mazi and Odighizuwa had a quality outing

[Proof]

You guys know that last season he was playing with a shoulder injury that after surgery kept him out of the season program until the opening of summer camp. The kid is 23 years old let’s let him develop. I saw some YouTube yahoo saying the Cowboys will cut him in the offseason. Folks just have no patience anymore.

good info. i didn’t know that

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

I kept telling all me friends and suspect-friends that if we give those two a chance, they would someday have a "good outing."
With any luck, they will have "good outings" every 15 games or so.
I can't wait for their next good outing!

(Odd, isn't it chaps, that we are reduced to cheering on scrubs that Yoda hires on his gut feeling that they will improve.)

 

[CowboyStar88]

I guess.

hes a 1st round pick though.

his pff and pro football ref grades stink.

and his GTD money next season prevents Dallas from cutting him.

You really believe this Dallas team would ever cut a first round pick after 2 years? Where/when have they ever done this or even given you the hint that they would?

Dallas isn’t cutting Mazi, and they were never going to cut him after 2 seasons with one being his rookie year. Guaranteed money has absolutely ZERO to do with it.

come on, man.

 

[CowboyStar88]

You guys know that last season he was playing with a shoulder injury that after surgery kept him out of the season program until the opening of summer camp. The kid is 23 years old let’s let him develop. I saw some YouTube yahoo saying the Cowboys will cut him in the offseason. Folks just have no patience anymore.

When have they ever cut a first round pick after their 2’d season? Especially one where they saw improvement? That dude on YouTube is an idiot.

 

[baltcowboy]

good info. i didn’t know that

Yeah, it one of the biggest concerns in the offseason that Mazi and Schoonmaker missed the offseason programs because they recovered from surgeries. Mazi was not cleared until a few weeks before camp so he was unable to lift any weight. He was injured midseason last year.

 

[baltcowboy]

When have they ever cut a first round pick after their 2’d season? Especially one where they saw improvement? That dude on YouTube is an idiot.

Some guys want everyone cut. YouTube is just a bunch of Cowboys zone members with video platforms. Listen I believe the Cowboys are bad but there is no way I will cheer for them to lose out for draft position. Especially with such an average draft with no big time quarterback prospect. I have enjoyed watching Mazi, Schoonmaker, Ford, Bass, Hoffman, Turpin show something the last few weeks. Now we get our top corners back together. Nothing wrong with that.

 

[BoyzBlaster]

Yes it does literally it's called development it's called giving a guy a chance to at least find a role in a niche in this league there are plenty of players like him starting on other teams in a rotation sure he's not a elite starter he's not even a full time starter they rotate out into your defensive tackles all the time especially nose tackles

A first rounder is a bust if he's searching for a niche role. Everyone understands players develop over time. But the simple fact is every week we all watch defensive tackles on other teams contribute WAY more than he has in years 1 and 2.

 

[DuncanIso]

You really believe this Dallas team would ever cut a first round pick after 2 years? Where/when have they ever done this or even given you the hint that they would?

Dallas isn’t cutting Mazi, and they were never going to cut him after 2 seasons with one being his rookie year. Guaranteed money has absolutely ZERO to do with it.

come on, man.

I do.

hes been terrible.

but hes lucky he has a 1st round contract.

POST-6/1 RELEASE​

2025 Dead Cap: $6,180,558
2026 Dead Cap: $1,663,581
2025 Savings: $-2,560,186



but his luck runs out after next season…

POST-6/1 RELEASE​

2026 Dead Cap: $4,223,767
2027 Dead Cap: $0
2026 Savings: $0

 

[blueblood70]

A first rounder is a bust if he's searching for a niche role. Everyone understands players develop over time. But the simple fact is every week we all watch defensive tackles on other teams contribute WAY more than he has in years 1 and 2.

No that's not how it works 'cause you get offset it balances out you get a guy like Duran bland in the fourth round you get guys like Kansas City find a starting running back in the seventh round this is absolutely finding players in the draft to fit on your team that's a fan thing but once the draft is over the only way they're a bust is if they're not on your team the next season or before the end of their contract they're not resigned and they're not anywhere in the NFL to be found so you have your opinion I'm telling you you're wrong it's not a fact it's not simple you have to look at drafts as finding players including the undrafted players taken out of college as part of that offseason draft they just slipped out of the draft but some of those guys are better than the 5th 6th or 7th rounders that we took you have to count them that year you're looking to fill your roster with players sometimes you have to flip them like when I look at it this way Ezekiel Elliott wasn't a big deal because we found our quarterback in the fourth round you just flipped those positions we found in that draft a starting franchise quarterback and a great running back..


It's about perspective you have none you wanna pigeonhole Oh my God if he's not like a frontline starter in the first round he's a bust not if he's being picked in the bottom of the first round he's almost in the second round by that time picking in every round in the bottom 10 or the bottom 5 of each one of those rounds i'll be in the next round....

Nah go see the 13th overall pick if you were just talking about Smith then look at Jordan Davis for the Philadelphia Eagles been in this League One more year then Smith I haven't seen his numbers he don't look from a stats standpoint and I haven't heard his name very much as a game wrecker and he was taking 13 that to me is ridiculous because you need a guy like Aaron Donald from that spot right I mean you need a guy like some of these top D tackles if you're taking a guy in the top 13 you better be good but I don't hear his name I just looked at his stats it looks like he's a ghost but I'm betting in the games when you really go look it's not the same as a three tech pass rushing hybrid defensive tackle or defensive end that can stop numbers you can't always judge guys by the way fans do so but I'd rather compare those two and even though Jordan Davis came from a better school with more hype he was taking 13th overall that would be a much bigger mistake than 27th overall mozzie Smith who is one year behind so he's still learning just some perspective man you need to stop with the nonsense but you wanna call the bus go ahead but most of us don't see it that way the team don't see it that way so you're gonna be alone on a little island with about like 5% of you that look at it that way..

I'm not saying he's expendable but you also look at the defensive tackle position it's the most rotated position in the NFL some of them have an elite frontline starter but like all over the rest of the roster a team builds outside your top 10 or 15 really good players with role players they're literally rotational guys or guys that can just do their jobs really solid but they don't do anything special the NFL is full of those dude seriously what the hell you been watching?

Trying to tell me that the bill Bates types don't count there are those all over rosters and I just picked them out of my head because he's one of those guys people didn't like Jeff heath but he is one of those guys the rosters are all full around the NFL more players like that than there are elite top ten players because you can't fill a roster with a salary cap full of Pro Bowl players it doesn't work that way and I know you're not gonna wanna hear it but you're allowed your opinion I'm not saying Smith is it underperforming or what's a bad pick I'm just saying that's not how you look at the rounds and the drafts you literally have to judge the draft by the draft itself and how many of those players are on your roster if they can help in any way in my opinion they're not a bust...

But it's a bonus when you do find that elite player anywhere in the draft we got em all over here... Cowboys been pretty good at finding 3rd and 4th rounders that are really good and that'll offset mistakes made in the top rounds if you don't see it that way too bad that's the way I look at it I'm a big picture guy I use common sense....

 

[CowboyStar88]

I do.

hes been terrible.

but hes lucky he has a 1st round contract.

POST-6/1 RELEASE​

2025 Dead Cap: $6,180,558
2026 Dead Cap: $1,663,581
2025 Savings: $-2,560,186



but his luck runs out after next season…

POST-6/1 RELEASE​

2026 Dead Cap: $4,223,767
2027 Dead Cap: $0
2026 Savings: $0

Again you didn’t answer the question you just posted your “feelings”, yet again.

When has Dallas, Jerry, Spaulding and the entire front office ever given up or indicated they’d give up on a first round pick after year 2? When, please give us an example.

Your “feelings” don’t live in reality.

 

[DuncanIso]

Again you didn’t answer the question you just posted your “feelings”, yet again.

When has Dallas, Jerry, Spaulding and the entire front office ever given up or indicated they’d give up on a first round pick after year 2? When, please give us an example.

Your “feelings” don’t live in reality.

I would guess Danny Noonan. Bobby Carpenter.

add Mazi soon….

 

[chasecooley5308]

A first rounder is a bust if he's searching for a niche role. Everyone understands players develop over time. But the simple fact is every week we all watch defensive tackles on other teams contribute WAY more than he has in years 1 and 2.

THIS!

 

[BoyzBlaster]

No that's not how it works 'cause you get offset it balances out you get a guy like Duran bland in the fourth round you get guys like Kansas City find a starting running back in the seventh round this is absolutely finding players in the draft to fit on your team that's a fan thing but once the draft is over the only way they're a bust is if they're not on your team the next season or before the end of their contract they're not resigned and they're not anywhere in the NFL to be found so you have your opinion I'm telling you you're wrong it's not a fact it's not simple you have to look at drafts as finding players including the undrafted players taken out of college as part of that offseason draft they just slipped out of the draft but some of those guys are better than the 5th 6th or 7th rounders that we took you have to count them that year you're looking to fill your roster with players sometimes you have to flip them like when I look at it this way Ezekiel Elliott wasn't a big deal because we found our quarterback in the fourth round you just flipped those positions we found in that draft a starting franchise quarterback and a great running back..


It's about perspective you have none you wanna pigeonhole Oh my God if he's not like a frontline starter in the first round he's a bust not if he's being picked in the bottom of the first round he's almost in the second round by that time picking in every round in the bottom 10 or the bottom 5 of each one of those rounds i'll be in the next round....

Nah go see the 13th overall pick if you were just talking about Smith then look at Jordan Davis for the Philadelphia Eagles been in this League One more year then Smith I haven't seen his numbers he don't look from a stats standpoint and I haven't heard his name very much as a game wrecker and he was taking 13 that to me is ridiculous because you need a guy like Aaron Donald from that spot right I mean you need a guy like some of these top D tackles if you're taking a guy in the top 13 you better be good but I don't hear his name I just looked at his stats it looks like he's a ghost but I'm betting in the games when you really go look it's not the same as a three tech pass rushing hybrid defensive tackle or defensive end that can stop numbers you can't always judge guys by the way fans do so but I'd rather compare those two and even though Jordan Davis came from a better school with more hype he was taking 13th overall that would be a much bigger mistake than 27th overall mozzie Smith who is one year behind so he's still learning just some perspective man you need to stop with the nonsense but you wanna call the bus go ahead but most of us don't see it that way the team don't see it that way so you're gonna be alone on a little island with about like 5% of you that look at it that way..

I'm not saying he's expendable but you also look at the defensive tackle position it's the most rotated position in the NFL some of them have an elite frontline starter but like all over the rest of the roster a team builds outside your top 10 or 15 really good players with role players they're literally rotational guys or guys that can just do their jobs really solid but they don't do anything special the NFL is full of those dude seriously what the hell you been watching?

Trying to tell me that the bill Bates types don't count there are those all over rosters and I just picked them out of my head because he's one of those guys people didn't like Jeff heath but he is one of those guys the rosters are all full around the NFL more players like that than there are elite top ten players because you can't fill a roster with a salary cap full of Pro Bowl players it doesn't work that way and I know you're not gonna wanna hear it but you're allowed your opinion I'm not saying Smith is it underperforming or what's a bad pick I'm just saying that's not how you look at the rounds and the drafts you literally have to judge the draft by the draft itself and how many of those players are on your roster if they can help in any way in my opinion they're not a bust...

But it's a bonus when you do find that elite player anywhere in the draft we got em all over here... Cowboys been pretty good at finding 3rd and 4th rounders that are really good and that'll offset mistakes made in the top rounds if you don't see it that way too bad that's the way I look at it I'm a big picture guy I use common sense....

Brevity my man.