Mazi Smith alignments 2023 vs. 2024

conner01

Well-Known Member
Messages
28,946
Reaction score
26,593
I made a point to watch Mazi this last game, and man, that guy is so slow off the snap. Other guys are engaging with lineman before he even gets out of his stance.
He’s always slow off the snap but he’s starting to improve some. Improvement was a pretty low bar
 

Proof

Well-Known Member
Messages
13,005
Reaction score
14,532
What argument lol? I didn’t make an argument. My point was last time we seen Quinn’s unit they sucked. And his unit in Washington sucks. His best performance came against the Browns and people said Browns sucked when we faced them.
ranching implied quinn sucks, you quoted it and said "not only that" implying you agree, and then referenced the washington defense as if it's compelling evidence. an argument is a position. and that's shaky
 

TheMarathonContinues

Well-Known Member
Messages
83,846
Reaction score
76,592
ranching implied quinn sucks, you quoted it and said "not only that" implying you agree, and then referenced the washington defense as if it's compelling evidence. an argument is a position. and that's shaky
He didn’t say or imply he sucked.

Cowboys defense sucked in GB.

Commanders defenses and their offense is clicking..

Where is the disagreement?
 

Proof

Well-Known Member
Messages
13,005
Reaction score
14,532
He didn’t say or imply he sucked.

Cowboys defense sucked in GB.

Commanders defenses and their offense is clicking..

Where is the disagreement?
yes he did. you're being dense. all good. quinn is a good defensive coordinator.
 

TheMarathonContinues

Well-Known Member
Messages
83,846
Reaction score
76,592
yes he did. you're being dense. all good. quinn is a good defensive coordinator.
Point me to where he said it. It may be my mistake but I went back and even read his post. Now if he said something 4 posts ago I missed it. But in thst particular post he did not say Quinn sucks.


Are you a Quinn fan? Maybe you’re biased? I for sure am not a Zim fan but I’m not a fan of sucking against the run, undersized linebackers or getting 50 points scored on us either.
 

Ranching

Well-Known Member
Messages
46,307
Reaction score
111,767
CowboysZone LOYAL Fan
The GB game plan was so bad. It was like Quinn said. “Let’s disregard everything we do well, and do a bunch of stuff we’ve never done before in the most important game of the season”.

Idk what the hell he was thinking.
He was working on his resumes! Lol
 

blueblood70

Well-Known Member
Messages
42,580
Reaction score
28,927
Are you just trying to make an argument out of thin air?
not out of thin air,

i'm asking you what you meant, when you post something and it starts spiraling with opinions, they are as usual are trying to assume what you meant just put some up stats you didn't even comment.
 

blueblood70

Well-Known Member
Messages
42,580
Reaction score
28,927
Yeah I think you did miss the point on this one. The OP is basically saying that Mazi was misused last season and is getting more stability staying at 1T this year which is allowing him to get better.
I'm not missing any point he should actually comment with the stat line or the stat count and say why he posted it I don't need sit i can interpret it the way i want to
 

Proof

Well-Known Member
Messages
13,005
Reaction score
14,532
Point me to where he said it. It may be my mistake but I went back and even read his post. Now if he said something 4 posts ago I missed it. But in thst particular post he did not say Quinn sucks.


Are you a Quinn fan? Maybe you’re biased? I for sure am not a Zim fan but I’m not a fan of sucking against the run, undersized linebackers or getting 50 points scored on us either.
it's all good. but yes, huge quinn fan. that doesn't make me any more biased than remembering him for one game. we've already had the undersized linebackers conversation, so no real reason to rehash that, but it's an overused talking point imo. i also didn't like getting embarassed by gb in the playoffs, i am however used to it and don't let it outweigh the good he did while here.
 

blueblood70

Well-Known Member
Messages
42,580
Reaction score
28,927
it's all good. but yes, huge quinn fan. that doesn't make me any more biased than remembering him for one game. we've already had the undersized linebackers conversation, so no real reason to rehash that, but it's an overused talking point imo. i also didn't like getting embarassed by gb in the playoffs, i am however used to it and don't let it outweigh the good he did while here.
Keep it up dude it's not one game the man is known for blowing big leaves and big games you don't remember the watermelon kick that we won against him must not have had his team prepared they should have been expecting that do you not remember the Super bowl absolute meltdown in the second-half do you not remember the Green Bay and Jaguar meltdowns that this offense gave them a 14 and 17 point lead in the fourth quarter on the road and he found a way to blow those games you don't remember last year just about every big game against an opponent that you can't bully beat Dan Quinn's defenses to death literally the defense in most of those games last year not one game almost all of them including the Seattle win why was the defense when Prescott did everything he can to not punk the ball and have to score on every drive that's Dan Quinn against a good opponent those days he's getting out coached period end of story and we're not judging him on one game we're judging him on his whole career this is part of his MO baby MO ie it has proven out this is how mot of his teams end up and Washington habst faced any team that could give his D or his TEAM a challenge,,hes known for beating up on bad

teams..LOSING to the best ones... He's playing checkers when the other teams playing chess isn't that the old saying comes around in here for this Dallas Cowboys team well you know what Dan Quinn was part of a lot of those losses the last three seasons...
 

TheMarathonContinues

Well-Known Member
Messages
83,846
Reaction score
76,592
it's all good. but yes, huge quinn fan. that doesn't make me any more biased than remembering him for one game. we've already had the undersized linebackers conversation, so no real reason to rehash that, but it's an overused talking point imo. i also didn't like getting embarassed by gb in the playoffs, i am however used to it and don't let it outweigh the good he did while here.
Well like I said I don’t think he sucks. He did some good here but I do wonder how good of a coach he is. He had some talent in Seattle and Dallas….. Washington not so much and a little more in Atlanta. I have questions but not if he sucks. The whole staff deserved to get fired after GB but he got a head coaching gig.
 

Proof

Well-Known Member
Messages
13,005
Reaction score
14,532
Keep it up dude it's not one game the man is known for blowing big leaves and big games you don't remember the watermelon kick that we won against him must not have had his team prepared they should have been expecting that do you not remember the Super bowl absolute meltdown in the second-half do you not remember the Green Bay and Jaguar meltdowns that this offense gave them a 14 and 17 point lead in the fourth quarter on the road and he found a way to blow those games you don't remember last year just about every big game against an opponent that you can't bully beat Dan Quinn's defenses to death literally the defense in most of those games last year not one game almost all of them including the Seattle win why was the defense when Prescott did everything he can to not punk the ball and have to score on every drive that's Dan Quinn against a good opponent those days he's getting out coached period end of story and we're not judging him on one game we're judging him on his whole career this is part of his MO baby MO ie it has proven out this is how mot of his teams end up and Washington habst faced any team that could give his D or his TEAM a challenge,,hes known for beating up on bad

teams..LOSING to the best ones... He's playing checkers when the other teams playing chess isn't that the old saying comes around in here for this Dallas Cowboys team well you know what Dan Quinn was part of a lot of those losses the last three seasons...
the conversation we were having was focused on greenbay. that's one game. yes, he has his warts in addition. MY opinion though is that he's a good dc and one i enjoyed having.
 

blueblood70

Well-Known Member
Messages
42,580
Reaction score
28,927
the conversation we were having was focused on greenbay. that's one game. yes, he has his warts in addition. MY opinion though is that he's a good dc and one i enjoyed having.
No the conversation is however it goes, I read what I want and I respond in kind thats MY FOCUS<,MY ADD..

I could put whatever I want in this thready we're talking about Dan Quinn and his misuse of Mazi Smith that's where it started had him lose weight had lots of players out of position not playing strong against the run and then I decided to make sure it wasn't one game because your memories seem to have some gaps in them so I wanted to remind you this goes all the way back to Atlanta and all the way forward and Washington's going to get that feeling as well ,eventually a leopard doesn't change his spots, not he's also a Washington head coach I hate Washington ,I hate my rivals,

I'm not giving Dan Quinn any flowers he's now an absolute enemy and he will be an enemy... I'm not exchanging jerseys with the guy so you might wanna check that somewhere else it's not working for me... And by the way everything I said was 100% true if you wanna add in the Green Bay game and Dayton Quinn's name into this conversation that started with just one player then i'm gonna add mine i don't see where the problem is..
 

Proof

Well-Known Member
Messages
13,005
Reaction score
14,532
No the conversation is however it goes, I read what I want and I respond in kind thats MY FOCUS<,MY ADD..

I could put whatever I want in this thready we're talking about Dan Quinn and his misuse of Mazi Smith that's where it started had him lose weight had lots of players out of position not playing strong against the run and then I decided to make sure it wasn't one game because your memories seem to have some gaps in them so I wanted to remind you this goes all the way back to Atlanta and all the way forward and Washington's going to get that feeling as well ,eventually a leopard doesn't change his spots, not he's also a Washington head coach I hate Washington ,I hate my rivals,

I'm not giving Dan Quinn any flowers he's now an absolute enemy and he will be an enemy... I'm not exchanging jerseys with the guy so you might wanna check that somewhere else it's not working for me... And by the way everything I said was 100% true if you wanna add in the Green Bay game and Dayton Quinn's name into this conversation that started with just one player then i'm gonna add mine i don't see where the problem is..
i didn't say you couldn't post whatever you want, you attempted to correct me on it being one game or not, THE DISCUSSION AT THE TIME WAS CENTERED ON ONE GAME. that's the point you adhd riddled buffoon
 

Fla Cowpoke

Well-Known Member
Messages
12,025
Reaction score
12,046
You know you hire defensive coordinator and a whole staff of defensive coaches that take care of this so blaming Mike McCarthy is ridiculous in this case...

You allow your coaches to do the right thing teach them put them where they need to and devise the game plans and sort out the snap counts...

Yes on the offensive side and overall team stuff yes but this is like the principle of a school they allow the teachers to teach and they rarely ever **** in unless there's a need to and in this case the students are in the classes and they get taught by the teachers which would be the defensive coordinator the defensive line coach al Harris and the whole defensive staff that's who you need to blame if you think Mazi is being used wrong and last year...

And Speaking of last year the blame needs to go to the person that was in charge OF Defense, that would be Dan Quinn failed us in every big game last year he's responsible for just about every loss last year responsible for the ridiculous narrative that we can't win on the road when he blew leads in Jacksonville and against GB ,that's all Dan Quinn put the blame where it needs to be I'll do it how about I put in bigger letters...


Dan Quinn is 80% responsible for all our losses last year in the biggest gains in the biggest moments , And no I'm not looking over at Washington and think we made a mistake. He folds up and cant scheme big games agant top teams, we saw it in ATL watermelon game and SB, all the games here watch closer..DQ was fraud..
The head coach is responsible for people he hires. Now, not completely clear if he hired Quinn or if that was done by Jerruh. I agree Quinn failed in the big games and has the most game to game responsibility.
 

blueblood70

Well-Known Member
Messages
42,580
Reaction score
28,927
The head coach is responsible for people he hires. Now, not completely clear if he hired Quinn or if that was done by Jerruh. I agree Quinn failed in the big games and has the most game to game responsibility.
And most of the time the head coach doesn't have the final say that would be the GM and the ownership that actually hire most of the coordinators so let's let's be clear.. But don't get it twisted Jerry's not the only one that hires the coordinators for his head coaches I found out from some eagles fans absolutely Howie Roseman does all the hiring of all the coaches including the assistance I'm sure he has input from his head coach but you got this backwards I mean owners hire their own CEOs and then the CEOs hire their employees but coaches head coaches and coordinators are more like CEOs of a business and usually the GM and the owner but mostly the GM but in this case is both make styles final hires they're the ones who approves and disapproves and they're typically have the final say and not always in agreement with the head coach...

And by the way if you think that's a bad thing from what I hear Mike Nolan was 100% Mike McCarthy hire, he failed big jerry ate that deal, so why wouldn't jerry make the final on Quinn which at times is the best way, but he was better than mike nolan..

So, this is a group effort it's not just the owner not just the GM and not just the head coach there's a there's a lot of meetings that happen in order to do this but most GM of most teams do all the hiring of the coordinators.

That is why I have to laugh sometimes I realize Howie Roseman has some great standing in here is one of the greatest gems ever lived just because he makes a bunch of moves doesn't make it great moves they failed last year they folded they blame the coordinators that they changed out from the Super bowl year so they change them out again and does it look that improved so that would be on Howie Roseman right and a little bit on the head coach...

but did you notice...

The Jets fired their head coach but didn't fire the coordinators, what does that tell you it tells you the gyms and the owners are making these decisions for the most part but there are times where there is input and that the coach decides...
 

blueblood70

Well-Known Member
Messages
42,580
Reaction score
28,927
i didn't say you couldn't post whatever you want, you attempted to correct me on it being one game or not, THE DISCUSSION AT THE TIME WAS CENTERED ON ONE GAME. that's the point you adhd riddled buffoon
hey that's good enough for me though that Green Bay game with a debacle not only was it a bad decision to change the defense the fact is once they knew it was a bad decision Quinn just let it fly didn't make any adjustments in the game it was horrible from the beginning to the end we lost the game because the defense sucked and somehow Jerry gave him the it's not about Washington overlooked the fact that Quinn was mostly responsible for that debacle... So yes I'm one game alone I would've fired his *** and I would not have fired his ***
 
Top