MB3: A Top 5 back in the league

[Rackat]

Salisbury, Golic and Green talking about SB contenders:

Barber needs 25-30 touches a game. He's a beast.
Why they are not utilizing him is crazy.
Feed him the ball.
He looks players up and wears them out with his runs.
Dallas can go into GB and when in the cold, but only if they run the Barbarian.
Dallas is best team in NFC and should, should, be going to the SB.

Also:
GB - only obstacle in Cowboys way
NYFG - not contenders
Seattle - could pose problems, but not really contenders
Tampa - Definately contenders, don't let them get on a roll in the PO's
NO - not contenders
Washington - possible, but doubtful

 

[CrazyCowboy]

I like what I am reading.

I cannot wait to return to the big dance zoners

 

[Eddie]

Anything can happen in the playoffs. The SB is not a lock.

If we don't rebound from Philly with two knock-out wins, I'd start to worry.

 

[PullMyFinger]

Sheesh the Skins.

Theyre like that fly you smack with the flyswatter, still crawling around, smack it again, legs still wiggle. You have to smash his arse to kill him.

 

[burmafrd]

Untill wade lays the law down, redball will not run the ball even 20 times a game.

 

[TheCount]

Give Barber The Ball!!

I'm so tired of this crap, it's not funny anymore. If you want Barber to run in the 2nd half fine (I don't like it, but fine) at least give him the touches then, no less than 15. This is ridiculous.

We go through the whole season without bothering to establish the run, the only time either one of our RB's have good games is when they manage to break big runs on the few carries they get.

We didn't consider that we might need to run the ball at some point in the playoffs? Or we'd face a team like the Eagles with a good secondary? Or that Romo would have an off day at some points?

 

[Mavs Man]

Untill wade lays the law down, redball will not run the ball even 20 times a game.

I'm guessing you only mean the last two games...

Dallas Rushing attempts per game:
Giants - 30
Dolphins - 36
Chicago - 25
Rams - 33
Bills - 22 (3.5 ypa)
Patriots - 15 (ypa 6.5)
Vikings - 29
Eagles - 32
Giants - 24
Commanders - 25
Jets - 34
Packers - 28
Lions - 16 (5.8 ypa)
Eagles - 15 (3.5 ypa)

It's interesting to see that games under 20 carries were either a loss or a close win. The Bills game we only carried it 22 times, which was the fourth lowest total.

I included the ypa for those four games. We had success running the ball against the Patriots and Lions, but it's hard to run it when you're down by several touchdowns early on.

 

[TheCount]

I'm guessing you only mean the last two games...

Dallas Rushing attempts per game:
Giants - 30
Dolphins - 36
Chicago - 25
Rams - 33
Bills - 22 (3.5 ypa)
Patriots - 15 (ypa 6.5)
Vikings - 29
Eagles - 32
Giants - 24
Commanders - 25
Jets - 34
Packers - 28
Lions - 16 (5.8 ypa)
Eagles - 15 (3.5 ypa)

It's interesting to see that games under 20 carries were either a loss or a close win. The Bills game we only carried it 22 times, which was the fourth lowest total.

I included the ypa for those four games. We had success running the ball against the Patriots and Lions, but it's hard to run it when you're down by several touchdowns early on.

That's because Garrett only likes to run the ball when we have a lead, if we're behind, even by a small amount, he'll throw and throw and throw.

 

[AmericasTeam31]

I'm guessing you only mean the last two games...

Dallas Rushing attempts per game:
Giants - 30
Dolphins - 36
Chicago - 25
Rams - 33
Bills - 22 (3.5 ypa)
Patriots - 15 (ypa 6.5)
Vikings - 29
Eagles - 32
Giants - 24
Commanders - 25
Jets - 34
Packers - 28
Lions - 16 (5.8 ypa)
Eagles - 15 (3.5 ypa)

It's interesting to see that games under 20 carries were either a loss or a close win. The Bills game we only carried it 22 times, which was the fourth lowest total.

I included the ypa for those four games. We had success running the ball against the Patriots and Lions, but it's hard to run it when you're down by several touchdowns early on.

Don't you think that Julius' carries should be counted as sacks? As most of them seem end with him going down behind the line of scrimmage? :laugh2:

 

[Doomsdayblitz]

Thank you, thank you, thank you!!!! I've been screaming about this for some time. Stats don't lie. When you look at the APR, (Average Per Rush), over the past two seasons, two things stand out:

1. Julius Jones just isn't the same RB he was his first two seasons in the league. When he first came to the team, he was gashing teams for huge gains, and several games of over or close to 200 yds. per game. When you look at him now, even with the monstrous line he has opening huge holes, he is very tentative.
2. Marion Barber is the real deal! He is one of the top ten, if not five backs in the league. DBs cringe every time they see him break through the line. They know it's going to be a WWF cage match every time they try to tackle him. Emmitt Smith is my favorite player of all-time, but even he didn't attack the opponent with such a psychotic rage.

That is why I can't understand it when guys on this site cry for a "franchise back". Hello??!! We already have one. All we need to do is draft a RB around the 4th-5th rd. Someone like Forsett or Forte to take the place of Jones when the team lets him go to FA.

Then, I am hoping that the "Barbarian" gets at least 18-20 carries/game, with Thompson or a rookie coming in for 5-6 runs to give Barber a blow. Now, that is a recipe for success.

 

[burmafrd]

To start with the line is NOT opening monstrous holes. Have not all season long. Bottom line is that we are at best average as regards run blocking. ALL of the big runs and big series have come in the second half after the D line is worn down. Look at the stats for the first half and we are POOR at running the ball. The 90's O line opened big holes ALL GAME LONG.

 

[CowboyManDan]

MB3 is the real deal, however I don't believe he can handle 25+ carries for 16+ games.

Overall I have been wanting us to be much more balanced and run the ball more than we have.

 

[Kolemmitt]

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That is why I can't understand it when guys on this site cry for a "franchise back". Hello??!! We already have one. All we need to do is draft a RB around the 4th-5th rd. Someone like Forsett or Forte to take the place of Jones when the team lets him go to FA.

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I like Savage from OSU in the 3rd. And FB Schmitt in the 4th/5th. I love to imagine the amount of hurt we would put on other teams if they would have to deal with our huge O-line and then Schmitt lead blocking for the Barbarian 15-20 a game. Then give Savage five to ten touches a game.

 

[Kolemmitt]

To start with the line is NOT opening monstrous holes. Have not all season long. Bottom line is that we are at best average as regards run blocking. ALL of the big runs and big series have come in the second half after the D line is worn down. Look at the stats for the first half and we are POOR at running the ball. The 90's O line opened big holes ALL GAME LONG.

I've coached a little O-line and I think they gain a bit of either a run-first or pass-first mentallity when a teams favors one or the other. Also, chances are our offense is spending 70-80% of our "team" time practicing pass blocking. I think it may play a bit of a role in our average run blocking.

 

[DallasKnight]

Don't you think that Julius' carries should be counted as sacks? As most of them seem end with him going down behind the line of scrimmage? :laugh2:

And for some reason, Julius trips over those white lines, and even the imaginary yellow ones. They reach up and grab his ankles.


Give MBIII the ball more.

 

[dalboy]

I'm guessing you only mean the last two games...

Dallas Rushing attempts per game:
Giants - 30
Dolphins - 36
Chicago - 25
Rams - 33
Bills - 22 (3.5 ypa)
Patriots - 15 (ypa 6.5)
Vikings - 29
Eagles - 32
Giants - 24
Commanders - 25
Jets - 34
Packers - 28
Lions - 16 (5.8 ypa)
Eagles - 15 (3.5 ypa)

It's interesting to see that games under 20 carries were either a loss or a close win. The Bills game we only carried it 22 times, which was the fourth lowest total.

I included the ypa for those four games. We had success running the ball against the Patriots and Lions, but it's hard to run it when you're down by several touchdowns early on.

plus the bills were not far away from 20

 

[panchucko]

I like what I am reading.

I cannot wait to return to the big dance zoners

You got that right, the party is alredy in the planning stage.
wouldn't want e to wait until the last minute, then not be able to get a hall or enought people to get into the squares.

 

[percyhoward]

Salisbury, Golic and Green talking about SB contenders:

Barber needs 25-30 touches a game.

Barber averages less than 16 touches per game, btw.

Julius Jones had 1,084 yards last year. If you're thinking he's really fallen off in 2007, he hasn't. He just hasn't gotten the carries he's used to getting. At Julius' current pace of 3.8 ypc, he'd finish the season with 1,014 yards, IF he had as many carries as last year.

Barber, with his current pace of 12.6 carries per game (or about 5 fewer carries than JJ got last year) would finish the season short of 1,000 yards. But, at his current per-carry pace, and with as many carries as Julius had last year, Barber would finish the season with 1,308 yards.

If you're thinking Barber's ypc might go down with more carries, remember that this year he's having his season high in carries AND ypc.

 

[Hoofbite]

That's because Garrett only likes to run the ball when we have a lead, if we're behind, even by a small amount, he'll throw and throw and throw.

Bingo. Dallas was NEVER out of the Detroit game or the Philly game and he threw it constantly. I firmly believe dallas wins the Philly game if he would have given the ball to Barber on any of those plays inside the 10 yard line. But he didn't. He went shotgun and passed and passed and passed.

Ended up with FG after FG.

 

[Rampage]

barber needs atleast 20 carries a game from now till the season is over.