Mcfadden RB analysis vs Murray

[Aliencowboy]

For a guy that was dominant in college and blew up the combine, he has obviously not met expectations in the NFL. He ran a 4.33 at the combine. Has stature 6'1 210. Analysis:

Scores are for Mcfadden:

Vision: 5/10 -average. On par with Murray. Push to pick one, I'd go with Murray. Really, both are below average to average.

Wiggle/elusiveness: 4/10 -Mcfadden is a one cut. Fast through the line but won't make people miss much. Hopes to blow by them. Murray was not extraordinary here either but Mcfadden is worse. Advantage Murray.

Speed: 9/10 Neither is as fast as they used to be. Murray ran 4.41 and Mcfadden a mind-blowing 4.33. Injuries and age are probably to blame. For 4.33, Mcfadden does get angled/chased down quite often but he gets the Adv. here.

Burst: 7/10: Both are up right runners but I think Mcfadden has more burst or short area quickness through the line.

Pass catching: 10/10 Both do this well. Mcfadden has natural + hands and gets the slight Adv.

Power: 7/10 Though Mcfadden is a nice NFL sized back, Murray is a power proven work horse. Adv. Murray.

Fumble/Reliability: 8/10 in the last two seasons Mcfadden has lost 2 fumbles and Murray a canoe load. Adv. Mcfadden.

Blitz pick up: 8/10 Mcfadden is good, Murray exceptional.

4/4 - tie. Murray is a proven commodity and got paid. Mcfadden is not but cost 5.85 over 2 years. Could be a surprise with this line and playing with a top 5 QB. I agree with not paying Murray and that GB fumble was a killer. That's what fumblers do.

 

[Corso]

Great. Thank you. I learned a lot. Moving on...

 

[WPBCowboysFan]

How about an AP Murray analysis?

Or will you wait and do that once AP is here?

 

[vaturkey]

Makes sense to me. Time will tell as they say, but it appears to be a push based on your analysis.

 

[Manwiththeplan]

Fumble/Reliability: 8/10 in the last two seasons Mcfadden has lost 2 fumbles and Murray a canoe load. Adv. Mcfadden.

Did you compare total fumbles or fumbles per touch?

 

[xwalker]

For a guy that was dominant in college and blew up the combine, he has obviously not met expectations in the NFL. He ran a 4.33 at the combine. Has stature 6'1 210. Analysis:

Scores are for Mcfadden:

Vision: 5/10 -average. On par with Murray. Push to pick one, I'd go with Murray. Really, both are below average to average.

Wiggle/elusiveness: 4/10 -Mcfadden is a one cut. Fast through the line but won't make people miss much. Hopes to blow by them. Murray was not extraordinary here either but Mcfadden is worse. Advantage Murray.

Speed: 9/10 Neither is as fast as they used to be. Murray ran 4.41 and Mcfadden a mind-blowing 4.33. Injuries and age are probably to blame. For 4.33, Mcfadden does get angled/chased down quite often but he gets the Adv. here.

Burst: 7/10: Both are up right runners but I think Mcfadden has more burst or short area quickness through the line.

Pass catching: 10/10 Both do this well. Mcfadden has natural + hands and gets the slight Adv.

Power: 7/10 Though Mcfadden is a nice NFL sized back, Murray is a power proven work horse. Adv. Murray.

Fumble/Reliability: 8/10 in the last two seasons Mcfadden has lost 2 fumbles and Murray a canoe load. Adv. Mcfadden.

Blitz pick up: 8/10 Mcfadden is good, Murray exceptional.

4/4 - tie. Murray is a proven commodity and got paid. Mcfadden is not but cost 5.85 over 2 years. Could be a surprise with this line and playing with a top 5 QB. I agree with not paying Murray and that GB fumble was a killer. That's what fumblers do.

McFadden is still significantly faster than Murray, IMO.

 

[JoeKing]

One comparison that was left out that the Jones' seemed to really care about... $$$

 

[AzorAhai]

McFadden is a better at blitz pickup and its not close. He's one of the absolute best in the league at it and Murray was no better than average. I'm not sure why Murray is so frequently overrated in this area.

 

[JBS]

Timed speed is bs..Murray doesn't play anywhere close to his time...and running in the open field wasn't covered...Murray 3/10...mcfadden 7/10

 

[Section446]

The measurables really don't matter, to this point in their careers, Murray is the better back.

 

[Howboutdemcowboys31]

For a guy that was dominant in college and blew up the combine, he has obviously not met expectations in the NFL. He ran a 4.33 at the combine. Has stature 6'1 210. Analysis:

Scores are for Mcfadden:

Vision: 5/10 -average. On par with Murray. Push to pick one, I'd go with Murray. Really, both are below average to average.

Wiggle/elusiveness: 4/10 -Mcfadden is a one cut. Fast through the line but won't make people miss much. Hopes to blow by them. Murray was not extraordinary here either but Mcfadden is worse. Advantage Murray.

Speed: 9/10 Neither is as fast as they used to be. Murray ran 4.41 and Mcfadden a mind-blowing 4.33. Injuries and age are probably to blame. For 4.33, Mcfadden does get angled/chased down quite often but he gets the Adv. here.

Burst: 7/10: Both are up right runners but I think Mcfadden has more burst or short area quickness through the line.

Pass catching: 10/10 Both do this well. Mcfadden has natural + hands and gets the slight Adv.

Power: 7/10 Though Mcfadden is a nice NFL sized back, Murray is a power proven work horse. Adv. Murray.

Fumble/Reliability: 8/10 in the last two seasons Mcfadden has lost 2 fumbles and Murray a canoe load. Adv. Mcfadden.

Blitz pick up: 8/10 Mcfadden is good, Murray exceptional.

4/4 - tie. Murray is a proven commodity and got paid. Mcfadden is not but cost 5.85 over 2 years. Could be a surprise with this line and playing with a top 5 QB. I agree with not paying Murray and that GB fumble was a killer. That's what fumblers do.

Appreciate the analysis. Which games did you view for McFadden? I feel behind without All-22. I'll be honest I'm not excited at all about him, but this helped a smidge.

 

[SilverStarCowboy]

The short game. Getting past the first wave of tacklers, momentum and elusiveness within the first 3 yards, lean before, into and after the line of scrimmage.

DeMarco Murrays' Strongest game = Darren McFaddens' Weakest

 

[jnday]

Great. Thank you. I learned a lot. Moving on...

Well, this is not exactyan of topic, but one big advatage that Murray had was his ability to run well in a zone blocking scheme . McFadden didn't run well at all behind the very same ZBS that Dallas uses. That is a factor IMO.

 

[TrailBlazer]

Stats say McFadden is better at blitz pickup

 

[NextGenBoys]

I don't know what people see when they say Murray doesn't have good vision. It's one of his best traits.

He see's the field much better than DMac

 

[speedkilz88]

I don't know what people see when they say Murray doesn't have good vision. It's one of his best traits.

He see's the field much better than DMac

His vision at the 2nd level has been pretty bad. So I would assume that is most of it. Although I wouldn't put him anywhere near the greats (like Emmitt) when it comes to vision at the line of scrimmage either.

 

[DFWJC]

For a guy that was dominant in college and blew up the combine, he has obviously not met expectations in the NFL. He ran a 4.33 at the combine. Has stature 6'1 210. Analysis:

Scores are for Mcfadden:

Vision: 5/10 -average. On par with Murray. Push to pick one, I'd go with Murray. Really, both are below average to average.

Wiggle/elusiveness: 4/10 -Mcfadden is a one cut. Fast through the line but won't make people miss much. Hopes to blow by them. Murray was not extraordinary here either but Mcfadden is worse. Advantage Murray.

Speed: 9/10 Neither is as fast as they used to be. Murray ran 4.41 and Mcfadden a mind-blowing 4.33. Injuries and age are probably to blame. For 4.33, Mcfadden does get angled/chased down quite often but he gets the Adv. here.

Burst: 7/10: Both are up right runners but I think Mcfadden has more burst or short area quickness through the line.

Pass catching: 10/10 Both do this well. Mcfadden has natural + hands and gets the slight Adv.

Power: 7/10 Though Mcfadden is a nice NFL sized back, Murray is a power proven work horse. Adv. Murray.

Fumble/Reliability: 8/10 in the last two seasons Mcfadden has lost 2 fumbles and Murray a canoe load. Adv. Mcfadden.

Blitz pick up: 8/10 Mcfadden is good, Murray exceptional.

4/4 - tie. Murray is a proven commodity and got paid. Mcfadden is not but cost 5.85 over 2 years. Could be a surprise with this line and playing with a top 5 QB. I agree with not paying Murray and that GB fumble was a killer. That's what fumblers do.

Thanks.
Not sure Murray pass blocks better though. Definitely Not exceptional...IMO.
I think many would give DMC the nod in pass-catching too...though it might be close.
But yes, until proven otherwise, Murray gets a huge edge in the workhorse category.

 

[Oh_Canada]

McFadden is a better at blitz pickup and its not close. He's one of the absolute best in the league at it and Murray was no better than average. I'm not sure why Murray is so frequently overrated in this area.

Me neither, in fact I think this is McFadden's biggest advantage over Murray.

 

[Corso]

Well, this is not exactyan of topic, but one big advatage that Murray had was his ability to run well in a zone blocking scheme . McFadden didn't run well at all behind the very same ZBS that Dallas uses. That is a factor IMO.

Just when I tried to get out... They drag me back in!

That is a good point and I honestly don't believe Mickey Fad is going to be the primary runner (if the coaches have their choice). I think they want him to be a hyper-Dunbar with pass blocking ability. I believe they want someone else to "carry the load" so to speak and mix Mickey Fads in like a sucker punch. Maybe Randle... Maybe... Whoever- I said what I said ******!

 

[sideon]

McFadden is a better at blitz pickup and its not close. He's one of the absolute best in the league at it and Murray was no better than average. I'm not sure why Murray is so frequently overrated in this area.

Thank You, If people go and look and plays where Romo was lit up they'd see Murray whiffing on a blitz. As for speed & vision McFadden is much more effective than Murray, McFadden makes people miss by out running them whereas Murray had to knock them over.