McFadden to Dallas... at #22?

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This strikes me as ridiculous and without much perspective.

But this article written today--which otherwise makes some valid points and shows solid analysis--somehow suggests that McFadden could be in a Brady Quinn/Moss-esque freefall to Dallas at 22. A week from now the guy will probably be back in the top 5. But I found it interesting, nonetheless.

http://www.profootballweekly.com/PFW/The+Way+We+Hear+It/WWHI/2008/wwhi2301.htm
Setting the draft stage


The latest word on what the teams with the top 10 picks are considering


By Dan Arkush
Feb. 25, 2008



INDIANAPOLIS — Now that the coin has been flipped at this year’s Combine to determine the third through fifth spots in the 2008 draft, maybe the Falcons’ fortunes are starting to take a turn for the better. After all, the time seems right for an updated look at the draft strategies and mindsets of the teams who own this year’s top 10 picks.
Here’s what our sources around the league were telling us as the Combine was winding down:


1. Miami — The Dolphins appear to be going out of their way not to tip their hand, but our sources remain pretty confident that the team will select Boston College QB Matt Ryan, provided they don’t trade down. “It’s an easy decision,” a source told PFW. “They are pressing hard to move down now, but I don’t see it happening.”


2. St. Louis — The word is the Rams are looking at both Michigan OLT Jake Long and LSU DT Glenn Dorsey, with a higher priority apparently on the offensive line given the team’s history of busting on early DT prospects. New Rams executive V.P. of player personnel Billy Devaney told PFW at the Combine that he is going to depend “tremendously” on the input of V.P. of player personnel Tony Softli, who suddenly is looking like he’ll stick around through at least the length of his contract, which has two years remaining after the draft.


3. Atlanta — In conversations with team sources, we’re being told that they are looking primarily at quarterback (Ryan), left tackle (Long) and defensive tackle (Dorsey) — in that order. “Tackle is a desperate need,” one team source said. “They don't have a legitimate starting OT on the roster after cutting Wayne Gandy.”


4. Oakland — Raiders officials say the always-intriguing Al Davis will look to fill his team’s most pressing needs first, starting at offensive tackle and defensive tackle. “That’s where it gets interesting,” a rival team executive told PFW. “Maybe (USC NT) Sedrick Ellis goes higher than he should. He’s more like a top-15 pick than top-10, but Al has always loved Trojans, and the head coach (Lane Kiffin) knows Ellis. Or maybe that's where the L.A. kid (Boise State OLT Ryan Clady) goes. Al won't care about (character concerns).”


5. Kansas City — Chiefs officials say they are looking hard at offensive tackle, cornerback and wide receiver, in that order, and will reach for an OT if they can't move down. We hear the preferred OT choice of Chiefs head coach Herm Edwards is Pittsburgh OLT Jeff Otah.


6. N.Y. Jets — The consensus is that they’re looking first and foremost for a running back and a hybrid DE-OLB, with Oregon RB Jonathan Stewart, Virginia DE-OLB Chris Long and Ohio State OLB Vernon Gholston as the primary suspects. The team is still exploring options in free agency, not to mention shopping Jonathan Vilma and Dewayne Robertson — moves that could seriously alter their draft plans.


7. New England — With Asante Samuel asking for $11 million in free agency, a figure the Pats’ brain trust will absolutely not pay, the team is eyeing a cornerback, but more than anything, we hear they would like to move down the same way everyone in front of them would. Said one team insider: “This could be a good spot for Gholston, but their coaches are not that far into the draft yet, coming off their Super Bowl run, and they always have considerable input.”


8. Baltimore — We hear the Ravens would like to address the QB position but will probably be looking for a badly needed cornerback with Ryan expected to be long gone. In that case, our sources believe their choice will likely be either Virginia Tech’s Brandon Flowers or Troy’s Leodis McKelvin.


9. Cincinnati — With Justin Smith on the way out of Cincy, we hear the Bengals are looking hard at defensive end, just as they were a year ago in the first round, when head coach Marvin Lewis loved Jarvis Moss but was scared by his background concerns. Word is Florida’s Derrick Harvey, who has a cleaner character than Moss and is a more versatile player, and Clemson’s Phillip Merling are two players they like a lot. It’s also possible an offensive tackle such as Vanderbilt’s Chris Williams could be an option, with a big run on tackles expected to occur in the top part of Round One.


10. New Orleans — We hear the Saints are desperate for a corner and are not willing to enter the extreme bidding for Samuel, thus making McKelvin, South Florida’s Mike Jenkins and Kansas’ Aqib Talib top considerations.
One more interesting development worth noting: Conspicuous by his absence in the above observations is Darren McFadden, who could be in the midst of a Randy Moss-type plunge in the first round due to character issues the Arkansas running back might not be able to shake.


How bad has it gotten for McFadden, who was widely considered to be a surefire top-five pick not too long ago? Not only has his stock fallen beneath the likes of Stewart and Illinois’ Rashard Mendenhall, we also hear fellow Razorbacks RB Felix Jones could now conceivably be selected before him.
Typically in recent years, it has been quarterbacks who have fallen hard. The safe landing spot for McFadden, as it was for free-falling Brady Quinn a year ago, is at No. 22, where fellow Arkansas alum and Cowboys owner Jerry Jones is still said to be very interested, if he does not get overexcited and package his two first-round picks to land him sooner. Carolina, who traded down a year ago, and Chicago both need runners and are prime trading candidates who could help Dallas end a McFadden free fall. Perhaps helping offset some of McFadden’s character concerns is the unofficial 4.27 time he posted in the 40-yard dash at the Combine.
 

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Worst case... the Pats take him.
But if he makes it out of top 5.... he will be NY Jet.
 

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YoMick;1969463 said:
Worst case... the Pats take him.
But if he makes it out of top 5.... he will be NY Jet.

Yep. I don't see McFadden making it past the Jets. Thomas Jones is not getting any younger, and he hasn't really lit it up since becoming a Jet.
 

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AD was supposed to fall last year too with those injury concerns. Don't count on it happening this year either.
 

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There's no way we'd get him at 22. Even if nobody else picked him... if he falls out of the top 10, Jerry will trade up to about 12 and nab him.
 

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YoMick;1969463 said:
Worst case... the Pats take him.
But if he makes it out of top 5.... he will be NY Jet.


That's exactly my thoughts. Although I just know if he makes it to Oakland at #4 then Davis is taking him. I'll be really shocked if he gets past Oakland.
 

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Brady Quinn was the best QB last year, and he fell to 22.
Randy Moss was a freak, and he fell, as well.

It's not impossible to think he would fall, but it is highly improbable.

I just find it amazing that the issue is even being discussed. That tells me there is some reason to think he won't be that high.

Is this why Mayock does not have him rated in his top 20?
 

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Dan Arkush is hitting the wacky tacky tobacky and eating some special brownies.
 

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If he starts to fall that much, I wouldn't be surprised if we do a deal with our #28 pick and our first rounder next year (maybe throw in a 4th this year) to move up and get him around 15 or somewhere thereabouts.

You never know how a draft will go. Quinn, Jackson, etc... This would certainly be thrilling if things shook out like that.
 

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Steven Jackson was rumored to drop to our pick leading up to the draft but everyone said it wasn't going to happen, we'd never have a shot. Stranger things have happened. I just don't see DMac dropping to #22 mainly because every team will be trying to rape JJ and his 2 1st round picks.
 

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dallasfaniac;1969530 said:
Steven Jackson was rumored to drop to our pick leading up to the draft but everyone said it wasn't going to happen, we'd never have a shot. Stranger things have happened. I just don't see DMac dropping to #22 mainly because every team will be trying to rape JJ and his 2 1st round picks.

I disagree. This would be the strangest drop in the history of the NFL Draft.
 

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If he starts to fall that much, I wouldn't be surprised if we do a deal with our #28 pick and our first rounder next year (maybe throw in a 4th this year) to move up and get him around 15 or somewhere thereabouts.

You never know how a draft will go. Quinn, Jackson, etc... This would certainly be thrilling if things shook out like that.


I all honesty, I wouldn't mind trading our #28 and next year's first for him any way if we could get him for that.

I have been on both sides of the fence with DMac. I wanted him so bad, and then didn't think he was worth what it would take to get him.

With as much waffling as I've done on the subject, the #28 and next year's first just about fits the bill.
 

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:pray: at us getting Dmac at #22....but it will never happen
 

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I think McFadden will be a undrafted free agent. :rolleyes:


No way McFadden drops out of the top five in my opinion. (top seven at absolute worst!) Not because he is actually worth it, but because the preception of his value.

Same thing with Reggie Bush. Lendale White looked more dominating than he did except for Bush running freely (read untouched) through defenses. That doesn't happen in the NFL, and Bush didn't translate like all the world claimed he would.

McFadden won't run freely in the NFL like he did in college, but the preception is out there. He will be drafted early because of it.
 

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nyc;1969553 said:
I think McFadden will be a undrafted free agent. :rolleyes:


No way McFadden drops out of the top five in my opinion. (top seven at absolute worst!) Not because he is actually worth it, but because the preception of his value.

Same thing with Reggie Bush. Lendale White looked more dominating than he did except for Bush running freely (read untouched) through defenses. That doesn't happen in the NFL, and Bush didn't translate like all the world claimed he would.
McFadden won't run freely in the NFL like he did in college, but the preception is out there. He will be drafted early because of it.


I love how everyone has Reggie Bush's entire NFL career already written after a pretty solid Rookie year and a injury plagued Sophomore year.
 

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The Texans are not going to pass on McFadden if he drops even that far. Come on folks.
 

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The Texans are not going to pass on McFadden if he drops even that far. Come on folks.


Yeah.... no matter what anyone says.... those fans want to be satisfied with a redemption pick (passin on Bush).

It would be a good move on their part.
 

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CATCH17;1969539 said:
I disagree. This would be the strangest drop in the history of the NFL Draft.

You need to look back at some draft history then.

From the Falcons trying to draft John Wayne to the Commanders drafting the same player in consecutive drafts, there have been plenty of events stranger than a RB dropping in the draft because of character and physical concerns.
 

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this thing is crap anyway. first Chris Long is not going to fall past the top three and there is no way RunDMC falls to 22
 

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CATCH17;1969557 said:
I love how everyone has Reggie Bush's entire NFL career already written after a pretty solid Rookie year and a injury plagued Sophomore year.

Are you refering to me? I didn't write his career, but if you are prepared to challenge what I said that Reggie Bush isn't going to be the second coming of Ladainian Tomlinson, then go ahead.

USA Today link
USA Today said:
Reggie Bush is already drawing comparisons to Gale Sayers, LaDainian Tomlinson and has even been projected as an NFL version of Michael Jordan.

I said he could be an Eric Metcalf type player.
 
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