McGee vs. Orton

[Idgit]

For some reason I think they got Orton because he was simply available and this team likes veteran back up quarterbacks.

I think it had more to do with Orton being available and less about what they think about McGee. If Orton hadn't been available, I'm almost certain we'd be going into this season with McGee as our backup.

Remember, we were still in contention for the playoffs last year with an injured Romo, and we hung with McGee as our primary backup without going out and getting a veteran to replace Kitna. The only one we made a play for was Orton.

It seems to me that this team likes Orton over McGee, but they don't really like anyone else over McGee.

I don't agree. If they thought McGee could cut it at QB2, he'd have gotten a shot. I understand sticking with the guy for one game at the end of the season, but with an offseason to get a replacement up to speed, there was very little chance we were going to sit tight with Kitna gone.

As I implied earlier, I think Carpenter's got a better chance of sticking on this team, but we'll see what happens in the game. Either way, I want a developmental guy on a multi year deal in McGee's spot.

 

[Avenging Hayseed]

McGee.........Great kid,..good athlete. But thats where it ends.

Still doesnt see the field in the way that NFL QB's do. Thus the reason he is still throwing so many checkdowns.

When throwing downfield he has to SEE the w.r break open. If you need to do that your already too late.

Needs to speed up his mental game by almost a full second,...that second is the difference between being a legit starting QB someday and not.

The kid is tough though, cant take that away from him.


IMO he has to make a BIG jump early in camp.........or he's gone. If I were a betting man I would say he doesnt make the team.

 

[bark]

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[noshame]

Orton was brought here because he's a great fit for our offense; his forte is getting the ball out quickly/accurately into a tight space. That said, good luck if he has to scramble.

McGee has the same arm, but not the confidence to use it.

 

[NickZepp]

Orton has started throughout his career and has a good arm and all but he makes too many mistakes as a starter.

I kinda agree with the first post of this thread. McGee isn't all that bad. If Romo gets hurt real bad I would rather see McGee play in the end. He won't make as many mistakes and if we have our running backs healthy we would rely more on them.

 

[casmith07]

Thoughts on McGee? Cut him.

Use the roster space for an extra DB, LB, DL, or OL.

 

[visionary]

i think he can develop

this is likely his last camp with cowboys to show what he can do

he will not beat out orton but he has to convince the cowboys to keep 3 QBs rather than 2

 

[Hostile]

Thoughts on McGee? Cut him.

Use the roster space for an extra DB, LB, DL, or OL.

I'll be shocked if he makes this team. I think we go with 2 QBs like we did with Romo and Brad Johnson one season.

 

[Avenging Hayseed]

I'll be shocked if he makes this team. I think we go with 2 QBs like we did with Romo and Brad Johnson one season.

Agree 100%

 

[Yeagermeister]

If it's a choice between the two then it's Orton hands down.

 

[skicat1898]

McGee will make the team if we go with 3 QBs. He knows the system and is in the 4th year of a 4 year contract, he is cheap to keep.

Carpenter was here before and didn't stick, camp arm.

 

[Doomsday101]

I actually see a lot of potential in McGee. Call me silly.... It's been done before. But the guy has a big canon. A confident ego. And he's very mobile.

McGee, as some say, is a run-of-the-mill quarterback. McGee may not be seasoned, but that's not how you judge a quarterback.

With that said, I know the hype surrounding Orton. But his record with the Broncos was pretty shoddy. Here's to hoping it was them and not him, but I do think McGee is legit.

Thoughts?

I think this is a big year for McGee. He has to step up and prove himself. He is a FA after this season. Orton in my view comes in as the backup McGee will have to bring his best if he has any hope of becoming the backup.

 

[ufcrules1]

Mcgee who? Come on son... Orton all day. I feel 100% good that if Romo goes down, that Orton can come in and play at a high level giving us a chance to win.

 

[Doomsday101]

Mcgee who? Come on son... Orton all day. I feel 100% good that if Romo goes down, that Orton can come in and play at a high level giving us a chance to win.

I fully expect Orton to win the job, it is McGee job to go out and prove different.

 

[SDCowboy]

You think McGee is a legit, what? He'll never even be a bus driver starting QB. He's a career 3rd stringer if he's even in the league after we let he go. He'll never even be a backup.

 

[Doomsday101]

You think McGee is a legit, what? He'll never even be a bus driver starting QB. He's a career 3rd stringer if he's even in the league after we let he go. He'll never even be a backup.

I think players are expected to go out and prove themselfs on the field, if he can show he has developed and improved then great if not then chances are he will be gone. How fans feel does not mean much it is what players do on the field that will determin his future.

 

[Bullflop]

I don't think there's any doubt McGee has made at least some measure of progress since his initial introduction to the Cowboys. It's pretty difficult for one to make a totally accurate judgment based on what little has been seen of him in his limited preseason action, however.

Nevertheless, the staff has seen far more of him than any of us has been privy to and hasn't seen fit to elevate his status after his having logged three years in our system. Accordingly, I do suspect Rudy Carpenter has been acquired mainly as competition to spur something extra from McGee that hasn't yet proven strongly evident. Now into his 4th year, it's high time for him to shine.

The upcoming TC and preseason figures to be a crucial one for him in terms of determining his football future, whether it's in Dallas or elsewhere. His level of improvement has been fairly incremental each year during his stay at Valley Ranch. Whether or not that pace has been what is expected of him him by those who really count is highly questionable. For his sake, it would seem he'd do well to be more decisive and in control if he expects to stick around much longer.

 

[Doomsday101]

I don't think there's any doubt McGee has made at least some measure of progress since his initial introduction to the Cowboys. It's pretty difficult for one to make a totally accurate judgment based on what little has been seen of him in his limited preseason action, however.

Nevertheless, the staff has seen far more of him than any of us has been privy to and hasn't seen fit to elevate his status after his having logged three years in our system. Accordingly, I do suspect Rudy Carpenter has been acquired mainly as competition to spur something extra from McGee that hasn't yet proven strongly evident. Now into his 4th year, it's high time for him to shine.

The upcoming TC and preseason figures to be a crucial one for him in terms of determining his football future, whether it's in Dallas or elsewhere. His level of improvement has been fairly incremental each year during his stay at Valley Ranch. Whether or not that pace has been what is expected of him him by those who really count is highly questionable. For his sake, it would seem he'd do well to be more decisive and in control if he expects to stick around much longer.

I fully agree with you. I see this as McGee last stand and I think he will have to go out and play quality ball if he expects to remain.

 

[Romo2Bryant4Six]

I think I've seen enough of McGee to say that I'm not all that impressed with him. The best thing about him is his mobility, which is excellent, but other than that...meh.

I totally agree with you. If McGee were to be put in a position to lead this team, it would hard to watch. "meh" is the feeling I've always had about him in whatever situation he's been in.

 

[CowboyMcCoy]

I don't think there's any doubt McGee has made at least some measure of progress since his initial introduction to the Cowboys. It's pretty difficult for one to make a totally accurate judgment based on what little has been seen of him in his limited preseason action, however.

I think the Cowboys know this. Orton is a sure bet for a number two, but he has about a .500 win/loss record. To me that doesn't say much because he's still sort of young and has been with numerous teams, none of which were us. We saw how good Jon Kitna could be if he could be with a good surrounding cast.

People say Romo made the line look good; Kitna played well behind it too.

Nevertheless, the staff has seen far more of him than any of us has been privy to and hasn't seen fit to elevate his status after his having logged three years in our system. Accordingly, I do suspect Rudy Carpenter has been acquired mainly as competition to spur something extra from McGee that hasn't yet proven strongly evident. Now into his 4th year, it's high time for him to shine.

We want to have competition at every position, and depth as well. I don't see much difference in our guys at quarterbacks from 2-3 in terms of potential. The thing is, Orton has already reached his. I'm definitely not saying McGee is Romo. He doesn't have that kinds of swagger and moxie. But he could be a confident quarterback if someone gave him a chance.

We've seen it with Matt Moore. No one here thought he had anything, well, because we didn't see enough of him....

The upcoming TC and preseason figures to be a crucial one for him in terms of determining his football future, whether it's in Dallas or elsewhere. His level of improvement has been fairly incremental each year during his stay at Valley Ranch. Whether or not that pace has been what is expected of him him by those who really count is highly questionable. For his sake, it would seem he'd do well to be more decisive and in control if he expects to stick around much longer.

I hope he does stick around. That would mean our team is getting that much better.