McGinn - NFL Draft Outlook

[Plankton]

http://m.jsonline.com/sports/packers/2016-nfl-draft-outlook-b99676279z1-370399721.html


Carson Wentz, QB, North Dakota State: 6-5, 237. Played behind Waupaca's Brock Jensen until 2014. A wrist injury in '15 limited him to just 23 career starts. "He's a big guy with a big arm," said one scout. "The ball gets there. He's not a scrambler per se but he has speed. He might be the most physically talented of the group. Would I be nervous with this guy? Absolutely. But if you have no quarterback at all, what do you got to lose?" Finished with an NFL passer rating of 105.2. Scored 29 on the 50-question Wonderlic intelligence test. "He's got an arm," another scout said. "But it's such a long way from that level of play to the NFL at any position, let alone quarterback."

Jared Goff*, QB, California: 6-4, 215. Third-year junior with 37 starts. "He might be the most ready," one scout said. "Thing I don't like is his slender build. He did not have a lot of talent around him. Does he have a great arm? No, but it's good enough. I'd be nervous taking him above 10." Posted an NFL passer rating of 98.9. "In terms of arm talent, he'll be like (Jay) Cutler," another scout said. "Skinny kid. Gets hit a bunch. He doesn't see everything. Accuracy is off at times, but he is talented. He can really spin it. Really good feet."

Paxton Lynch*, QB, Memphis: 6-7, 244. Fourth-year junior. "There's stuff he doesn't see but, boy, is he a great athlete for a big guy," one scout said. "He's got good feet and can make all the throws." His NFL passer rating of 93.5 included 110.6 in 2015. "Big production in a lot of games, so-so in some others," another scout said. "Pretty good athlete for a big kid. Excellent size. He's got a big ceiling. It's a weird group of quarterbacks. None of them are just ready-made and none of them show consistency. They're good, solid starters. None of them are Pro Bowl-caliber type quarterbacks. I would take (Jameis) Winston and (Marcus) Mariota over these guys. No question."

 

[Shinaoi]

Kind of odd he would say Goff doesn't have that big of an arm, but then compares his arm talent to someone like cutler who has one of the stronger arms in the league. Goff doesn't have cutlers arm, but he has touch which cutler lacks. He also says Goff doesn't see everything, but reading the fields is one of his main strengths.

I disagree about these guys being lower than mariotta, but I was never big on him. His last point about these three not being pro bowl caliber qbs? Really...who was in the pro bowl this year, Carr and Winston. It's not that hard to make it anymore. Unless he saying they don't compare to the top 3 guys in each conference.

I personally like this group of qbs way more than most seem too.

 

[JBS]

Kind of odd he would say Goff doesn't have that big of an arm, but then compares his arm talent to someone like cutler who has one of the stronger arms in the league. Goff doesn't have cutlers arm, but he has touch which cutler lacks. He also says Goff doesn't see everything, but reading the fields is one of his main strengths.

I disagree about these guys being lower than mariotta, but I was never big on him. His last point about these three not being pro bowl caliber qbs? Really...who was in the pro bowl this year, Carr and Winston. It's not that hard to make it anymore. Unless he saying they don't compare to the top 3 guys in each conference.

I personally like this group of qbs way more than most seem too.

The aren't his opinions..they're opinions from multiple scouts...even multiple scouts on the same player...that's why you will read contradicting opinions

 

[Shinaoi]

The aren't his opinions..they're opinions from multiple scouts...even multiple scouts on the same player...that's why you will read contradicting opinions

Ah okay that makes sense.

 

[CATCH17]

I personally like this group of qbs way more than most seem too.

Definetely some interesting talents in this draft.

A guy like Hackenberg for example. His arm talent is incredible but he gets a little careless with the football and lacks touch on his throws.

Some people blame most of his problems on supporting cast.

Just so many interesting prospects.

 

[Mr Cowboy]

I'm leery of these nonprofessional scouts and their assessments, or better known as click bait articles. I've been listening to NFL radio throughout the combine, and they have had guests after guests, HC, GM, NFL Scouts, and professional trainers on there, and none have sad anything near what this guy is saying.

 

[visionary]

I'm leery of these nonprofessional scouts and their assessments, or better known as click bait articles. I've been listening to NFL radio throughout the combine, and they have had guests after guests, HC, GM, NFL Scouts, and professional trainers on there, and none have sad anything near what this guy is saying.

While this is true, what you say in public and what you might actually think and say in private as a talent evaluator may be 2 very different things

 

[AdamJT13]

I'm leery of these nonprofessional scouts and their assessments, or better known as click bait articles. I've been listening to NFL radio throughout the combine, and they have had guests after guests, HC, GM, NFL Scouts, and professional trainers on there, and none have sad anything near what this guy is saying.

You realize that "this guy" is quoting actual NFL scouts and general managers, right? Bob McGinn is the best there is at getting the true opinions from those types of people. When they can remain anonymous, they don't have to be PC and vague like they do on NFL radio or other TV/radio outlets. They can say what they really think.

 

[fortdick]

Romo has never been known for a great arm.

I think it is a bonus that none are turn key QB's. We need a guy to be Tony's back up as long as he can still play.

"Cleveland is on the clock, please remove all sharp objects from the QB table."

 

[Oh_Canada]

You realize that "this guy" is quoting actual NFL scouts and general managers, right? Bob McGinn is the best there is at getting the true opinions from those types of people. When they can remain anonymous, they don't have to be PC and vague like they do on NFL radio or other TV/radio outlets. They can say what they really think.

But do they really? If a scout is employed by say, the Dallas Cowboys and they looooooove Goff, wouldn't it be in his best interest to publicly devalue the player?

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

But do they really? If a scout is employed by say, the Dallas Cowboys and they looooooove Goff, wouldn't it be in his best interest to publicly devalue the player?

They are anonymous so it makes no difference.

 

[Alexander]

Definetely some interesting talents in this draft.

A guy like Hackenberg for example. His arm talent is incredible but he gets a little careless with the football and lacks touch on his throws.

Some people blame most of his problems on supporting cast.

Just so many interesting prospects.

I would not call a lot of them "interesting", but more puzzling.

It is not a draft with much talent at the top. Not many "elite" players. But a good bit of good players.

It might be one of those drafts you look back years from now and the first round is full of busts and the second/third were rich with pretty decent players.