Mcginn/scouts on CB and S in 2023 draft

[Verdict]

Why in the world would you trade Diggs? Misses a few tackles? Teams are scared to throw the football against him cause of his ball skills. He is a core player that isn't going anywhere.

I like the player. But much like Dak, I think if we give him a second contract it will be a mistake.

 

[Cowboyny]

I like the player. But much like Dak, I think if we give him a second contract it will be a mistake.

I think we will see how valuable he is this season as teams won't pick on Gilmore as much as they did with Brown.

 

[jterrell]

That’s the uninformed answer

The real answer is that it is about expending resources wisely and understanding that great and consistent defense is about discipline and tackling and built around front 7 and safety play not by spending 22 million on a CB who won’t tackle

My proposal in the early off season was to trade Diggs for a rd 1 pick with which you take a CB like Porter or Forbes and use the 22 million saved on signing Hargrave and Wagner

You really believe that Diggs is worth more than Porter/Forbes + Hargrave + Wagner?

Maybe you do

No offense man but this doesn't make much sense.
Forbes could not consistently tackle in the SEC.
He could not consistently tackle versus Texas Tech either.
So you want to replace a 200-pound corner who makes business decisions with a 166 pound guy that can not physically tackle AND likely gets bullied at the top of routes??
Forbes is an elite CB3/slot prospect. You could spot start him outside but he likely can't make a career out there. R2 guy with some special upside in a specific use case.

There isn't a single CB in this class who is as good as Diggs day 1.
Christian Gonzales is a clone physically but with lesser ball skills and more desire to tackle.
He is a CB2 day 1 that can grow to special.
Devon might ALWAYS be a top CB2 just because of size.
Like Mo Claiborne he dominated college but he wasn't facing NFL caliber WRs weekly and certainly not NFL WR1s.

Dallas could do very well in R2 or R3 at CB with a guy that can be CB2 in 2024 or 25. (Gilmore being a FA doesn't mean his definitely gone).
This CB class lacks top end but has good depth.

 

[visionary]

No offense man but this doesn't make much sense.
Forbes could not consistently tackle in the SEC.
He could not consistently tackle versus Texas Tech either.
So you want to replace a 200-pound corner who makes business decisions with a 166 pound guy that can not physically tackle AND likely gets bullied at the top of routes??
Forbes is an elite CB3/slot prospect. You could spot start him outside but he likely can't make a career out there. R2 guy with some special upside in a specific use case.

There isn't a single CB in this class who is as good as Diggs day 1.
Christian Gonzales is a clone physically but with lesser ball skills and more desire to tackle.
He is a CB2 day 1 that can grow to special.
Devon might ALWAYS be a top CB2 just because of size.
Like Mo Claiborne he dominated college but he wasn't facing NFL caliber WRs weekly and certainly not NFL WR1s.

Dallas could do very well in R2 or R3 at CB with a guy that can be CB2 in 2024 or 25. (Gilmore being a FA doesn't mean his definitely gone).
This CB class lacks top end but has good depth.

No offense taken
You’re ignoring the fact that I’m looking at it from the perspective of the total defense and you’re looking at it only as one CB vs another.
My point is that I don’t want to pay Diggs 22 million/y to make business decisions. I’d rather take a really good CB in his place and sign great DT and LB with that money
If the scouts feels Forbes is not as good then take Banks or Turner

I’ll take a defense with Hargrave and Hankins at DT and Wagner and LVE and Parsons at LB with Forbes or Banks or Turner and Gilmore at CB than a defense with Hankins and Osa at DT and no Wagner while paying Diggs 22 million

It’s pretty clear we disagree on how to build a great and consistent defense. The days of the shut down CB are done, the front 7 significantly increase the effectiveness of CBs

 

[Smith22]

The days of the shut down CB are done, the front 7 significantly increase the effectiveness of CBs

Sauce Gardner says hello.

 

[Silver Surfer]

That’s the uninformed answer

The real answer is that it is about expending resources wisely and understanding that great and consistent defense is about discipline and tackling and built around front 7 and safety play not by spending 22 million on a CB who won’t tackle

My proposal in the early off season was to trade Diggs for a rd 1 pick with which you take a CB like Porter or Forbes and use the 22 million saved on signing Hargrave and Wagner

You really believe that Diggs is worth more than Porter/Forbes + Hargrave + Wagner?

Maybe you do

You're right.. I am uniformed. Mainly because I understand what I think about how or why the Cowboys conduct their roster is completely irrelevent not only in my own life, but to the people who actually run the team.

Do you really believe that anything you think makes a scintilla of impact on the team's roster?

Maybe you do.