McNabb breaks silence on Eagles drafting QB Kolb

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FuzzyLumpkins;1491894 said:
The impression i have of McNabb is that hes a class act to the public and a class A turd to his teammates and coaches.
Mark Eckel from the Trenton Times was on a local Philly sports radio show this morning. He said that this is McNabb's "farewell tour", because the Eagles are going to try to deal him or cut him after this season.

He also said that while McNabb says all the right things in public, he is not a good teammate, with a fragile ego and a desire to always be the center of attention. We know how he feuded with T.O., but Eckel said that he also fumed when others on the team have been successful.

Which players are worse, the ones who say all the right things but are locker room cancers, or the ones who where their heart on their sleeve and speak their mind?
 

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FuzzyLumpkins;1491894 said:
The impression i have of McNabb is that hes a class act to the public and a class A turd to his teammates and coaches.
 

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Doomsday;1492125 said:
I agree he is smart enough to know what to say to the media, but you know his is whining and complaining to his Reid and his teammates. McFlabb is as two faced as they come.

I guess that's one way to look at it. The other way is he's playing the game correctly. He needs to ***** internally and say the right things externally. Anyone gets itchy looking over their shoulder even when they know its inevitable and necessary. The Eagles are doing their thing to protect themselves over the long haul. McNabb is being normal and doing it without causing problems. If he was completely truthful...well you know that outcome.
 

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McNabb's way is always the best way. TO's way is always the wrong way.

If you have problems with mgmt and you're a true team leader you keep it in house, like McNabb did.

A quarterback should be assertive--in house, but should never run to his favorite lapdog in the press to send a "message" to his team.

McNabb was doubly wronged here, he needed Robert Meachum or a TE or an OL guy he had every right to expect help. not a rookie competitor when he's only 30 with 5-7 good years in front of him.
 

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NorthDalal;1492427 said:
not a rookie competitor when he's only 30 with 5-7 good years in front of him.


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Please, he cannot come out and say he was pissed, not McNabb the company man.
 

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NorthDalal;1492427 said:
McNabb was doubly wronged here, he needed Robert Meachum or a TE or an OL guy he had every right to expect help. not a rookie competitor when he's only 30 with 5-7 good years in front of him.

McNabb has already passed his 5-7 good years, hence the reason for the Kolb pick. QBs that play at a high level for 13-15 years are rare. Marino and Elway come to mind, and McNabb is not of their caliber.

No way the Eagles would pick up Kolb if they thought McNabb had many more years left in the tank. He is already going on his 9th year now.
 

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I wonder if he started limping around the house when he saw Kolb was drafted, acting like he had an injury when something bad happened to him...
 

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Don Corleone;1493099 said:
McNabb has already passed his 5-7 good years, hence the reason for the Kolb pick. QBs that play at a high level for 13-15 years are rare. Marino and Elway come to mind, and McNabb is not of their caliber.

No way the Eagles would pick up Kolb if they thought McNabb had many more years left in the tank. He is already going on his 9th year now.

Yes.

I would have loved to see his face when they announced the pick.

Priceless.
 

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TheSkaven;1492281 said:
He also said that while McNabb says all the right things in public, he is not a good teammate, with a fragile ego and a desire to always be the center of attention. We know how he feuded with T.O., but Eckel said that he also fumed when others on the team have been successful.

Again, this is what fueled the Owens situation.

It was fairly obvious, unless you believed the tales that McNabb was well respected and it was a harmonious environment prior to his acquisition.

Owens didn't do anything other than widen an already divided lockerroom that had lost respect for McNabb. Yes, he's at fault, but he told the truth concerning McNabb, no question.
 

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5Stars;1491779 said:
:laugh2:

Of course he won't reveal his convo with Andy...!

All Andy did was get McPuke (Andy's lap dog) to sit on his lap, give him a little puppy treat, scratch his big ugly ears, and tell him it's all good...

McNabb is a very weak minded guy! Just last week he was pouting like a brat...now, after talking to his owner, he's find and dandy?

OK?


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When you look at it, how weak minded McFlabb is, compare him to Garcia, one can almost understand the irritation our very own TO must have had playing with players like these. Enough to play on anyone's patience. The very type of personalities that very much rub certain people the wrong way. Maybe TO isn't so bad, just has ****ty luck. Lol. I mean imagine how psycho those two could even have made Irvin?
 

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I think Sal Pal sums the situation up pretty well in his ESPN.com article:

McNabb, of all people, should know better

Rewind to spring 2003. The Philadelphia Eagles were in the process of cleaning house. The team and several popular 30-something players were parting ways, and it was not going over real well in the locker room.
"You try to sit back and learn from it, because you never know," said one veteran leader. "In a couple of years, it could be you."
The veteran who said that? Quarterback Donovan McNabb.
So, when McNabb said on Tuesday he was "shocked" to learn that the Eagles drafted his possible replacement with their first pick, he should've known it was coming. Under Andy Reid, this is the way Philly rolls.

Nobody knows that better than McNabb. And any objective analysis of this Eagles team -- left on the doorstep of a championship for nearly his entire tenure in Philadelphia -- would conclude that McNabb could easily be the next victim.

He will turn 31 in November. By the end of November the past two seasons, McNabb was unavailable due to injury -- a sports hernia in 2005 and a torn-up knee in 2006. And the Philadelphia landscape is littered with productive players who reached 30 and were shown the door -- Bobby Taylor, Troy Vincent, Duce Staley, Brian Mitchell, Hugh Douglas and Jeff Garcia.

Nevertheless, by drafting quarterback Kevin Kolb of Houston with their first pick in last month's draft, the Eagles sent the town and the team into a tailspin tailor-made for talk radio. Privately, many players are wondering whether this makes McNabb a lame duck -- not in 2008, or some undefined future, but right now. "It's Super Bowl or bust for Donovan this year," said a veteran defensive player. "And everybody knows it."

And right now, McNabb is a long way from taking this team back to the Super Bowl -- because he still can't get on the field. On Saturday, the Eagles will begin the first of three minicamp practices, which include the full squad, and McNabb will be a spectator. It will be the first time since McNabb's rookie year, in 1999, that the Eagles will start preparations for a new season without No. 5 taking the first team snaps.

Ironically, this weekend, Philadelphia will get a sneak preview of the future. And that snapshot could turn into a long, simmering drama this summer. McNabb professed he will be back for training camp on July 27. But for a quarterback at his age, returning from knee injury is no guarantee. (See: Daunte Culpepper.)

Actually, he went further than that in prognosticating his return. In fact, it turned out to be one of the more interesting developments of McNabb's local press tour. He pronounced that he will be ready to go by the time the Eagles play their second preseason game on Aug. 17 at Lincoln Financial Field in Philadelphia. While fans may be happy to hear McNabb has created his own timetable for a return, Reid may not be thrilled the quarterback usurped the head coach's power to make that decision for the team.
It's important to point out here the manner in which McNabb spoke out Tuesday. It was not done at the Eagles' NovaCare Complex in Philadelphia -- the site of every other McNabb press event since the venue opened five years ago. No, McNabb spoke at a skating rink in South Jersey. It was handled not by the Eagles public relations department but by a fired former member of that staff whom McNabb has hired to help with media relations for his foundation and charity work. The four local media outlets invited to the event did not include the Eagles' official TV station, the local ABC affiliate.

Indeed, it seems that by going public the way he did, McNabb was trying to exert a little bit more control over his destiny. And perhaps show a little defiance.
But let's go back to his decision to announce that he would be ready to play by mid-August. Why would McNabb push it? Why would he rush back and possibly jeopardize his long-term health? (Again, see Culpepper.)

It always comes back to the money. In 2007, the Eagles will pay McNabb $5.5 million in salary. The following year, that number increases to $6.3 million. The Eagles hold an option for 2009, when McNabb is due $9.2 million. In 2010, he is owed a $10 million salary.

Let's assume that McNabb is the starter in 2007. That means this is an evaluation year. If McNabb plays well, stays healthy and takes the Eagles deep into the playoffs or back to the Super Bowl, he's most likely back in 2008. If not, the Eagles have no history of paying 32-year-old, injury-prone players who can't get it done for that kind of money. And if they were to consider trading McNabb, next offseason is the time to do it -- before his contract becomes too big and he becomes too old for a potential trade partner.

Add to this equation the contract that the Eagles will have to pay Kolb. By saying that Kolb is "a franchise quarterback," which is what team general manager Tom Heckert said on draft weekend, the Eagles will have to pay him accordingly -- or close to it. And, under team president Joe Banner, who manages the team's salary cap, the Eagles haven't been the type of team that pays two players starter's money -- if only one of them is starting.
That's why McNabb may be anxious to get on the field. He knows he has much to prove. But that's also why he shouldn't rush it. A setback could make it harder to get back.

"I've been running, I've been throwing and I've been cutting," McNabb said. "But it's not like the injury never happened. It's still there. I'm still getting stronger, but I'm not 100 percent, and that's the way I want to come back."
Lost in all this is something that finally dawned on Reid and his brain trust this offseason: This team can function fine without Donovan McNabb. That's the dirty little secret revealed by Jeff Garcia's magic act in the final two months of 2006.
Let's compare McNabb and Garcia. McNabb won five games and had a passer rating of 95.5. Garcia won five games with a rating of 95.8. According to the Elias Sports Bureau, that's the only time in NFL history that a team had two different quarterbacks each win five or more games and have a rating higher than 90 in the same season.
The reason? Brian Westbrook. In the second half of the season, the Eagles running back -- following tackle Jon Runyan and guard Shawn Andrews on the right side of the line -- was the linchpin of the offense once Reid turned the play-calling duties over to offensive coordinator Marty Mornhinweg. In the nine games prior to McNabb's injury, Westbrook had more than 20 carries in a game just once. After McNabb got injured, Westbrook passed the 20-carry mark three times in six games.

Westbrook gave the Eagles offense an identity. Reid -- loath to run the ball in his tenure as head coach -- brought back Westbrook's running mate, Correll Buckhalter, for the 2007 season. And he drafted a power running back, Tony Hunt, out of Penn State, signaling that the central focus of his offense is undergoing a not-so-subtle shift.
What does that mean? Well, by allowing Garcia to take his magic act to Tampa Bay, the Eagles were forced to make contingency plans for the future:

• Beef up the running game. Check.
• Secure not one, but two suitable veteran backup quarterbacks in A.J. Feeley and Kelly Holcomb. Check.
• Draft McNabb's eventual replacement. Check.
Under Reid, this is the how Philly rolls.
 

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ThreeSportStar80;1491802 said:
Donovan McNugget is a class act, he's handling things the right way.

He'll do his dirty work behind the scenes. He always does.
 

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Act I - QB-WR Controversy (2005)
Act II - QB Controversy (2006)
Act III - HC/QB Controversy (2007)
- Intermission -
Act III resumes - QB Controversy


Did I forget something?:lmao2:


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GlitzCowboy;1493222 said:
When you look at it, how weak minded McFlabb is, compare him to Garcia, one can almost understand the irritation our very own TO must have had playing with players like these. Enough to play on anyone's patience. The very type of personalities that very much rub certain people the wrong way. Maybe TO isn't so bad, just has ****ty luck. Lol. I mean imagine how psycho those two could even have made Irvin?


Well think about it.... How mad you YOU be if your GREAT QB lost you the SB that you finally helped get too?

I know *I* would be pissed!
 

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YoMick;1493360 said:
Act I - QB-WR Controversy (2005)
Act II - QB Controversy (2006)
Act III - HC/QB Controversy (2007)
- Intermission -
Act III resumes - QB Controversy


Did I forget something?:lmao2:


:trophy:

Nope!

You nailed it!
:hammer:
 

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McFlabby is over-rated. I hope Kolb has a great summer to put even more pressure on McFlabby to perform -- likely to split team when he doesn't and the season will potentially be lost for them....

Dallas D will chase McFlabby down and pound him... Kolb will get McFlabby's chunky soup.
 

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I still don't understand why a player of his calibre is afraid of a rookie QB?

McNabb seems extremely fragile, mentally and very sensitive to criticism directed towards his way (much like another player on this team he use to play with). I would think the guy would be battle-hardened by now, with all the criticism that has been directed his way, both deserved and undeserved, literally since he was drafted by the Eagles.

No amount of B'chin and Moaning is going to change the fact that they drafted a QB.

- Mike G.
 

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mickgreen58;1493384 said:
I still don't understand why a player of his calibre is afraid of a rookie QB?

McNabb seems extremely fragile, mentally and very sensitive to criticism directed towards his way (much like another player on this team he use to play with). I would think the guy would be battle-hardened by now, with all the criticism that has been directed his way, both deserved and undeserved, literally since he was drafted by the Eagles.

No amount of B'chin and Moaning is going to change the fact that they drafted a QB.

- Mike G.

Different issues for TO than McNabb. TO doesnt have a history of problems with players because of competition or spotlight stuff. TO's problem has always been about winning(whether it be the TEAM or his contributions to winning)
 
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