McNabb terribly overrated

[Apollo Creed]

Let's flash back a few years in Eagle history....

In 2001 against Tampa Bay in the NFC championship game, Donovan McNabb ended the season with an interception in the Eagles final drive.

In 2002 against St. Louis in the NFC championship game, Donovan McNabb ended the season with an interception in the Eagles final drive.

In 2003 against Carolina in the NFC championship game, Donovan McNabb had a statistically amazing game... Yet in the final drive he dropped back and managed to find a Carolina defensive back.

In 2004 against New England in the Super Bowl, Donovan McNabb played a solid game but late in the 4th quarter he was struggling to breathe and couldn't even call the plays in the huddle. McNabb did manage to make it under center just long enough to drop back and hit Rodney Harrison in the chest, ending their season again.

In 2005 after being verbally attacked and psychologically abused by Terrell Owens (note the sarcasm) McNabb and his Eagles were still mathematically capable of making the playoffs, but on Monday night in front of a national audience managed to throw the game away by finding Roy Williams to give Dallas the win. On that same play, he got owned by Bradie James and his season ended on that play.

So in each season Donovan has choked under pressure, and thrown the game away. How does Philly management reward him? By giving him a 100 million dollar contract, and short changing other players (Corey Simon, Bryan Westbrook, Terrell Owens, etc.)

So who is the bad guy in Philly... Donovan or TO? You decide...

 

[Doomsday101]

Let's flash back a few years in Eagle history....

In 2001 against Tampa Bay in the NFC championship game, Donovan McNabb ended the season with an interception in the Eagles final drive.

In 2002 against St. Louis in the NFC championship game, Donovan McNabb ended the season with an interception in the Eagles final drive.

In 2003 against Carolina in the NFC championship game, Donovan McNabb had a statistically amazing game... Yet in the final drive he dropped back and managed to find a Carolina defensive back.

In 2004 against New England in the Super Bowl, Donovan McNabb played a solid game but late in the 4th quarter he was struggling to breathe and couldn't even call the plays in the huddle. McNabb did manage to make it under center just long enough to drop back and hit Rodney Harrison end the chest, ending their season again.

In 2005 after being verbally attacked and psychologically abused by Terrell Owens (note the sarcasm) McNabb and his Eagles were still mathematically capable of making the playoffs, but on Monday night in front of a national audience managed to throw the game away by finding Roy Williams to give Dallas the win. On that same play, he got owned by Bradie James and his season ended on that play.

So in each season Donovan has choked under pressure, and thrown the game away. How does Philly management reward him? By giving him a 100 million dollar contract, and short changing other players (Corey Simon, Bryan Westbrook, Terrell Owens, etc.)

So who is the bad guy in Philly... Donovan or TO? You decide...

TO is the bad guy and McNabb chokes. Differance. It is not TO job to go out and rip players to the media, he is not a coach nor is he paid to coach he is paid to play the game and he needs to keep his opinions about teammates to himself or behind closed doors not on center stage to ESPN and the other media outlets.

 

[Apollo Creed]

I don't think you guys get it... He has ended their season every year, it has nothing to do with the line or the players around him. He's just chokes, plain and simple.

 

[NorTex]

T.O. is the player.

McNabb is the choker.

T.O. is the talker.

 

[Doomsday101]

I don't think you guys get it... He has ended their season every year, it has nothing to do with the line or the players around him. He's just chokes, plain and simple.

I get it he chokes I also get that McNabb has not been kicked off 2 teams but TO has been and for a good reason.

 

[Apollo Creed]

I shouldn't even have mentioned TO... The argument here is that McNabb is the most overrated QB in the league, and what T.O. said was right about him choking in big games. There is no excuse that the Eagles teams between 2000 and 2005's trophy case looks like this.

 

[aikemirv]

He is not the most accurate QB and that is his downfall. I think that is what causes this choking as you say.

That is his only weakness though IMO. All he does is make plays. All he has done is taken his team to the NFC tiltle game 4 years in a row I believe. I would take that as a Cowboy fan. Sure beats what we have had these past 5 years. He is not overated. I don't see people putting him up there with P Manning or T Brady. He gets the accolades he deserves and is a step below those guys.

Reminds me a lot of Randall Cunningham because all that guy did was make plays, but when it came to crunch time his accuracy suffered and he threw balls in the dirt.

 

[Apollo Creed]

That seperates the good QBs from the great QBs, and McNabb is considered a top 5 NFL QB. He's a good QB that can make plays, but he should never be considered one of the best in the league. He's getting paid like he's one of the best, but he's not performing like he's one of the best. Therefore... He's overrated.

 

[aikemirv]

That seperates the good QBs from the great QBs, and McNabb is considered a top 5 NFL QB. He's a good QB that can make plays, but he should never be considered one of the best in the league. He's getting paid like he's one of the best, but he's not performing like he's one of the best. Therefore... He's overrated.

Sorry, but who, other than Brady and Manning are better than him? Just because you win a SB does not make you a better QB.

He is definitely a top 5 QB.

 

[Apollo Creed]

To quote Terrell Owens...

"If Brett Favre was our quarterback we'd be undefeated right now."

 

[Dale]

My opinion on McNabb is this.

He's one of the league's top quarterbacks. There aren't many that are truly better. But, yes, he's horrible under pressure in the postseason. However, there are probably 22 quarterbacks that couldn't even get their team into the playoffs as far as McNabb can, even with the same talent. So you sometimes have to take the good with the bad. He can get you there, but so far, hasn't shown the ability to take you all the way.

As for TO, he handpicked going to Philadelphia. I believe, in part, because of McNabb. All he had to do was watch film of how the Eagles' last three seasons ended to come to the realiziation that McNabb may have some problems under pressure. So, no, I don't believe he had any right to criticize McNabb, especially given all the hell he gave Baltimore to go to Philly. I don't like when any players publicly criticize others, much less TO in that situation.

There's a reason why TO has a poor reputation right now. It's well deserved. As I've said, surprisingly, I'm in favor of giving him a shot here. I have enough faith in Bledsoe and Parcells that we have the support system of mentally tough individuals at the core positions not to allow TO to eat this team apart -- at least not for a year or two (yeah, I know, great reassurance ). But there's no need to justify his past behavior. If he acts that way here, if we sign him, he'll deservedly be considered a colossal bust. You just cannot act that way in a professional setting without ramifications.

 

[TheSport78]

i love mcnabb especially in the postseason. he's so fun to watch in postseason play because you know what's coming. you know the annual "letdown" is going to occur. what a joke he is. the thing he said last year that really ticked me off was after we blew the eagles out 33-10...i remember him saying something like "i still think we're the best team in the NFC" what a slap in the face to the cowboys..not giving credit where credit is due. he represents the city of philadelphia as a whole..a LOSING franchise and a LOSING town that will never win the big one. thanks mcnabb you're the best player on our team!

:laugh2:

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

T.O. is the player.

McNabb is the choker.

T.O. is the talker.

I would rather be "talker" than a "choker"

 

[Phoenix-Talon]

One of the benefits of having opponent fans on any MB is to obtain a different perspective about a thread's subject matter that wouldn't ordinarily have been pointed out among fans from the same franchise.

Just for a minute, lets explore what it would be like if all MB were closed to opponent fans and their perspective comments. I know ...let's use your thread as an example ...

________________McNabb terribly overrated____________________

Let's take a look at the purpose of the subject titled thread:

1) Obviously an attempt to show that McNabb is not a top QB in the NFL; he chokes during big plays, throws Multiple interceptions, and gets injured when his team needs him most. This is really a bad guy that many believe is a good guy.

2) Since the thread's author just arrived, he may want to obtain some notoriety by selecting a subject that no loyal Cowboy fan would defend; and why should they. So while most are concerned about FA selections, and an upcoming Draft, I'll just slip in below the radar screen with an unwarranted attack at perhaps someone I've never liked, even before the interceptions.

Back to reality ...

Many Eagle fans I know will tell you that they aren't happy about several mistakes made by the 30 year old QB that's been in the NFL for 7 years. He thinks he's so tough by playing when he's injured; even at the risk of hurting himself more; attempts to make tackles knowing that he needs critical surgery. Who does this guy think he is, by having so much fun and fire in his heart to win for his team and set the example!?

enter the Talon!

Let's flash back a few years in Eagle history....

In 2001 against Tampa Bay in the NFC championship game ...
In 2002 against St. Louis in the NFC championship game ...
In 2003 against Carolina in the NFC championship game ...
In 2004 against New England in the Super Bowl ...

In 2005 interception to Roy Williams to give Dallas the win ...his season ended on that play. So who is the bad guy in Philly... Donovan?
You decide

One very hypothetical question (that I'm sure I know what your answer would be) ... If McNabb wasn't injured and played for the Dallas Cowboys, would you think he was overrated if he led the COwboys to 3 NFC Champions in consecutive year, and a Superbowl appearance that very next year?

You decide.

 

[Eddie]

You guys crack me up. Here we have a Pro Bowl QB ... and you kindergarteners are calling in overrated. He's been to 4 NFC CG's and 1 Super Bowl, yet, he's over-rated. Amazing!!!

If he was a Cowboy, he'd be the greatest thing since sliced bread. The reason you guys hate him so much is because he has something like a 15-2 record against us. So in order to ease your pain, you demonize him.

Get over it. He's an excellent NFL QB. He's a class act and one of the primier QB's in the league. Not counting your childish jealouses of the guy.

Heck, as along as anyone is NOT wearing a Cowboys uniform ... they suck.

How first grade !!!

 

[Phoenix-Talon]

You guys crack me up. Here we have a Pro Bowl QB ... and you kindergarteners are calling in overrated. He's been to 4 NFC CG's and 1 Super Bowl, yet, he's over-rated. Amazing!!!

If he was a Cowboy, he'd be the greatest thing since sliced bread. The reason you guys hate him so much is because he has something like a 15-2 record against us. So in order to ease your pain, you demonize him.

Get over it. He's an excellent NFL QB. He's a class act and one of the primier QB's in the league. Not counting your childish jealouses of the guy.

Heck, as along as anyone is NOT wearing a Cowboys uniform ... they suck.

How first grade !!!

I appreciate those words Eddie.

 

[Doomsday101]

You guys crack me up. Here we have a Pro Bowl QB ... and you kindergarteners are calling in overrated. He's been to 4 NFC CG's and 1 Super Bowl, yet, he's over-rated. Amazing!!!

If he was a Cowboy, he'd be the greatest thing since sliced bread. The reason you guys hate him so much is because he has something like a 15-2 record against us. So in order to ease your pain, you demonize him.

Get over it. He's an excellent NFL QB. He's a class act and one of the primier QB's in the league. Not counting your childish jealouses of the guy.

Heck, as along as anyone is NOT wearing a Cowboys uniform ... they suck.

How first grade !!!

Tell that to Danny White. He took the team to the NFC Championship game but because we never won the SB with him Danny took a lot of heat from the Dallas fans.

 

[Phoenix-Talon]

Tell that to Danny White. He took the team to the NFC Championship game but because we never won the SB with him Danny took a lot of heat from the Dallas fans.

But would you say that Danny White was overrated -- I never thought he was.

 

[Apollo Creed]

You guys are right... McNabb is great, it's just an accident that he's throw a pick to end each season.

 

[NorTex]

You guys crack me up. Here we have a Pro Bowl QB ... and you kindergarteners are calling in overrated.

The Pro Bowl is a joke...Mike Vick and Jake Delhomme made the Pro Bowl...it means nothing.