McNabb

[Chuck 54]

I know it was only the Lions today, and they're only 3-0, long ways to go, but I have to say that the silly homers who tried to convince the gullable that McNabb is not a great QB, despite his runner-up MVP season and getting his team to the Championship game 3 times without a decent WR, were watching today....He's a GREAT QB. Aikman was great due to accuracy but sucked when it came to avoiding the rush or throwing the deep ball. McNabb is a great QB whether his completion percentage stays above 60% or not...he was a one man show, and now he's got a WR and a double threat at RB, not to mention a defense that is still pretty decent.

My money is clearly on Philly vs. NE in the Super Bowl....NE cementing their place as a modern dynasty.

 

[TheDuke]

right now that's the way it looks like it's gonna end up. who knows though it's along season.

 

[Tuna Helper]

I know it was only the Lions today, and they're only 3-0, long ways to go, but I have to say that the silly homers who tried to convince the gullable that McNabb is not a great QB, despite his runner-up MVP season and getting his team to the Championship game 3 times without a decent WR, were watching today....He's a GREAT QB. Aikman was great due to accuracy but sucked when it came to avoiding the rush or throwing the deep ball. McNabb is a great QB whether his completion percentage stays above 60% or not...he was a one man show, and now he's got a WR and a double threat at RB, not to mention a defense that is still pretty decent.

My money is clearly on Philly vs. NE in the Super Bowl....NE cementing their place as a modern dynasty.

Does this season surprise you?

Except last year, Philly has had strong starts 3 of the last 4 years. If you would have put your money on Philly back then, you would have lost it.

I'm not saying that they can't make it to the big show. All I'm saying is that it is too soon to tell.

No one else in the NFC stands out right now to contend with Philly. Sounds a lot like 2002 when the Bucs suddenly made a run and stepped on Philly to get to the Super Bowl.

I'm not sold on McNabb in big games just yet. Yeah, he beat the Lions, the Giants, and Minny (in HIS house), but so what?

If the Minny game was played in the Metrodome, Philly would have lost.

 

[Wolverine]

And in those 3 games McNabb has not faced a defense that is any good at all.

 

[Chuck 54]

Does this season surprise you?

Except last year, Philly has had strong starts 3 of the last 4 years. If you would have put your money on Philly back then, you would have lost it.

I'm not saying that they can't make it to the big show. All I'm saying is that it is too soon to tell.

No one else in the NFC stands out right now to contend with Philly. Sounds a lot like 2002 when the Bucs suddenly made a run and stepped on Philly to get to the Super Bowl.

I'm not sold on McNabb in big games just yet. Yeah, he beat the Lions, the Giants, and Minny (in HIS house), but so what?

If the Minny game was played in the Metrodome, Philly would have lost.

No one is sold on Peyton Manning in big games yet either, but no one seems to argue that he's a bad QB....Given my choice of either guy, I'm not sure who I'd take...McNabb is a talent...this summer guys were trying to argue that he was no better than CArter!!!!

 

[jcollins28]

Is there not an Eagles board on the net for you to post this? I could care less about McNabb or the Eagles. I predict they will choke in the end like they always do.

 

[Natedawg44]

Peyton Manning Blah Blah Blah
Donovan McNafro Blah Blah Blah

In the the end what have either of them won.

Nothing, Zip, Zilch, NADA

Nothing in College
Nothing so far in the NFL

NOTHING

When playing for all of the marbles

Id rather have Brady
Id rather have Farve

 

[Rude]

You guys are such homers. Had vinny or Henson be playing how Mcnabb plays at the moment or even in the last few years, you all would be screaming about our "franchise QB"

That reminds me, funny how people here assume Henson is a franchise QB yet he has yet to play an NFL game, but Mcnabb who is a pro bowler is just "average at best"

By the way im I huge Cowboy fan like the rest of you, but come on already the man has talent

 

[MrCharlie007]

Not so fast....

Fullback Ritchie - Injured..

Mayberry = possible torn bicep..may be out quite awhile - MRI scheduled

TE LJSmith - Injured...status is uncertain.

they keep getting injuries like this and they wont go too far.

 

[Etonicas]

My money is clearly on Philly vs. NE in the Super Bowl....NE cementing their place as a modern dynasty.

They very well may end up at the SB, but it's still early and the games still have to be played, no matter how good either team looks. No one is just going to give them a clean run to the SB.

 

[LaTunaNostra]

I know it was only the Lions today, and they're only 3-0, long ways to go, but I have to say that the silly homers who tried to convince the gullable that McNabb is not a great QB, despite his runner-up MVP season and getting his team to the Championship game 3 times without a decent WR, were watching today....He's a GREAT QB. Aikman was great due to accuracy but sucked when it came to avoiding the rush or throwing the deep ball. McNabb is a great QB whether his completion percentage stays above 60% or not...he was a one man show, and now he's got a WR and a double threat at RB, not to mention a defense that is still pretty decent.

My money is clearly on Philly vs. NE in the Super Bowl....NE cementing their place as a modern dynasty.

Wayne, I've considered McNabb one of the few true franchise QBs for several years - and like Farve, one of those who you could hope to actually win games for you on his own. Despite his pass completion ranking at any given time, bad times (like early last year) or good, he's a top five QB. Once the "Aikman" ranking formula takes over, what McNabb really is and means to his offense will be clear.

But even with Owens there now, even with these three solid outings, I think some other team is going to sneak up and steal Philly's thunder. They are a solid team on both sides of the ball, but lack the stamp of greatness.

To see them go 12-4 and then lose in their first playoff game to a Green Bay or even an Altlanta on a strong outing would not surprise me. What it is they lack I can't quite say, but the great ones all had an identity and a savoire faire I dont see in the Eagles - a team that has never shown it can come back from its own mistakes when it really counts. I think that while they are well coached and more than the sum of their parts, they are not a transcendental team like the Patriots.

Some teams you respect, but don't really fear. Philly is one of them. For me, anyway.

 

[Tuna Helper]

Wayne, I've considered McNabb one of the few true franchise QBs for several years - and like Farve, one of those who you could hope to actually win games for you on his own. Despite his pass completion ranking at any given time, bad times (like early last year) or good, he's a top five QB. Once the "Aikman" ranking formula takes over, what McNabb really is and means to his offense will be clear.

But even with Owens there now, even with these three solid outings, I think some other team is going to sneak up and steal Philly's thunder. They are a solid team on both sides of the ball, but lack the stamp of greatness.

To see them go 12-4 and then lose in their first playoff game to a Green Bay or even an Altlanta on a strong outing would not surprise me. What it is they lack I can't quite say, but the great ones all had an identity and a savoire faire I dont see in the Eagles - a team that has never shown it can come back from its own mistakes when it really counts. I think that while they are well coached and more than the sum of their parts, they are not a transcendental team like the Patriots.

Some teams you respect, but don't really fear. Philly is one of them. For me, anyway.

I think you summed up my feelings 100%. Great post!

 

[dbair1967]

I know it was only the Lions today, and they're only 3-0, long ways to go, but I have to say that the silly homers who tried to convince the gullable that McNabb is not a great QB, despite his runner-up MVP season and getting his team to the Championship game 3 times without a decent WR, were watching today....He's a GREAT QB. Aikman was great due to accuracy but sucked when it came to avoiding the rush or throwing the deep ball. McNabb is a great QB whether his completion percentage stays above 60% or not...he was a one man show, and now he's got a WR and a double threat at RB, not to mention a defense that is still pretty decent.

My money is clearly on Philly vs. NE in the Super Bowl....NE cementing their place as a modern dynasty.

easy with the Aikman comparisons...Aikman was a FAR superior passer to McNabb and won 3 championships...he played realyl solid in the regular seasons and then boosted his game several levels in the postseason...

I'll take that bet of your's and probably take your money

David

 

[LaTunaNostra]

I think you summed up my feelings 100%. Great post!

Thanks, tho I realize because I can't put my finger on any specific fatal flaws of that team, my whole take sounds like wishful thinking. It might be depth, it might be the quality of the runners by commitee, it might be that too often it HAS fallen on Donovan, it might be how even a good wco can dink and dunk its way out of a playoff game, it might be good, solid but not great coaching, and it might be just the ho hum feeling you get watching that team, no matter how substantially it might win an individual game.

But it's not special, not in talent, not in esprit de corps, not in innovation, not in fierce competitiveness, not in "team".

It's a strong entry in a crop diluted by parity - it's the best that mediocrity seems to be offering this year.

But I would not put my money on the Philadelphia Eagles to go all the way. The team they beat at home last week impresses me more overall.

 

[Cheap Shot Artist]

Thanks, tho I realize because I can't put my finger on any specific fatal flaws of that team, my whole take sounds like wishful thinking. It might be depth, it might be the quality of the runners by commitee, it might be that too often it HAS fallen on Donovan, it might be how even a good wco can dink and dunk its way out of a playoff game, it might be good, solid but not great coaching, and it might be just the ho hum feeling you get watching that team, no matter how substantially it might win an individual game.

But it's not special, not in talent, not in esprit de corps, not in innovation, not in fierce competitiveness, not in "team".

It's a strong entry in a crop diluted by parity - it's the best that mediocrity seems to be offering this year.

But I would not put my money on the Philadelphia Eagles to go all the way. The team they beat at home last week impresses me more overall.

Well if Westbrook gets injured, even more of the load falls on #5's shoulders

Philly uses all 3 of it's TE's (Bartrum, Smith and Lewis) 3 of its WR's in TO, Pinkston and Mitchell and RB Westbrook

Their DL is a legit 8 deep with Kearse, Walker, Simon, Burgess, Douglas, Thomas, McDougle and Rayburn

They are loaded...their CB's which were thought to be a liability havent been, but, in fairness their DL can bring the heat

They are the class of the NFC right now

 

[Dallas]

I know it was only the Lions today, and they're only 3-0, long ways to go, but I have to say that the silly homers who tried to convince the gullable that McNabb is not a great QB, despite his runner-up MVP season and getting his team to the Championship game 3 times without a decent WR, were watching today....He's a GREAT QB. Aikman was great due to accuracy but sucked when it came to avoiding the rush or throwing the deep ball. McNabb is a great QB whether his completion percentage stays above 60% or not...he was a one man show, and now he's got a WR and a double threat at RB, not to mention a defense that is still pretty decent.

My money is clearly on Philly vs. NE in the Super Bowl....NE cementing their place as a modern dynasty.

McNabb better thank his lucky stars the Colts are in the AFC. Payton Manning is on a mission. 5 TD's before the half. Now THAT is a great QB.

 

[Chuck 54]

Peyton Manning Blah Blah Blah
Donovan McNafro Blah Blah Blah

In the the end what have either of them won.

Nothing, Zip, Zilch, NADA

Nothing in College
Nothing so far in the NFL

NOTHING

When playing for all of the marbles

Id rather have Brady
Id rather have Farve

Well, who wouldn't....but....Don Meredyth and Danny White never won anything either, but they were great Cowboy QB's....plenty of great players don't win championships.

 

[Chuck 54]

Not so fast....

Fullback Ritchie - Injured..

Mayberry = possible torn bicep..may be out quite awhile - MRI scheduled

TE LJSmith - Injured...status is uncertain.

they keep getting injuries like this and they wont go too far.

And I'd love nothing more than to see them totally collapse and not even make the playoffs...lol...I sure don't want to see any team in the NFC East get to the Super Bowl but the Cowboys....I just think Philly is the team right now, but I hope they don't.

I have hated them forever, but it deepened when I was leaving Veteran stadium after another Buddy Ryan team had just whipped my Boys' butts badly and were taking a knee to kill the clock.

When I got to my car, I heard the radio announcers talking about the fake kneel down and the long bomb for a TD....Since then, all bets are off, I even enjoy injuries, though I have to pray for forgiveness on that one

 

[Chuck 54]

Wayne, I've considered McNabb one of the few true franchise QBs for several years - and like Farve, one of those who you could hope to actually win games for you on his own. Despite his pass completion ranking at any given time, bad times (like early last year) or good, he's a top five QB. Once the "Aikman" ranking formula takes over, what McNabb really is and means to his offense will be clear.

But even with Owens there now, even with these three solid outings, I think some other team is going to sneak up and steal Philly's thunder. They are a solid team on both sides of the ball, but lack the stamp of greatness.

To see them go 12-4 and then lose in their first playoff game to a Green Bay or even an Altlanta on a strong outing would not surprise me. What it is they lack I can't quite say, but the great ones all had an identity and a savoire faire I dont see in the Eagles - a team that has never shown it can come back from its own mistakes when it really counts. I think that while they are well coached and more than the sum of their parts, they are not a transcendental team like the Patriots.

Some teams you respect, but don't really fear. Philly is one of them. For me, anyway.

See, I learned to fear them, but never to respect them...hehehe...but i know what you mean by "respect"

 

[AJM1613]

Ritchie, Smith and Mayberry all seem to be okay, but Mayberry's injury could be serious. Smith has a rotator cuff injury and Richie has a hurt knee.

All of them will most likely play next week, if not, they will have an extra week off because of the bye. We're not playing a "good" team next week so I think it would be okay for them to rest. The Bears are so banged up, Grossman had a sprained knee today and their secondary is all hurt (Brown, Tillman, Azumah). Rex Tucker is also out. John Quinn as their starting QB? Now Urlacher isn't playing?

Here's a stat for you:

All three of the teams we played are 2-1, meaning they are 6-0 against other teams.