McShay: Draft Tiers 3/30/20

[darthseinfeld]

Zero chance kinlaw goes first

He might not if teams are really worried about his knee. However I think Kinlaw is a more complete pass rusher, and I think that will get drafted over Brown

 

[Montanalo]

A few observations from McShay's draft tiers:

• Despite a tier 4 rank, I might expect QB's Love and Hebert to be drafted in the top 15.
• Since pre-Combine, DE ends appear to be dropping and DT rising in the current rankings.
• WR or OT might be the BPA at 17.
• A trade down might of 5-10 places in the first, might offer the best opportunity to grab value at DE, S, CB and WR in the first 3 rounds.

 

[Landryhat73]

In my opinion if these players are gone you trade down.
Wr - Jeudy, Lamb, Ruggs
Dt - Kinlaw
De - Chaisson
Cb - Henderson

If the draft plays out like this most likely a QB is still available. Could see Dallas trading down for an extra 3rd.

 

[Londonboy]

Cool, that's My prep work for the McShay invitational done.
Thanks Risen.

 

[Risen Star]

In my opinion if these players are gone you trade down.
Wr - Jeudy, Lamb, Ruggs
Dt - Kinlaw
De - Chaisson
Cb - Henderson

If the draft plays out like this most likely a QB is still available. Could see Dallas trading down for an extra 3rd.

I would have stopped with the first four.

 

[visionary]

A few observations from McShay's draft tiers:

• Despite a tier 4 rank, I might expect QB's Love and Hebert to be drafted in the top 15.
• Since pre-Combine, DE ends appear to be dropping and DT rising in the current rankings.
• WR or OT might be the BPA at 17.
• A trade down might of 5-10 places in the first, might offer the best opportunity to grab value at DE, S, CB and WR in the first 3 rounds.

agree
If Kinlaw is gone I’d love to trade down to 20-25 range and get an extra rd 2 pick
There is a lot of value in rds 2-3

 

[HawaiiCowboy]

This is the perfect thread to post this. I wanted to start a thread on this but since I'm a new poster, I can't.

I think most mock drafts have these players in front of us.

QB - Burrows, Tagavailoa, Herbert,
WR - Jeudy, Lamb
OT - Thomas, Wirfs, Becton, Wills
DE - Young, Chaisson
DT - Brown, Kinlaw
LB - Simmons
CB - Okudah

Wildcards are Love, Ruggs, CJ Henderson

Do you think there will be a surprise player other than this to get drafted before us? We could pounce on one of these players that falls to us. I'm hoping either Jeudy, Lamb or Kinlaw to fall to us. Really want Love to go before us. If not, Henderson might get picked and not sure who we pick then. Ruggs would be BPA maybe but a lot of mocks have Xavier McKinney if it falls that way. Not sure how happy I would be with that.

Of course, there are many times the player we really want falls to us and we take a player out of left field. I mean the experts draft boards must look somewhat different than all the NFL teams draft boards. Too bad we can't see every teams draft boards after the draft to evaluate where the players ranked with the NFL teams.

 

[ThatJerryKid]

Clink the link for commentary. (ESPN Insider)

https://www.espn.com/nfl/draft2020/...rankings-todd-mcshay-highest-graded-prospects


Tier 1: Young all alone
Grades of 95 or higher. Elite prospects. Should be immediate NFL starters and project as perennial All-Pro players. Worthy of a top-five pick most years. I had two players in this tier in 2019.

1. Chase Young, DE, Ohio State (95)

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Tier 2: 10 prospects
Grades between 92 and 94. A notch below the elite class but still considered a plug-and-play NFL starter with high-level potential. Worthy of a top-15 pick most years. I had seven players in this tier in 2019.

2. Joe Burrow, QB, LSU (94)
3. Derrick Brown, DT, Auburn (94)
4. Jerry Jeudy, WR, Alabama (94)
5. Jeff Okudah, CB, Ohio State (94)
6. Isaiah Simmons, OLB, Clemson (94)
7. Tua Tagovailoa, QB, Alabama (93)
8. Tristan Wirfs, OT, Iowa (93)
9. CeeDee Lamb, WR, Oklahoma (92)
10. Mekhi Becton, OT, Louisville (92)
11. Henry Ruggs III, WR, Alabama (92)

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Tier 3: 10 prospects
Grades between 90 and 91. Good NFL starters and are considered strong values in the bottom half of Round 1 in any given draft class. I had eight players in this tier in 2019.

12. Jedrick Wills Jr., OT, Alabama (91)
13. D'Andre Swift, RB, Georgia (91)
14. Xavier McKinney, S, Alabama (91)
15. Javon Kinlaw, DT, South Carolina (91)
16. CJ Henderson, CB, Florida (91)
17. Justin Jefferson, WR, LSU (91)
18. Andrew Thomas, OT, Georgia (90)
19. Brandon Aiyuk, WR, Arizona State (90)
20. Patrick Queen, ILB, LSU (90)
21. Ross Blacklock, DT, TCU (90)

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Tier 4: 22 prospects
Grades between 85 and 89. Good future NFL starters. Second-round value. I had 28 players in this tier in 2019.

22. Jordan Love, QB, Utah State (89)
23. J.K. Dobbins, RB, Ohio State (89)
24. K'Lavon Chaisson, DE, LSU (89)
25. Justin Herbert, QB, Oregon (89)
26. A.J. Epenesa, DE, Iowa (89)
27. Kenneth Murray, ILB, Oklahoma (88)
28. Jonathan Taylor, RB, Wisconsin (88)
29. Josh Jones, OT, Houston (88)
30. Grant Delpit, S, LSU (88)
31. Antoine Winfield Jr., S, Minnesota (87)
32. Clyde Edwards-Helaire, RB, LSU (87)
33. Yetur Gross-Matos, DE, Penn State (87)
34. Tee Higgins, WR, Clemson (87)
35. Austin Jackson, OT, USC (86)
36. Cesar Ruiz, C, Michigan (86)
37. Zack Baun, OLB, Wisconsin (86)
38. Trevon Diggs, CB, Alabama (86)
39. Michael Pittman Jr., WR, USC (86)
40. Justin Madubuike, DT, Texas A&M (86)
41. Neville Gallimore, DT, Oklahoma (85)
42. Cole Kmet, TE, Notre Dame (85)
43. Damon Arnette, CB, Ohio State (85)

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Tier 5: 19 prospects
Grades between 80 and 84. Future solid to good NFL starters but might need to serve in substitution package/situational roles early in career. Mid- to late-second-round value. I had 19 players in this tier in 2019.

44. Kristian Fulton, CB, LSU (84)
45. Cam Akers, RB, Florida State (84)
46. Jeremy Chinn, S, Southern Illinois (84)
47. Jordan Elliott, DT, Missouri (84)
48. Marlon Davidson, DE, Auburn (84)
49. Josh Uche, DE, Michigan (83)
50. Laviska Shenault Jr., WR, Colorado (83)
51. A.J. Terrell, CB, Clemson (83)
52. Jalen Reagor, WR, TCU (83)
53. Zack Moss, RB, Utah (83)
54. Denzel Mims, WR, Baylor (82)
55. Jaylon Johnson, CB, Utah (82)
56. Jeff Gladney, CB, TCU (82)
57. Jake Fromm, QB, Georgia (82)
58. Tyler Biadasz, C, Wisconsin (81)
59. Terrell Lewis, OLB, Alabama (81)
60. Jacob Eason, QB, Washington (81)
61. Jason Strowbridge, DT, North Carolina (80)
62. Albert Okwuegbunam, TE, Missouri (80)

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Tier 6: 37 prospects
Grades between 70 and 79. Project as future solid starters but need time to develop, have limited upside or come with baggage. Third-round value. I had 53 players in this tier in 2019.

63. Raekwon Davis, DT, Alabama (79)
64. Netane Muti, G, Fresno State (79)
65. Isaiah Wilson, OT, Georgia (79)
66. AJ Dillon, RB, Boston College (79)
67. Jared Pinkney, TE, Vanderbilt (79)
68. Devin Duvernay, WR, Texas (79)
69. Bryce Hall, CB, Virginia (78)
70. Bradlee Anae, DE, Utah (78)
71. Anfernee Jennings, OLB, Alabama (78)
72. Hunter Bryant, TE, Washington (78)
73. Noah Igbinoghene, CB, Auburn (77)
74. Harrison Bryant, TE, Florida Atlantic (77)
75. KJ Hamler, WR, Penn State (77)
76. Julian Okwara, DE, Notre Dame (76)
77. Ashtyn Davis, S, California (76)
78. Trey Adams, OT, Washington (76)
79. Antonio Gandy-Golden, WR, Liberty (76)
80. Cameron Dantzler, CB, Mississippi State (75)
81. Curtis Weaver, DE, Boise State (75)
82. Akeem Davis-Gaither, OLB, Appalachian State (75)
83. Prince Tega Wanogho, OT, Auburn (75)
84. Adam Trautman, TE, Dayton (75)
85. Kyle Dugger, S, Lenoir-Rhyne (74)
86. Saahdiq Charles, OT, LSU (74)
87. Malik Harrison, OLB, Ohio State (73)
88. Colby Parkinson, TE, Stanford (73)
89. Troy Pride Jr., CB, Notre Dame (72)
90. K.J. Hill, WR, Ohio State (72)
91. James Lynch, DE, Baylor (71)
92. Ke'Shawn Vaughn, RB, Vanderbilt (71)
93. Collin Johnson, WR, Texas (71)
94. Logan Wilson, ILB, Wyoming (70)
95. Keith Ismael, C, San Diego State (70)
96. John Simpson, G, Clemson (70)
97. Jalen Hurts, QB, Oklahoma (70)
98. Anthony McFarland Jr., RB, Maryland (70)
99. Donovan Peoples-Jones, WR, Michigan (70)

Well this seems obvious. Trade up to #1 and get Young.

 

[Creeper]

What is Blacklock doing in the top 21?

 

[Risen Star]

What is Blacklock doing in the top 21?

Jeremiah has him 19th.

 

[HawaiiCowboy]

I think we're lucky we sit at 17. There are 17 players I like so we're guaranteed to get one of them. I think that's where the cutoff is. If we had pick #18 and all the players below got picked, not sure who I would want. Probably Xavier McKinney.

QB - Burrows, Tagavailoa, Herbert,
WR - Jeudy, Lamb, Ruggs
OT - Thomas, Wirfs, Becton, Wills
DE - Young, Chaisson
DT - Brown, Kinlaw
LB - Simmons
CB - Okudah, Henderson

 

[HawaiiCowboy]

Because of my post above, I would not trade down if a team wanted to come up looking for QB Love or a WR. Stand pat.