Meandering through a euphoric haze of doubt

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Didn't expect this type of season at all so I'm just riding the wave. Yes the defense scares me but the Boys are already past or equal to the predicted win total of many on this board before the season started, so anything from here on out is a bonus. I haven't felt this type of stress in years and i love it!
 

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Allowing 2 huge plays defeats bend don't break. We're fortunate Wash is an embarrassing red zone team. Well, we'd have won anyway but it would have been even more harrowing.

I agree, but you would have more big plays if you blitzed!
 

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We're the best team in the NFC this year, I don't have much doubt. But there are teams that can take us out, for sure. I'm not counting on anything more than a playoff berth right now.
 
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I think some of the "NFL being down" is an illusion brought on by the recently good teams falling behind the recently bad teams. The NFL has been crowning flawed SuperBowl champs (like Denver) for many years now since FA and the CBA took effect.
 

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I think some of the "NFL being down" is an illusion brought on by the recently good teams falling behind the recently bad teams. The NFL has been crowning flawed SuperBowl champs (like Denver) for many years now since FA and the CBA took effect.

I agree with this 100%. I think we are seeing a major changing of the guard throughout the entire NFL. Some of the star players (especially QBs) I've watched over the last 10-ish years are retiring, getting up there in age, or in Dallas's case sitting on the bench. Some of the powerhouse teams we are used to seeing are starting to recede.

Now, it's finally Dallas's time to rise from the ashes of mediocrity and slay the mighty beast and become the new model of intimidation that haunts the NFL in it's every waking moment.
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My football logic antenna tells me that by the time Dallas walks off the field in New York, the Cowboys will be 12-1, and the Giants will be 8-5. The Steelers and Cowboys are about to pop that cystic zit in The Meadowlands.

That would pretty much put to bed the division, a first-round bye, and home-field advantage in the playoffs. Tony Romo and the second string will take the field in Philly before a wild-card bye. I said, Tony Romo and the second string will take the field in Philly before the wild-card bye. I just wrote that without laughing...


Erod, I appreciate the time and craft and color that you bring to the community. Well done!

A few thoughts:

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If Romo plays at all he won't be thrown in with anything but the finest Cowboy players surrounding him. Jerry and Jason would never thrust their friend Tony into a situation where he would look poorly. They will want him to look his very best in order to trade him--and they certainly wouldn't want in a situation that could easily bring injury, failure or humiliation.

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We can beat any team right now...but could also lose to a number of teams. In the NFC Seattle, Tampa Bay, Atlanta, New York, Philly, Washington, Detroit, Minnesota, New Orleans are all capable of throwing together a game that could best us. We are Achilles...the mighty warrior with a fatal flaw...a glaring vulnerability.
 

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I agree, this defense is just not good enough. However, there is no team perfect enough to be favoured over Dallas so this team's chances are as good as anyone's at this point.
Perfect example is the aforementioned Falcons, yes Dallas' defense would get shredded by Atlanta, however on the flip side Atlanta aren't particularly good at stopping anyone so good luck with Dallas' offense.
 

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If the 2014 team could almost do it with basically the same offensive production but a sub par defense, this group can. And Zeke brings the big play potential up a notch too.

Just take one play in 2014 vs Green Bay; Murray running through a truck-sized hole but allowing Peppers to reach in and strip him.
Now insert Zeke. That's a TD and not a turnover.
Game over.
 
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My football logic antenna tells me that by the time Dallas walks off the field in New York, the Cowboys will be 12-1, and the Giants will be 8-5. The Steelers and Cowboys are about to pop that cystic zit in The Meadowlands.

That would pretty much put to bed the division, a first-round bye, and home-field advantage in the playoffs. Tony Romo and the second string will take the field in Philly before a wild-card bye. I said, Tony Romo and the second string will take the field in Philly before the wild-card bye. I just wrote that without laughing.

So why am I so fidgety?

This impossible year, cloaked in rookie messiahs and defensive nobodies, marches onward through the NFL season virtually unblemished. Meanwhile, awful football pervades throughout the rest of a league wrought with sloppy teams. The Panthers, Packers, Cardinals, Steelers, Ravens, Bengals, Broncos.....the supposedly elite teams are anything but.

The almighty Seahawks, whom we are supposed to fear, scored a whole 3 points on offense yesterday against the ding-dong Buccanneers and their 80s hair-band uniforms.

The NFL is just bad. The party-all-you-want CBA has ripped the quality from it. Almost everywhere, that is, but here in RKG land, thanks to Coach Garrett and our soothsayer, Will McClay.

So, again, why my pessimism about where this thing lands come playoff time? Perhaps it's just the 20 years of crotch-kicking I've endured. The post-90s crash-and-burns of ill-conceived rosters around here are legendary. Why can't I shake the funk?

My leeriness, like many of yours, lies within this time-bomb defense. Let's not kid ourselves, it's bad, and even worse, it's increasingly hurt and gimpy, and that spells trouble come playoff time. The Cowboys haven't forced a turnover in a month and don't put pressure on the QB ever. Yes, they play with fire and Rod Marinelli is a defensive prophet, but that voodoo only goes so far come the knockout round.

I know, points-per-game, yadda, yadda. Offensive ineptitude doesn't equal good defense. I watch all the games every Sunday. Offense is putrid across the NFL this year.

My team of concern is Atlanta and what it might do to this defense. Matt Ryan with an all-day vacation in the pocket and countless receivers.....yeesh. Never mind what Tom Brady would carve this group into in a Super Bowl, lest we get that far.

Understand, I'm only talking about the here and now. The future looks dominant. DOMINANT! I couldn't be happier with where this franchise is right now.

The rookie phenoms continue to protect the ball, and the offensive line is mowing down good fronts like dallisgrass. So Dallas continues to win methodically and demonstrably against flawed foes, and the entire NFC shudders of what a good defensive offseason for the Cowboys means going forward. It could be lights out for a good while.

Yes, I realize how preposterous this is. Greed is overcoming my logic here, I know full well. Just enjoy the damn ride, Erod, you ungrateful nincompoop. Sorry, can't help it.

I'm just trying to figure out if this is 1991 or 1992. I'd prefer the latter. You long-timers know what I mean.
I'm thinking it's more like 2007. I hate when we have to play a divisional rival a 3rd time. But I agree with most especially our defensive ineptness potential in the playoffs ...with one caution .

We still have some football left . If we don't beat the Vikings then the Giants could be for the division.

And what the effects could be if we hit a bump in the road with this now our toughest stretch ( not earlier like we originally thought as those teams slumped) with remaining 5 games against non losing record teams and 4 of them potential playoff teams fighting for a spot.

We aren't home free yet. There's still some football left if we want the division and home field .
 
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My football logic antenna tells me that by the time Dallas walks off the field in New York, the Cowboys will be 12-1, and the Giants will be 8-5. The Steelers and Cowboys are about to pop that cystic zit in The Meadowlands.

That would pretty much put to bed the division, a first-round bye, and home-field advantage in the playoffs. Tony Romo and the second string will take the field in Philly before a wild-card bye. I said, Tony Romo and the second string will take the field in Philly before the wild-card bye. I just wrote that without laughing.

So why am I so fidgety?

This impossible year, cloaked in rookie messiahs and defensive nobodies, marches onward through the NFL season virtually unblemished. Meanwhile, awful football pervades throughout the rest of a league wrought with sloppy teams. The Panthers, Packers, Cardinals, Steelers, Ravens, Bengals, Broncos.....the supposedly elite teams are anything but.

The almighty Seahawks, whom we are supposed to fear, scored a whole 3 points on offense yesterday against the ding-dong Buccanneers and their 80s hair-band uniforms.

The NFL is just bad. The party-all-you-want CBA has ripped the quality from it. Almost everywhere, that is, but here in RKG land, thanks to Coach Garrett and our soothsayer, Will McClay.

So, again, why my pessimism about where this thing lands come playoff time? Perhaps it's just the 20 years of crotch-kicking I've endured. The post-90s crash-and-burns of ill-conceived rosters around here are legendary. Why can't I shake the funk?

My leeriness, like many of yours, lies within this time-bomb defense. Let's not kid ourselves, it's bad, and even worse, it's increasingly hurt and gimpy, and that spells trouble come playoff time. The Cowboys haven't forced a turnover in a month and don't put pressure on the QB ever. Yes, they play with fire and Rod Marinelli is a defensive prophet, but that voodoo only goes so far come the knockout round.

I know, points-per-game, yadda, yadda. Offensive ineptitude doesn't equal good defense. I watch all the games every Sunday. Offense is putrid across the NFL this year.

My team of concern is Atlanta and what it might do to this defense. Matt Ryan with an all-day vacation in the pocket and countless receivers.....yeesh. Never mind what Tom Brady would carve this group into in a Super Bowl, lest we get that far.

Understand, I'm only talking about the here and now. The future looks dominant. DOMINANT! I couldn't be happier with where this franchise is right now.

The rookie phenoms continue to protect the ball, and the offensive line is mowing down good fronts like dallisgrass. So Dallas continues to win methodically and demonstrably against flawed foes, and the entire NFC shudders of what a good defensive offseason for the Cowboys means going forward. It could be lights out for a good while.

Yes, I realize how preposterous this is. Greed is overcoming my logic here, I know full well. Just enjoy the damn ride, Erod, you ungrateful nincompoop. Sorry, can't help it.

I'm just trying to figure out if this is 1991 or 1992. I'd prefer the latter. You long-timers know what I mean.
Excellent points...even in '92 I recall vividly how the media was talking about us being a year away and that year was the Niners' right of passage to the championship (similar to how folks seemingly want to crown NE or even the Seahawks before this Sunday happened). I have an even deeper perspective on this as I lived in the SF Bay Area during the '92 season and was at that game in Candlestick.

I say we seize the moment and be greedy about it!?! Why not us given the landscape you've described? I say we step on the throat this year for SB #1 with this squad and then put a choke hold on it for years to come with an enhanced D going forward. LET'S DO THIS!!!
 

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If they're smart they'll let Romo play about a series mostly running the ball and then let Sanchez finish the game

That way somebody might give us a middle round pick for Romo without conditions
 

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Good post. It's very easy to feel the way you do given recent results. This team is different though. It's like watching that new boxer enter the ring and have win after win. As a fan you don't believe in that person until they win it all.

In this case the defense can improve in pass rush. What has negated that is our ability to stop the run. That will be big for us in the playoffs. Most bad defenses are bad all around. We have something to hang out hat on. I would like the pass rush to be addressed in the off season. Until then I want to see Thornton come off the edge more and even throw Irving out there as well.

I feel NY will be our biggest threat since they can score in offense and do enough on defense to make timely plays.

Atlanta will also be a threat and they're a bigger threat than SEA since they can move the ball. I just hope if we run into them we have a healthy secondary.


In the end I have my confidence because we can best anyone in the heart and soul of where battles are won and lost; the trenches.

Can't wait to see how this plays out.

Overall good post OP.

I wouldn't put too much stock in our rushing defense being a strength based on total yardage. Our opponents call run plays at the lowest rate in the league (32.4% of the time). Our opponents yards per carry is middle of the pack at 16th.
 

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If they're smart they'll let Romo play about a series mostly running the ball and then let Sanchez finish the game

That way somebody might give us a middle round pick for Romo without conditions

What? Holy.....

Why would you even consider giving away an elite NFL quarterback that you've already paid for a mid-round pick? He counts against the Dallas cap anyway. That conversation doesn't even BEGIN until you put a first-round pick on the table, period.

Dak is winning, but Romo is a far more polished QB right now. Dak would even tell you that. That's why Dallas is extending practices right now so Romo can work with the starters. He runs a much more complex version of the offense, so the other guys need to work with him, too, in case Dak gets hurt or falls off dramatically.

No, Romo stays unless someone wants to get silly with some draft picks. Otherwise, Dallas should just settle for the best quarterback situation in the NFL.
 

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We're the best team in the NFC this year, I don't have much doubt. But there are teams that can take us out, for sure. I'm not counting on anything more than a playoff berth right now.
At this point we certainly are but there's some football left to be played .

If we lose to Vikings , Giants game could be for division and #1 seed.

A 5th seed presents a completely different situation and expectations.
 

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What? Holy.....

Why would you even consider giving away an elite NFL quarterback that you've already paid for a mid-round pick? He counts against the Dallas cap anyway. That conversation doesn't even BEGIN until you put a first-round pick on the table, period.

Dak is winning, but Romo is a far more polished QB right now. Dak would even tell you that. That's why Dallas is extending practices right now so Romo can work with the starters. He runs a much more complex version of the offense, so the other guys need to work with him, too, in case Dak gets hurt or falls off dramatically.

No, Romo stays unless someone wants to get silly with some draft picks. Otherwise, Dallas should just settle for the best quarterback situation in the NFL.
My God you live in your own little Romo fantasy world don't you?

But by all means carry on.
 

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Learn an ounce of football and get back to us.
How many games has Tony started since 2014 by the way?

You been wrong about Romo ever since but hey you can always dream. Mr football knowledge. Lol
your only chance of seeing Romo with the Cowboys next year will be if the old man gets crazy and gives him the OC job when Linehan departs
 
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