MegaUpload Users Plan to Sue the FBI over Lost Files

[BrAinPaiNt]

All I can say is your knowledge is severely damaged when it comes to understanding how most people including businesses use the internet.

Most businesses would not know they need to do background checks on companies because they believe the internet is already policed for them.

Most average people look at the internet like this .. they need a site to store files so they hit Google and search for something like "where can i host a large file" .. yes, they type in searches just like that. They then typically click on the first search result they see that sounds even remotely like it provides what they need. They go there, the site looks legitimate so they upload their file and give out the URL to whoever needs it.

If your AC goes out, do you find a repair shop, then hire an investigator to perform a background check on the company, call the better business bureau and check with the police and fbi to see if there are any reasons why you should not use them? Of course not. You believe that since 1) the company is in business 2) the media has not run any negative stories about them 3) no friends have told you any negative stories about them and 4) the phone company allowed them to advertise in the phone book and keep their phone line that the company must be on the level.

If they in turn rob you when they come to your house, should your neighbors then call you stupid for not doing the steps above or simply knowing it?


So your real problem is that you despise the only plantiffs that have been named and promoted in the media? So you would be okay with it as long as it was organizations like "Last Chance Home of Orphan Children" or "Bubba's Bar and Drunk Videos"?

Yeah .. I'm just saying as well ..

#reality

I guess I figure businesses with SMART employees are considered SMART and do a good smart job concerning their business.

You think other wise.

The rest of your argument just seems like that you will go to any means to excuse stupidity in the workforce and for businesses.

 

[Reality]

You Sir are a pervert...exposing your child to such seediness. :

Of course anyone that knows of megaupload or any site similar has to be some kind of pirate themselves. I mean there is no way someone could have just heard of it from others. Nor is there any way a smart business could actually do any actual research of a company they are going to use to entrust the privacy of their own files to be hosted on.

Talk about being condescending and naive. Whoa.:laugh2:

So this is the internet version of talking loudly enough to someone very close to you in order to make sure someone else you want to take a shot at hears you standing at a distance. Got it! You're amazing .. I'm just saying ..

#reality

 

[Reality]

I guess I figure businesses with SMART employees are considered SMART and do a good smart job concerning their business.

You think other wise.

The rest of your argument just seems like that you will go to any means to excuse stupidity in the workforce and for businesses.

So any business that uses Google (they own Youtube after all) is filled with dumb people? How dare a company host their company picnic photos on Flickr too .. stupid employees.

#reality

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

So this is the internet version of talking loudly enough to someone very close to you in order to make sure someone else you want to take a shot at hears you standing at a distance. Got it! You're amazing .. I'm just saying ..

#reality

Yeah it is kinda of like telling someone that basically they are not a good parent...like you were doing. Nice jab at him that was uncalled for and the reason he quit the conversation with you.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

So any business that uses Google (they own Youtube after all) is filled with dumb people? How dare a company host their company picnic photos on Flickr too .. stupid employees.

#reality

Whatever you say big guy.

 

[tupperware]

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

:laugh2: :laugh2:

 

[YosemiteSam]

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[Reality]

Yeah it is kinda of like telling someone that basically they are not a good parent...like you were doing. Nice jab at him that was uncalled for and the reason he quit the conversation with you.

Actually I never questioned his parenting ability .. he is the one who used his 10 year old son as an example and I simply explained that a normal 10 year old would not know anything about pirate sites if he was either not exposed to it by his parents or allowed to be exposed to it through unsupervised internet usage. It was not a judgement of either of those decisions, it was simply a disqualification of his example as being that of the norm.

Of course I fully expect you to try spinning the conversation over to the "I'm being picked on" angle because it is because that is what one does when they cannot stand on the facts. Then again, that is your thing ..

#reality

 

[Reality]

Whatever you say big guy.

Hey look! You do know how to talk to someone directly! Good job!

#reality

 

[iceberg]

So any business that uses Google (they own Youtube after all) is filled with dumb people? How dare a company host their company picnic photos on Flickr too .. stupid employees.

#reality

i'd say so. google isn't a search engine in as much as forced advertising. google apps is like office 386 from like 1988 - old and not of very much use.

without getting into this too much, if i own a company, i own the site to put these on and don't go running to flicker. doesn't take much to setup something internally or host your own secure site if that's what you want.

joomla, vbulletin, ipb, wordpress, dot net nuke - simple to setup and what, $3.95 a month? hell you can host your company e-mail there and be in the cloud and cool! : )

it honestly doesn't take a whole lot of intelligence to set any of this up. that or i vastly underrate my own skills cause i've set them all up just fine.

modx messes with me but i'll play more later.

maybe i've been in the corporate world too long but i could/would NEVER trust internal information on a "public server". maybe it's just company picnic pics, or maybe it's customer information. regardless of what you do, you are responsible for this and have to protect your IP and customer info. also, if i placed the company pics up on a public site, i've got my own core set still. i don't copy 'em up and delete the originals unless i just don't care about it.

if said company thinks the internet is policed for them, they really don't belong on the internet anyway.

 

[Hoofbite]

Why is the entire argument centered around the business aspect.

What if it's just regular peeps who had stuff lost?

I think MU getting shut down raises another issue.

How far will this precedent extend?

 

[YosemiteSam]

Sam is chuckling big time right now... :laugh2:

 

[iceberg]

Why is the entire argument centered around the business aspect.

What if it's just regular peeps who had stuff lost?

I think MU getting shut down raises another issue.

How far will this precedent extend?

good point - it got sidetracked.

the government was flat out wrong to just shut it down. i would think they should have to reopen it but limit access like fileserv and others are doing - you can only access your own files.

then figure out "sharing" from there.

 

[YosemiteSam]

Why is the entire argument centered around the business aspect.

What if it's just regular peeps who had stuff lost?

I think MU getting shut down raises another issue.

How far will this precedent extend?

Probably because businesses generally would have the most to lose in this case. Though, anyone posting their data on a site like this without having another copy would be absolutely ignorant.

Posting private data unencrypted on a site like this would be absolutely ignorant as well.

 

[iceberg]

Probably because businesses generally would have the most to lose in this case. Though, anyone posting their data on a site like this without having another copy would be absolutely ignorant.

Posting private data unencrypted on a site like this would be absolutely ignorant as well.

both of the points i was making above for individual or business.

 

[YosemiteSam]

good point - it got sidetracked.

the government was flat out wrong to just shut it down. i would think they should have to reopen it but limit access like fileserv and others are doing - you can only access your own files.

then figure out "sharing" from there.

The government can shutdown a company like this, (if they can prove they themselves are intentionally contributing to criminal activity. If they do, they still must return all data to it's proper owners customers. The CANNOT search that data until they have a warrant for that specific customers data.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

Actually I never questioned his parenting ability .. he is the one who used his 10 year old son as an example and I simply explained that a normal 10 year old would not know anything about pirate sites if he was either not exposed to it by his parents or allowed to be exposed to it through unsupervised internet usage. It was not a judgement of either of those decisions, it was simply a disqualification of his example as being that of the norm.

Of course I fully expect you to try spinning the conversation over to the "I'm being picked on" angle because it is because that is what one does when they cannot stand on the facts. Then again, that is your thing ..

#reality

:laugh2: Look at the spin job you are doing here now. Did it ever occur to you why he decided to quit talking to you in that conversation? So whether it was your intent or not, it came accross that way and not just by me. Hmmm...maybe just maybe...you were wrong.

I am not claiming to be picked on. I think what you said was completely uncalled for and a personal jab on the guy no matter how you try to spin it.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

Hey look! You do know how to talk to someone directly! Good job!

#reality

Thanks big guy...does it make you feel all warm and happy.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

Why is the entire argument centered around the business aspect.

What if it's just regular peeps who had stuff lost?

I think MU getting shut down raises another issue.

How far will this precedent extend?

Probably because that was the main issue I was talking about and as I predicted some people came in and did not understand my point.