CanadianCowboysFan;2204502 said:
The fact Lewis failed three drug tests in 1988 and now won't discuss them because they "are in the past" is telling enough don't you think? If it were just one, then yeah ok maybe he accidentally took the wrong cough medicine, but three, come on.
We all know the US sprint program was dirty, no dirtier than any other country but dirty nonetheless. Leroy Burrell, Marion Jones, Tim Montgomery, Florence Griffiths-Joyner who came out of nowhere to win, then retired only to die from a disease we all know was steroid induced at a very young age), Justin Gatlin need I go on?
Johnson was stupid and got caught but that does not mean he was the only one. You know it and I know it.
I never stated black men could not swim, that is your interpretation of it and a straw man argument.
All you need to do is look at the medal winners and you will know that other than a handful of Japanese, Chinese and Koreans and the one black on your 4x100 relay, the swimming events were won by whites. It is not an all in inclusive sport like track (and yes I know the sprint finals were all black).
In any event, your argument proved my point, you only pointed to Europe, North America, South America (where they were white South Americans) and some asian countries competing in swimming. It is not all inclusive.
The point of your argument was that Lewis should not be considered as one of the Greatest Sprinters in the History of the Olympic Games. Your reasoning behind this is that he was dirty. If you can't produce proof of this, then your argument holds no validity. It's as simple as that. You make the point that every track and field team is dirty but your ready to proclaim Bolt as the greatest ever and no information on if he is dooping or not has even been produced. Your Biased and that's fine. Just so long as we are all clear here. Your Biased.
You never stated Black Men Can't Swim. You said Swimming is only important to White People. I did not prove your point for you. You shoot your own theory so full of holes by making that statement that you can not recover. That's the truth. The problem here is that we are not talking about who won gold medals in Swimming. We are talking about who is interested in Swimming. Those are two different things. The countries I mentioned are not all white and they are clearly interested in Swimming. Your statement is BS. That is the truth. This is something we do both know.
I basically mentioned every country in the world, other then Middle Eastern and African Countries. I am some what surprised that I would have to bring this to your attention but the majority of the people who live in the countries mentioned are not White. Shocker huh?
The fact of the matter is that each region of the world has there own qualifying groups and meets that are held for the specific purpose of producing athletes that can compete in the Olympic Games. So, if Japan, China, Korea, whomever else might be included in that world region, produces fast enough times, then they can send there swimmers to the games. If they can not, then they don't. The winners of these events are irrelivant. That was not the point of the discussion. The point of the discussion was if the world is interested in Swimming or not. Clearly they are or they would not be trying to qualify swimmers for the Games. There really is no arguement here.
As a side note, I was listening to Fox Sports this morning and they were say that Track and Field, over the past decade or so, has enjoyed a steady decline of interest World Wide. The attribute this to the fact that the sport is so riddled with drug enhancing issues that the World is just not as interested in it as it once was. Now, I'm not saying that's correct or incorrect but I am saying that somebody, other then posters on this board apparently feel as if Track and Field is not as popular as it once was. They also mentioned that Phelps and his performances are showing effects already. They were saying that pools, at least in this country, are over run with young children who are immulating Phelps. I don't know how you would come to the conclusion that this is, in fact, the case. Especially since it is the middle of summer and pools are busy this time of year anyway but, they did specifically make the point that interest in swimming is up and the specifically said that young children of all ethnic backrounds were interested. Not just White. I thought that was very interesting.
