Micah Parsons 4.39 40 time

[CowboyRoy]

Pro Day times.....always add .05 to .1 ....to get normalized combine time
Especially Penn St pro days...lol

You mean add time when it suits you?

 

[America's Cowboy]

I watched every game Parsons played at Penn State. I can watch the video and not agree with their conclusions.


Like I said. Parsons is a young developing player at LB. his instincts are good for somebody who only played Lb for two years with room to improve.


you can watch that video and decide that he will never improve if you want.

So you disagree with what your eyes are seeing on tape? Crystal clear Parsons lacks ability to make right decisions and reads.

HARD PASS.

 

[phildadon86]

I cant comment on his skill on pass coverage. As far as Jaylon having strengths he doesnt have any. Parsons is the real deal. Always in the backfield. Has instincts, makes plays and is incredible against the run. Doesnt get washed out.

Parsons much faster, tougher and has heart. He is everything that Jaylon is not.

He ranked second in run defense his last year playing. I dont know if that was in total or amongst LB's but either way its an upgrade lol

 

[JIMMYBUFFETT]

Micah Parsons has played 26 games in his career at LB. That's it. He was a 5 star recruit at DE and turned down offers at Alabama and Oklahoma to stay in state at Penn. He was the #1 ranked DE in the nation and 4th ranked overall player in his class. In only two seasons at a new position he amassed 192 tackles, 6.5 sacks, 19 tackles for loss, 6 forced fumbles, and 5 PBU. These #s came primarily from the Mike though he did also play outside. While coverage is certainly new to him, 539 coverage snaps at Penn State and zero touchdowns allowed suggests it's a role he could thrive in. In the end Parsons is no more than a projection like every other player coming into the NFL. It's interesting when people question his instincts, decisions, and reads from a Youtube clip but fail to realize that this kind of production at a totally new position is pretty much the definition of instinctual, good decision making, and proper reads. He was asked to move into a new position, immediately thrived in it, dominated it, and got better each season.

 

[HungryLion]

So you disagree with what your eyes are seeing on tape? Crystal clear Parsons lacks ability to make right decisions and reads.

HARD PASS.

Like I said. I’ve seen every game he has ever played. Your “tape” is a few minutes of selective plays where he struggled and omits all the plays he read the play perfectly and made a great play.

it’s the equivalent of watching a highlight or lowlight of a player and making your decision off that.

It also ignores what I’ve been saying about him being relatively raw at the Lb position and having room for growth and improvement with coaching and experience.


All of this is probably for naught as the cowboys probably won’t draft Parsons anyway.

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

Like I said. I’ve seen every game he has ever played. Your “tape” is a few minutes of selective plays where he struggled and omits all the plays he read the play perfectly and made a great play.

it’s the equivalent of watching a highlight or lowlight of a player and making your decision off that.

It also ignores what I’ve been saying about him being relatively raw at the Lb position and having room for growth and improvement with coaching and experience.


All of this is probably for naught as the cowboys probably won’t draft Parsons anyway.

Apparently, Parsons faked his way into 109 tackles, 14 TFL, 5 sacks, 5 PDs, 4 FF in 13 games, lol

 

[HungryLion]

Apparently, Parsons faked his way into 109 tackles, 14 TFL, 5 sacks, 5 PDs, 4 FF in 13 games, lol

True.

Parsons isn’t perfect. But if you watch him from year one to year two. His read and recognition improved quite a bit. There’s reason to believe it will continue to do so with more experience and coaching at the position.


Also I can pull up tape right now of Jaylon avoiding contact like a P**** and doing outright dumb **** even after he sees a ball carrier. Like tackling the wrong guy and taking horrific angles.

you won’t find much video of Parsons doing the same things.

 

[DFWJC]

You mean add time when it suits you?

No, just giving you the leveled playing field facts.
Combine times are .05-.10 slower than Pro Days
That is how it is...for the last decade...always
Who knows, maybe this year will be different.

I'm not here to argue...was actually complementing the time for an LB

 

[Bizwah]

Two things worry me about this player.

1. He missed a year of football. There's no telling where he will be developmentally. How has he progressed as a teammate? How much rust will he have accumulated? Will his head be swimming in TC? Will all that he has to get caught up on slow his development?

2. His character issues are well documented and disturbing. He sexually assaulted a teammate (allegedly). That has to be investigated. A player that is capable of that type of behavior can destroy a team.

If the Brass has thoroughly checked this out, and he comes back clean...then he should be in the discussion at 10.

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

True.

Parsons isn’t perfect. But if you watch him from year one to year two. His read and recognition improved quite a bit. There’s reason to believe it will continue to do so with more experience and coaching at the position.


Also I can pull up tape right now of Jaylon avoiding contact like a P**** and doing outright dumb **** even after he sees a ball carrier. Like tackling the wrong guy and taking horrific angles.

you won’t find much video of Parsons doing the same things.

Exactly, I’m not going to be hypercritical of a guy making mistakes at that point, less than 2 years playing the position, whereas Jaylon has played linebacker his entire high school, college, and professional career.

These guys are apples and oranges. I’m not sure why people try to keep forcing the comp.

 

[cnuball21]

Apparently, Parsons faked his way into 109 tackles, 14 TFL, 5 sacks, 5 PDs, 4 FF in 13 games, lol

I'll never understand how some of our fans view Parsons.

 

[kskboys]

Oh okay I thought I had read that he was used primarily as a DE in college. Was it more of a 3-4 OLB role? To me that's a DE but I don't watch a ton of Penn State football. The main thing to me is that when I draft in the top 10 I want a guy to step in and contribute from day one. If Parsons is changing positions from college to pro that scares me a bit. I do have to correct my typo on his career sack totals.. it was 6.5 not 1.5. Still not huge production for folks who were wondering aloud if he could be a DE. in the NFL. I dunno.. I want my top 10 pick to step in and be an impact player.. I have questions as to whether he fits the bill. But I am not opposed to taking him. I just don't know enough and am worried about the whole year off thing..

Scouts listed him as plug and play. Don't know.

 

[kskboys]

I understand your concern. I love Parsons. Wouldn’t complain if he was the pick.
But I would be more in favor of Surtain over him at this point.

but I just wanted to point out Parsons skill set and questions on his game in regards to the topic of the thread.

I do think Parsons will be a very good linebacker. He is going to be on the level of a Bobby Wagner or a Darius Leonard, maybe even a Like Keuchly type guy.

That’s how good I honestly think he will be.

Of course any player can bust though. Ya never know.

Parsons arrow is most definitely pointing up.

 

[America's Cowboy]

Like I said. I’ve seen every game he has ever played. Your “tape” is a few minutes of selective plays where he struggled and omits all the plays he read the play perfectly and made a great play.

it’s the equivalent of watching a highlight or lowlight of a player and making your decision off that.

It also ignores what I’ve been saying about him being relatively raw at the Lb position and having room for growth and improvement with coaching and experience.


All of this is probably for naught as the cowboys probably won’t draft Parsons anyway.

That's understandable if Parsons needs time to be better coached in order to improve at playing a new position (LB), but that should be more of a reason why not to take him with such a super costly and high pick. Top 10 picks are supposed to be experienced and ready to go at their respective position from Day 1, not require a year or two to be coached up.

 

[HungryLion]

That's understandable if Parsons needs time to be better coached in order to improve at playing a new position (LB), but that should be more of a reason why not to take him with such a super costly and high pick. Top 10 picks are supposed to be experienced and ready to go at their respective position from Day 1, not require a year or two to be coached up.

Idk. I think with Parsons talent it’s the reason he may last to 10 in the first place.

we will see though.

 

[Malhavoc]

Go read Devin White’s scouting report on NFL.com when he was coming out. Parsons is arguably the best defensive player in the draft. But IMO this team is going to take Surtain if he’s there. And furthermore I think Horn is their fall back plan. I would take Parsons but I’m happy to have Surtain or Horn

 

[kskboys]

The funny thing is how people are clamouring that Pitts is a game changer, but cannot see that Parsons is just as much of a game changer, maybe more.

 

[HungryLion]

The funny thing is how people are clamouring that Pitts is a game changer, but cannot see that Parsons is just as much of a game changer, maybe more.

I really think sitting out the last year changes things.

if Parsons played this past season and played at the same level he did the prior season. He may not even be there at 10 and he is getting far more attention. IMO

but I do think Parsons is going to be a cornerstone player.

I understand people don’t think off ball LB is a “premium position”.

but let’s just say you have a crystal ball. And the crystal ball tells you that Parsons will be as impactful on the defense as Bobby Wagner or Luke Keuchly.

do you take him at 10? I think you do without a split second hesitation.

 

[kskboys]

I really think sitting out the last year changes things.

if Parsons played this past season and played at the same level he did the prior season. He may not even be there at 10 and he is getting far more attention. IMO

but I do think Parsons is going to be a cornerstone player.

I understand people don’t think off ball LB is a “premium position”.

but let’s just say you have a crystal ball. And the crystal ball tells you that Parsons will be as impactful on the defense as Bobby Wagner or Luke Keuchly.

do you take him at 10? I think you do without a split second hesitation.

Since there are no S's or DT's worth this pick, MLB is next. And he's a freak of a player, looks like generational talent.

The takes on him on this board are very strange.

 

[ChuckA1]

I've read many comments on here stating Jaylon Smith has no heart. I don't think that's fair at all. Any player that returns from an injury like he suffered has heart. He may just lack the ability to play in the Cowboys' system. And, I believe Parsons will be a better MLB than Jaylon Smith.