Micah Parsons - Next Man Up!

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Parsons job is to cause havoc. The Cowboys drafted him to wreck offenses. One day he might develop into a 3 down linebacker but for this team this season, his job is to see ball get ball. Have you watched Jabril? He will be a nickel linebacker at the beginning. There is a reason he was a 4th round pick. Jabril is not good against the run.
sorry hes 3 down LB and like all rooks will be worked in on snap count but once he gets the defense and matches the NFL speed etc he will be 3 down back on most alignments that call for it..

yes Cox not great against the run but good enough but he can rush the passer and had superior cover skills ie specialist vs full time 3 down back like Cox..
 

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Yep. If LVE is healthy, I see him and Parsons playing 3 downs while Smith is the rush specialist. But maybe I'm wrong. They didn't pick up LVE's option so maybe they view Smith as more long term.
Smith is not a pass rushing specialist. I expect his snaps to be limited. That drop foot is a problem. LVE is in trouble because he cannot stay healthy. I guess people love LVE so much they forget to watch how he played last season. His snaps were limited when he was healthy. On passing downs the Cowboys took him off the field and not Jaylon. I suspect on third downs to see Parsons/Neal as the linebackers. Jaylon/LVE are gone after this season.
 

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sorry hes 3 down LB and like all rooks will be worked in on snap count but once he gets the defense and matches the NFL speed etc he will be 3 down back on most alignments that call for it..

yes Cox not great against the run but good enough but he can rush the passer and had superior cover skills ie specialist vs full time 3 down back like Cox..
I don’t understand your argument. We both agree this will be Parsons defense. I think the Cowboys will let him attack at the beginning. That’s all.
 

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Smith is not a pass rushing specialist. I expect his snaps to be limited. That drop foot is a problem. LVE is in trouble because he cannot stay healthy. I guess people love LVE so much they forget to watch how he played last season. His snaps were limited when he was healthy. On passing downs the Cowboys took him off the field and not Jaylon. I suspect on third downs to see Parsons/Neal as the linebackers. Jaylon/LVE are gone after this season.

I would think Parsons and Neal on third downs as well, with Cox possibly mixed in there as well. It will be interesting to see how exactly we mix and match the linebackers. I wouldn't dismiss LVE/Smith being on the team next year. Neal will be gone and we don't know if Cox will develop into more than a passing down replacement. I think the future of both LVE and Smith depends a lot on how they play this season.
 

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I would think Parsons and Neal on third downs as well, with Cox possibly mixed in there as well. It will be interesting to see how exactly we mix and match the linebackers. I wouldn't dismiss LVE/Smith being on the team next year. Neal will be gone and we don't know if Cox will develop into more than a passing down replacement. I think the future of both LVE and Smith depends a lot on how they play this season.
If the Cowboys had planned to keep Jaylon/LVE past 2021 they would not have drafted over them or brought in Neal to play linebacker. The Cowboys did not pick up LVE 5th year option and can save more then 9 million by making Jaylon a June 1st designation after the 2021 season. That is over 18 million in cap savings for next season, Jaylon/LVE are gone even if by some miracle they return to their 2018 form. You cannot overcome LVE’s neck or Jaylon’s knee to pay them all that cap money.
 

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If the Cowboys had planned to keep Jaylon/LVE past 2021 they would not have drafted over them or brought in Neal to play linebacker. The Cowboys did not pick up LVE 5th year option and can save more then 9 million by making Jaylon a June 1st designation after the 2021 season. That is over 18 million in cap savings for next season, Jaylon/LVE are gone even if by some miracle they return to their 2018 form. You cannot overcome LVE’s neck or Jaylon’s knee to pay them all that cap money.

Neal is a one-year rental. We need three starting linebackers. We drafted one sure starter and a fourth-rounder.

The team already said not doing the fifth-year option was because of the price (which it is smart not to pay for a player coming off two injury-plagued seasons), but also said it doesn't mean they don't want to keep LVE. I think this season will determine if that's the case and what it should offer him if it does decide to keep him. It also will depend on how the other linebackers play. If Cox shows starter ability, then there's no reason to pay big money for LVE, unless Jaylon proves he's not worth what he's set to be paid.

I don't see any way Dallas lets both of them walk next season. If we do, our only real linebackers are Parsons and Cox, and it's possible Cox will need more than one year to develop into a complete linebacker instead of a coverage specialist.
 

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um Parson is 3 down LB not rush specialist they will use him all over the defense ..dont get that twisted he was taken 12th overall because he has 3 down ability..

Now Jabril Cox is a hybrid LB/SS will be more of rush type or cover specialist..
Parsons is probably a better d end than half the d ends on the team
 

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Neal is a one-year rental. We need three starting linebackers. We drafted one sure starter and a fourth-rounder.

The team already said not doing the fifth-year option was because of the price (which it is smart not to pay for a player coming off two injury-plagued seasons), but also said it doesn't mean they don't want to keep LVE. I think this season will determine if that's the case and what it should offer him if it does decide to keep him. It also will depend on how the other linebackers play. If Cox shows starter ability, then there's no reason to pay big money for LVE, unless Jaylon proves he's not worth what he's set to be paid.

I don't see any way Dallas lets both of them walk next season. If we do, our only real linebackers are Parsons and Cox, and it's possible Cox will need more than one year to develop into a complete linebacker instead of a coverage specialist.
Come on Gimme you know that is the Joneses talk out of their butts. They gave LVE/Jaylon two seasons to perform and they failed miserably. If by some miracle LVE stays healthy and is the teams best linebacker, he will not take less money then what Jaylon got. I can’t see them keeping Jaylon unless he takes a major pay cut. The Cowboys can draft a linebacker like Cox again in the middle rounds next season or bring in another 4 million dollar free agent.
 

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Come on Gimme you know that is the Joneses talk out of their butts. They gave LVE/Jaylon two seasons to perform and they failed miserably. If by some miracle LVE stays healthy and is the teams best linebacker, he will not take less money then what Jaylon got. I can’t see them keeping Jaylon unless he takes a major pay cut. The Cowboys can draft a linebacker like Cox again in the middle rounds next season or bring in another 4 million dollar free agent.

Dallas' method is to pay their own and keep their own if they believe the player is worth what he's seeking. If the Cowboys do not, then their next step is generally to get a cheap starter to fill in so that it doesn't have to go into the draft with an absolute need (they didn't do that at corner this year, though).

If LVE proves worth it, the Cowboys will try to re-sign him unless they feel they have his replacement in hand in Cox, like they did when they let Byron Jones go both because his turnover production wasn't worth the asking price and according to him, they said they felt OK about the players they had to replace him. (Then, they drafted a corner in the second round.)

Jaylon Smith may fall into the category of Tyrone Crawford, overpaid but valued, depending on his level of play. We really don't want to go into the draft looking to draft another starting linebacker in the first or second round. Thinking we can get a sure starter in the middle rounds is unrealistic. Maybe we can get a starter in FA, but for what we pay, it won't be a bottom-of-the-barrel starter.

I see our starters next year being Parsons, Smith and Cox, but we'll see what happens with Cox and LVE this year. If Smith plays poorly and LVE plays well, I could also see us cutting Smith and using at least some of the money to retain LVE. However, I do think it's possible LVE will get Murray'd, where even if he has an outstanding year, we are only willing to offer so much to keep him because of the injury concerns.
 

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Parsons is probably a better d end than half the d ends on the team

Don't think we want him with his hand on the ground taking on OTs straight-up, though. I think we want him rushing strictly from linebacker spots where he can use his speed to shoot through or around the edge into the backfield.
 

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Thanks Sean Lee for your service, now we're moving on.
 

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Parsons job is to cause havoc. The Cowboys drafted him to wreck offenses. One day he might develop into a 3 down linebacker but for this team this season, his job is to see ball get ball. Have you watched Jabril? He will be a nickel linebacker at the beginning. There is a reason he was a 4th round pick. Jabril is not good against the run.
Good thing no one runs the ball anymore lol.

I think they will put together some packages to take advantage of Parsons rush ability.

If we look at edge depth, we may very well need to.
 

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I agree with this overall, except for a transcendent corner like Revis. Revis single handedly shut down one side of the field.
I remember the pundits saying he didn't have enough game speed to keep up with faster receivers.

Nevertheless, I didn't see anyone in this draft that was on tape a "game changing" corner. I personally liked Joseph on tape more than the rest of the bunch.
 

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I remember the pundits saying he didn't have enough game speed to keep up with faster receivers.

Nevertheless, I didn't see anyone in this draft that was on tape a "game changing" corner. I personally liked Joseph on tape more than the rest of the bunch.

Had Joseph not had off the field issues, I think he would have been taken over Farley imo.
 

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Don't think we want him with his hand on the ground taking on OTs straight-up, though. I think we want him rushing strictly from linebacker spots where he can use his speed to shoot through or around the edge into the backfield.
Yes, we want him to be a heat seeking missile and blowing up the ball carrier. Just roam and destroy.
 

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I've seen very recent conjecture concerning the probability of adding more LB(s) to the 2022 NFL draft. The resurgence of serving our LB corps isn't over yet by a longshot. Much depends upon how both LVE and Jaylon Smith perform this year. It's entirely possible one or both could be dismissed by the time 2022 rolls around. In the meantime, they're likely to retained, pending additional time for them to make a valid recovery. Of course, that's truly assuming either or both of them is legitimately capable of doing so. I think it's fair to say their careers with Dallas are hanging in the balance in 2021.
 
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