Micah's number going up?

[Creeper]

https://sports.yahoo.com/article/nah-next-micah-parsons-refused-033706502.html

According to this article Jerry's tactic of waiting to make deals with his players is going to cost him even more than we thought. I thought the best time to sign Parsons was back in February or March. He might have gotten Micah for $37 million back then. But after Myles Garrett's deal the number sounded more like $40 million or $41 million. Now, if this report is true, it might be higher than that.

Ignoring Micah's ability on the field and what we think he might be worth, to me the lunacy of Jerry's tactics is the real story. It is amazing to me how poorly Jerry manages his money with regard to the Dallas Cowboys. This is a guy who won't pay for a free agent DT but is willing to overpay Dak and Micah for reasons I can't understand.

 

[Aerolithe_Lion]

 

[blueblood70]

https://sports.yahoo.com/article/nah-next-micah-parsons-refused-033706502.html

According to this article Jerry's tactic of waiting to make deals with his players is going to cost him even more than we thought. I thought the best time to sign Parsons was back in February or March. He might have gotten Micah for $37 million back then. But after Myles Garrett's deal the number sounded more like $40 million or $41 million. Now, if this report is true, it might be higher than that.

Ignoring Micah's ability on the field and what we think he might be worth, to me the lunacy of Jerry's tactics is the real story. It is amazing to me how poorly Jerry manages his money with regard to the Dallas Cowboys. This is a guy who won't pay for a free agent DT but is willing to overpay Dak and Micah for reasons I can't understand.

You can keep guessing and inferring what you think he might have taken, and you'd be very wrong, He was already in the 39 to 40 million category this whole entire time... I guarantee he wanted to be higher paid than CD lamb who's making like 39.5 Whatever his deal is it's like an odd number but other than Prescott he wanted to be the highest paid player on this team if you think otherwise then you're buying into the hype that the player and agent aren't playing games that are holding all this up....

BTW Don't Believe any of that lie that he said he didn't need to be the highest paid skill player in the league that he didn't need to have 40 million, did you really believe that??​

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because now he wants to be the highest paid skilled player in the league, meaning he was never taking less, Stop reading into things so you could try to twist it back into another hate Jerry post.​

Here's the deal,

the man's under contract and he's going to play this year we went through this last year with Lamb and Dak and they got signed every year we talk about this they ALL get signed!!!

who cares how much money they make it doesn't come out of our pockets and the Cowboys have plenty of cap money by the way, and they'll have more when they sign him and are they spending it??

the answer's no, don't respond because it's rhetorical, you all are worrying about the salary cap acting like if they had more money, they would spend it and Jerry's not spending it....

Lastly,

you post way too much about contracts, like this stuff is somehow personal to you, Get over it ,All three parties are a big issue NOT JUST JERRT, We're getting big deals done all the other ones got done pretty easily, but the guys that are superstars in this league do this and unless they get what they want they'll just keep waiting, the agents will keep stretching it out, and then they're going to make fans pick sides on who's at fault,

but in my opinion who cares you post too much about Prescott salaries and all that other non-sense, who cares it's nothing to do with football jerry wouldn't spend the extra money anyway...

 

[blueblood70]

https://sports.yahoo.com/article/nah-next-micah-parsons-refused-033706502.html

According to this article Jerry's tactic of waiting to make deals with his players is going to cost him even more than we thought. I thought the best time to sign Parsons was back in February or March. He might have gotten Micah for $37 million back then. But after Myles Garrett's deal the number sounded more like $40 million or $41 million. Now, if this report is true, it might be higher than that.

Ignoring Micah's ability on the field and what we think he might be worth, to me the lunacy of Jerry's tactics is the real story. It is amazing to me how poorly Jerry manages his money with regard to the Dallas Cowboys. This is a guy who won't pay for a free agent DT but is willing to overpay Dak and Micah for reasons I can't understand.

Did Garrett sign for 37 million Nope another rhetorical question let's stop the nonsense this money was being pushed up and all these guys who think they're in the same category like TJ Watt is now going to demand this kind of money how is this just Jerry they're all going to pay their defensive end similar money Why didn't these other teams get ahead of it Why didn't they give Garrett money last year but they gave him his money long before Parsons right and he got how much that means that's the new rate unless a player wants to take a disk that was going to be the money it was going to be in the 40 million no matter what....

The market is the market you either pay the guy or you let him walk that's what you have the decision to make and you worry too much about money the cap this is not a fan problem like you said Jerry's not going to spend it anyway so why talk about it it's just a non issue we just need to get the football season and talk about football because contracts mean squat to me I really don't care what they make jerry decided to do it and by the way if you keep thinking this is all Jerry's way and the agent player themselves have nothing to do with this then you are delusional and you're being full by public hate on Jerry to get on that train that he's doing this I don't remember Jerry owning Garrett's contract and Garrett's making it over 40 million that's hilarious another player already is making that that got paid earlier in the offseason and you think Parsons would have took less garrett didn't take less TJ is not going to take $37 million is he let's sit back and wait i'm going to change why didn't Pittsburgh pay him if that's what the rate would have been had they paid him early or why didn't they pay him $37 million months ago..


Seriously when you post use common sense because when you say Parsons would take 37 million you have no idea what that number would have been but I do because that's around the time Garrett signed he didn't sign for $37 million he threatened to leave the team he wanted a trade they appeased him by giving him record amounts of money and they're going to have to appease Parsons in the same zip code It's in the same money area and they will have to do the same with TJ Watt or you have to release the player trade him that's the two options you have you..

There are many contracts that get signed around the NFL and yes with Jerry like Oza and Diggs and many too many to list that was really easy and nothing created any of this drama this drama's being created because this is the level of player you're going to deal with their egos they're going to want this kind of money and if they don't get it right away their agents will have them drag it out we have to.


That's the truth I mean look around Even CD lamb eventually decided to take the second wide receiver money but he wanted close to 40 million and he got it... Jerry didn't pay Justin Jefferson $40 million jerry didn't pay recently who by the way Cincinnati didn't pay either of their two receivers early and now they're paying big time money Jerry doesn't run those teams and they also are paying players like this market record setting money those players were never going to take less Chase actually rejected many fair offers What goes behind closed doors not released to the public..

Seriously, I'm just ranting here but there's a lot of players that have held out and pushed for market money and they get it or close to it jerry's not the only 1 doing this....

 

[jazzcat22]

Why is it Jerry's fault. It could be Micah and his agent refusing to deal and sign back then.
We have no idea he would have signed for less back then.
How do we know Jerry did not offer $38 million, and his agent said, no, $42 million.

 

[blueblood70]

Why is it Jerry's fault. It could be Micah and his agent refusing to deal and sign back then.
We have no idea he would have signed for less back then.
How do we know Jerry did not offer $38 million, and his agent said, no, $42 million.

We don't that's the thing everybody wants to take a side but I say this I don't have a side I can carry less what they get how much they get paid or how much it affects the cap we have no real interest except for football we should be talking about football..

That was my long reply but why didn't Garrett who signed back then early who threatened a trade why didn't he take 37 million if that was the number If he didn't take under 40 why would Parsons They say that the longer this goes on as if Jerry's dragging out on purpose Well here we are but garrett signed a couple of months ago..

I mean if March 9th it was 40 million how much earlier are we gonna go back and think that Parsons and his agent didn't know this was coming that TJY and others the contracts were coming up... In the world would they sign for 37 million back in March because we're worried now, that it's July, But the number was 40 on March 9th. lmao.

I would love to hear from these players and agents that literally under a true serum say that they would have if offered took $37 million in February before Garrett's contract show me I mean I want to see it I want to hear it all this guessing is just wasted energy it's not our problem they're going to make what they make and contracts should not concern fans at all..

So, let's stop acting like the agent and the player themselves are not part of the problem; jamar Chase, T Higgins, Brandon AIuke and Garrett, just to name a few, they've all done this, right now there's a running back is it the Buffalo Bills guy is holding out because he wants Saquon type money, well why didn't they just pay him 15 million in February? so didn't have to worry about paying 19-20 million, I don't get it this how happens all over the NFL and yet somehow, it's on jerry all kinds of players who are demanding money or threaten to hold out and they didn't they didn't get signed early.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Whatever TJ Watt signs Micah will sign for a million more.

 

[Bobhaze]

Why is it Jerry's fault. It could be Micah and his agent refusing to deal and sign back then.
We have no idea he would have signed for less back then.
How do we know Jerry did not offer $38 million, and his agent said, no, $42 million.

Jazz, here’s something to think about. From what I’ve read about many nfl players who have been in Micah’s position now, they want to sign NOW for fair market price.

Why? Because any player in that position could get hurt and lose millions in value. Waiting makes no sense for either party.

 

[blueblood70]

Jazz, here’s something to think about. From what I’ve read about many nfl players who have been in Micah’s position now, they want to sign NOW for fair market price.

Why? Because any player in that position could get hurt and lose millions in value. Waiting makes no sense for either party.

That doesn't mean that he wasnt offered a deal and turned it down, nobody knows, show me the proof, Show me why other teams have let some of their other players like right now it was Garrett and now it's TJ Watt, but there are more players that have heard turn down early contract offers like chase and Higgens, and kept waiting and waiting and they got bigger deals the next offseason..

Agents have a pretty good idea what players are coming up due for contracts that are similar to some of their other players that they represent, and they know better than to take $5 million less just because it's offers comfort in case of injury... I'm sure they're looking 5 years down the road and they are not going to allow some of their talent to take that much less..

That used to how it was, always like that, players would take top five money at their position and they would be happy with it regardless of how they felt in the top five like Trayvon Diggs he didn't give Jerry a hard time, he got a very fair deal, Up until recently it was still top five even though he got signed three years ago..​

Most players and agents are reasonable,

but there are a few who think they have elite generational athletes and that could demand anything and in those circumstances they're going to play hardball..​

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It happens other places besides the Cowboys how do you think Justin Jefferson got paid all that money and then it followed with Chase the following off season chase didn't accept anything he was being offered lamb took somewhere right in the middle, but in some ways even though it wasn't really much Jerry didn't have to overpay and beat Jefferson contract to get land in that case I'd say he kind of won...​

We're all giving opinions here because you have no proof of what's been discussed or offered I don't care who you get your information from who you think is locked in with the Star and know things they're not Privy to privileged conversations about offers on the phone or an email or in person whether it was official or not numbers are being thrown around all the time and we have no idea what those are and never will..​

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But here's something to think about some players and agents are not going to take less until they have to But don't tell me you don't think Parsons wanted to be the highest paid skill player on the Dallas Cowboys let alone in the league that's what's changed some players will still take top five positional money and they'll be very happy with it and others are using this hole I want to be the highest paid skill player in the league I mean press Scotts obviously are highest paid player but I guarantee Parsons wanted to be paid more than Lamb and he wasn't going to take less it's the ego thing...​

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And you can say I'm wrong, and that's a possibility, but I can also say I'm right because that's also as much a possibility,​

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some players with this whole I need to be the highest paid skill player now and are not reasonable taking top five money asking for a little more bonus a little more guarantees no they want to be the highest paid in the league outside of the highest paid quarterback money that's just making it tougher IMHO..​

 

[blueblood70]

Jazz, here’s something to think about. From what I’ve read about many nfl players who have been in Micah’s position now, they want to sign NOW for fair market price.

Why? Because any player in that position could get hurt and lose millions in value. Waiting makes no sense for either party.

Explain to me then and I may be wrong about this because I'm not going to look it up but I know for a fact Prescott played on a franchise tag snapped his ankle off and still got a record deal but I also believe Terrence Steele also got a deal after he got hurt There is some precedent that been set here that even if you get hurt if you're really good, Jerry will still pay you..

In most cases your statement might be true but in other cases it's not players if you're really good you're going to get paid regardless you'll get drafted top 10 regardless of a major injury it just depends on your status how teams feel about you...

Honestly nobody knows what's really going on here with some of these players some of them sign reasonable money and they sign quick some of the ones are playing hardball it takes a while but don't be only blaming Jerry agents and players have as much to blame and I guarantee he wanted more money than Lamb so he was not signing for less than 40 million I believe Lambs contract Was it something like thirty nine point five or something like that.. Whatever it was and I'm just using common sense I believe Parsons would wanted to be the 2nd highest paid player on this team outside of Prescott and that means he was always going to be in the 40 million range And his agent wasn't going to allow him to sign for less...

 

[nobody]

Jazz, here’s something to think about. From what I’ve read about many nfl players who have been in Micah’s position now, they want to sign NOW for fair market price.

Why? Because any player in that position could get hurt and lose millions in value. Waiting makes no sense for either party.

But @jazzcat22's point stands. We just don't know what has already been offered and gone on behind closed doors. There's no way to tell.

 

[Cowfan75Lives]

You know what end game is. Micah was always going to be the 2nd highest paid player in the NFL, and always here. Jerry boasts that we have the highest paid player, as if that equates to winning. Now we'll have first and second.

 

[Pass2Run]

If his price goes up any more, let him sit out for a few games.

 

[Pass2Run]

You know what end game is. Micah was always going to be the 2nd highest paid player in the NFL, and always here. Jerry boasts that we have the highest paid player, as if that equates to winning. Now we'll have first and second.

Nah. Micah hasn't earned being the 2nd highest. He's a one trick pony.

 

[fivetwos]

Folks, don’t stress over this. It doesn’t matter.

Don’t go thinking another few million of cap room is going to change the team. It won’t. They will either roll it over or squander it.

 

[jazzcat22]

Jazz, here’s something to think about. From what I’ve read about many nfl players who have been in Micah’s position now, they want to sign NOW for fair market price.

Why? Because any player in that position could get hurt and lose millions in value. Waiting makes no sense for either party.

Right, I agree with that premise. But we still do not know all the internal going ons with them.
Most just want to use it as a means to bag on Jerry. Because they think it is the cool thing to do.

I do not like Jerry as the GM either. But I am not going to use everything, to hate on him. I can't do anything about it, so not going to allow it to consume me.

 

[ShortRound]

Whatever TJ Watt signs Micah will sign for a million more.

 

[blueblood70]

If his price goes up any more, let him sit out for a few games.

I'm starting to agree with that If it goes into the regular season, he threatens to hold out real games, let him,

offer him 40 million in public, guarantee 80% of the contract, give him big upfront money, if he refuses it ,then franchise tag him and if somebody wants to offer up enough compensation let him walk...

FTag, I'm looking at the franchise tag right now for this year for a defensive end I'm guessing that means top 5 money, 22.5 million dollars, I imagine next year it might be 25 million...


although looking at some of the guys in his talent range, that average is about 31 million...

I'm still wanting him here but I'm standing hard at 40 million you can negotiate terms you know guarantees bonus money all that kind of language in the contract but I'm not paying him more than 40 million At one some point Jerry needs to make a stand with one of these players I mean he did OK with Lamb given the fact that it's top 3 but not record market setting..

Again I'm a fan of persons I want them here but I think 40 million that's his cap I don't remember him ever being close to having the sack record or double digit sacks like 20 or more and a lot of these guys have had that some of them more than once we're talking about TJ why people post the pictures why should he get paid more than TJ Watt I think TJ Watt might be a more complete player but still I'm holding it 40..
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[FanofJerry]

The whole duality thing is stupid and played out to me...

But I wish posters on this board would address these situations as if a duality is taking place...because all signs point to a duality...

I'm sure posters and original thread starter don't want to play that game because it's boring and against the narrative...

 

[FVSTONE]

Whatever TJ Watt signs Micah will sign for a million more.

Trade Parsons for Watts, it's a win win for both teams.