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I've noticed in several of the threads about potential safeties over the last few days that there seems to be a fairly substantial amount of support for Michael Hamlin. I'm not doubting the guy; I was just curious where this support is coming from.

I mean he was drafted in something like the 6th round last year, why is everybody so hopeful that he'll turn into a starter or major contributor?

In other words, what have I missed on this guy?
 
Illini88228;3300845 said:
I've noticed in several of the threads about potential safeties over the last few days that there seems to be a fairly substantial amount of support for Michael Hamlin. I'm not doubting the guy; I was just curious where this support is coming from.

I mean he was drafted in something like the 6th round last year, why is everybody so hopeful that he'll turn into a starter or major contributor?

In other words, what have I missed on this guy?

You haven't missed much, since he spent most of last season out injured.
 
he was good in college and showed promise that he could be a starter one day in this league
 
casmith07;3300857 said:
You haven't missed much, since he spent most of last season out injured.

I'm just wondering what makes people so optimistic about him. I'm not doubting the guy. I just thought maybe he was some big time college player that slipped inexplicably or something. It just seems odd that a guy drafted in a round in which most players don't become starters would have such solid support.

Edit: sm0kie13's answer makes sense. Wasn't there when I started my response.
 
Illini88228;3300866 said:
I'm just wondering what makes people so optimistic about him. I'm not doubting the guy. I just thought maybe he was some big time college player that slipped inexplicably or something. It just seems odd that a guy drafted in a round in which most players don't become starters would have such solid support.

People are optimistic about him because Ken Hamlin is the worst safety in the NFL - haven't you heard?

In all seriousness, it goes with what sm0kie said above. He's shown some promise that he could be a starter at the S position in the league one day, but he's not there yet, obviously.
 
Selected: Fifth round, 166th overall
Size: 6-2, 214
School: Clemson

POSITIVES
The Cowboys need more intelligent, high-character players, and they got one in Hamlin. His teammates voted him a permanent captain as a junior at Clemson, where he started four seasons. He is a vocal leader who studies hard and excels at the mental aspect of playing safety, including reading the quarterback's eyes and making sure his teammates are in the proper alignment. He's a former high school wide receiver with good ball skills (14 career interceptions). He times his jumps well, fights for the ball in traffic and has strong, sure hands. He has good size and is a reliable tackler who doesn't hesitate to get involved against the run.

NEGATIVES
Hamlin, who primarily played zone coverage at Clemson, might not be able to play man coverage against NFL receivers and some tight ends. He doesn't have great speed (4.62 40). There are also concerns about his hip fluidity and ability to change directions. While Hamlin doesn't shy away from contact, he isn't a big hitter or intimidating presence in the middle of the field.

COWBOY FIT
Hamlin, who will be a strong safety, could become the first member of this draft class to crack the starting lineup. He would have to beat out Gerald Sensabaugh, who started in Jacksonville before signing a one-year deal with the Cowboys, but that should be an interesting training camp competition. He's expected to immediately contribute on special teams, especially the kickoff and punt coverage units.

SECONDARY COACH DAVE CAMPO
"Smart. He gets everybody lined up and has good ball skills. ... He's a physical guy. He'll be an excellent special teams player. Other than Sensabaugh, we don't have really a true strong safety body ready to go. We've got some guys that are playing the position, but he's a physical strong safety type of guy. He can play in the box and he can play off. ... Down the road, hopefully he's going to be a really good player. Right now, he gives us a big upside, because he's smart, he can learn the defense, he's physical, he can be a good special teams player. There's a lot of positives with him. ... I think he can (play man coverage). He's got work to do, but he hasn't covered a lot of guys one-on-one. He has to learn to do that. That's why we're having him go one-on-one out here. He was a center fielder, a guy who would run around and go get the ball. He's been more of a ballhawk-type guy, which is what we want. The cover part of it will take care of himself. We'll get that going. ... He's a good tackler. He should be fine there. He's going to get you on the ground. He's going to hit you. He'll stick his nose there. He's big and he's got good strength. He's a typical safety in my mind."

SCOUTING REPORTS
Scouts, Inc. (ESPN Insider)

DraftCountdown.com

NFL Draft Scout (CBSSports.com)
 
I'm assuming he showed this promise in preseason or tc?

I guess I'm just not astute enough to notice the quality of the safeties. I always just kind of go with the offensive guard rating system: if you don't hear their names they must be doing at least okay.
 
Illini88228;3300881 said:
I guess this is why he lasted until the fifth round?

most likely, i want to say also that he might have had an injury but cant remember so could be wrong
 
There was a buzz about him early in training camp last year. He was making plays every practice.
 
sm0kie13;3300884 said:
most likely, i want to say also that he might have had an injury but cant remember so could be wrong

He did. Knee problems.
 
Thanks to everyone for enlightening me a little. Hopefully he turns out to be a good player for the team.
 
I like him but then again, I was ecstatic when we drafted Pat Watkins because I thought he'd be great at free safety for us.
 
Chief;3300889 said:
There was a buzz about him early in training camp last year. He was making plays every practice.

That was indeed the word. Supposedly picked up the defense pretty fast. It's too bad he got injured and missed so much time.
 
Illini88228;3300845 said:
I've noticed in several of the threads about potential safeties over the last few days that there seems to be a fairly substantial amount of support for Michael Hamlin. I'm not doubting the guy; I was just curious where this support is coming from.

I mean he was drafted in something like the 6th round last year, why is everybody so hopeful that he'll turn into a starter or major contributor?

In other words, what have I missed on this guy?

Hamlin was projected to go higher (3-4th Round), where we got him in the draft was actually great value. During camps and all that stuff that means almost nothing, Hamlin was in the news wire everyday for making great plays on the ball, including several picks, etc so there was hope he'd contribute this year.

Then he got hurt.

The idea that being optimistic about Mike Hamlin is a bad thing is quite frankly, stupid. He's on the roster and has showed some promise for the position, nothing wrong with rooting for the guy.
 
Chief;3300889 said:
There was a buzz about him early in training camp last year. He was making plays every practice.
I forget who it was, but someone posted a picture of him going up high to tip a ball and he was so far up there it was mind blowing. I wish I knew who it was, I would find the image.
 
Nick Eatman went up to the safety coach during the second round after the Cowboys missed out on some of the safeties and the coach told him then that the guy that they wanted was still available, Hamlin.
 
Illini88228;3300866 said:
I'm just wondering what makes people so optimistic about him. I'm not doubting the guy. I just thought maybe he was some big time college player that slipped inexplicably or something. It just seems odd that a guy drafted in a round in which most players don't become starters would have such solid support.

Edit: sm0kie13's answer makes sense. Wasn't there when I started my response.

Have you heard of Ratliff 7th round pick?
 
Hostile;3301031 said:
I forget who it was, but someone posted a picture of him going up high to tip a ball and he was so far up there it was mind blowing. I wish I knew who it was, I would find the image.

That pic was Patrick Watkins, he mistook it for Hamlin. But said that he saw Hamlin get up there too.

speedkilz88;3301042 said:
Nick Eatman went up to the safety coach during the second round after the Cowboys missed out on some of the safeties and the coach told him then that the guy that they wanted was still available, Hamlin.

Brett Maxie?
 
speedkilz88;3301042 said:
Nick Eatman went up to the safety coach during the second round after the Cowboys missed out on some of the safeties and the coach told him then that the guy that they wanted was still available, Hamlin.
Is that really true?
 

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